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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

Am I the only one who finds “let me fix that for you” terribly annoying?

Not as annoying as perpetuating racism and harming people with ignorance though, is it?

You get more bees with honey.
People aren’t going to listen and learn when you write that. Much nicer ways to say it that will have a bigger impact than your self righteousness.

Couldn’t agree more. Saying slave is not perpetuating anything. Maybe in the mind of a progressive extremist it is.

+1. There is no difference between using the noun "slave" or the descriptive ohrase "enslaved person". none

Op and I don't really want to see this thread derailed further, but there is a difference. Slave is dehumanizing, while enslaved person focuses more on their humanity. The current appropriate term is enslaved person. We change terms all the time- why is this so bothersome to some?

Nobody appointed you the arbiter of which term is “currently appropriate.” Your claim is silly.

Be open to learning: https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2023/12/14/1219329636/slave-or-enslaved

It is a giant leap from letting someone know that it is more sensitive to say “enslaved person” instead of defining a person as a slave to then saying that using the word slave is racism. Have you ever thought that watering down what constitutes racism makes it mean a lot less in instances of actual racism?

I don't think anyone said it was racist (or I didn't, anyway). I was responding to folks who could see any difference or don't want to take the time to be more human-centered.

12/23/2024 at 21:34 said it was racism.

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Anonymous wrote:Best book I read in 2024 was Matrix by Lauren Groff.

LOVED this. Love anything she writes.

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Anonymous wrote:All Fours, Miranda July. Sexy, weird, insightful, honest. Hit me like a bullet train.

I just finished it. I can't say I hated it, but even though I am a 52 year old menopausal woman, I could not relate to her at all.

50 yo here, just finished it. So odd. I didn't love it, but I have caught myself googling Tonka Bean soap because it sounded so luxurious.

I loved The Wedding People, I think that was my favorite last year.

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Anonymous wrote:The Women. I’d go to the library to get books on hold and there were always a dozen copies waiting to be picked up. All. Summer.

That was one of my only DNF books in 2024. We’ll see if I return to it in 2025.

It was not Kristin Hannah's best. The plot was predictable and writing was lacking.

I agree. While I enjoyed The Women because it was the Vietnam War. I though that the history aspect of women's place in society at that time and how they were views was interesting. However, I found the story too predictable and the love stories were a bit too cliché. The ending was powerful until the last love story ended.

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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

Am I the only one who finds “let me fix that for you” terribly annoying?

Not as annoying as perpetuating racism and harming people with ignorance though, is it?

You get more bees with honey.
People aren’t going to listen and learn when you write that. Much nicer ways to say it that will have a bigger impact than your self righteousness.

Couldn’t agree more. Saying slave is not perpetuating anything. Maybe in the mind of a progressive extremist it is.

+1. There is no difference between using the noun "slave" or the descriptive ohrase "enslaved person". none

Op and I don't really want to see this thread derailed further, but there is a difference. Slave is dehumanizing, while enslaved person focuses more on their humanity. The current appropriate term is enslaved person. We change terms all the time- why is this so bothersome to some?

Nobody appointed you the arbiter of which term is “currently appropriate.” Your claim is silly.

Be open to learning: https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2023/12/14/1219329636/slave-or-enslaved

It is a giant leap from letting someone know that it is more sensitive to say “enslaved person” instead of defining a person as a slave to then saying that using the word slave is racism. Have you ever thought that watering down what constitutes racism makes it mean a lot less in instances of actual racism?

I don't think anyone said it was racist (or I didn't, anyway). I was responding to folks who could see any difference or don't want to take the time to be more human-centered.

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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

Am I the only one who finds “let me fix that for you” terribly annoying?

Not as annoying as perpetuating racism and harming people with ignorance though, is it?

You get more bees with honey.
People aren’t going to listen and learn when you write that. Much nicer ways to say it that will have a bigger impact than your self righteousness.

Couldn’t agree more. Saying slave is not perpetuating anything. Maybe in the mind of a progressive extremist it is.

+1. There is no difference between using the noun "slave" or the descriptive ohrase "enslaved person". none

Op and I don't really want to see this thread derailed further, but there is a difference. Slave is dehumanizing, while enslaved person focuses more on their humanity. The current appropriate term is enslaved person. We change terms all the time- why is this so bothersome to some?

Nobody appointed you the arbiter of which term is “currently appropriate.” Your claim is silly.

Be open to learning: https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2023/12/14/1219329636/slave-or-enslaved

It is a giant leap from letting someone know that it is more sensitive to say “enslaved person” instead of defining a person as a slave to then saying that using the word slave is racism. Have you ever thought that watering down what constitutes racism makes it mean a lot less in instances of actual racism?

Anonymous wrote:Cloud Cuckoo Land was a surprise and a delight. I had started it a couple times but put it down. Finally after about page 50 I realized it was going to be a great read. It was.
Berlin Game by Len Deighton was an old but goodie for me.

CCL is an amazing book and one of the best I’ve read in the last 3-4 years. I read it the year it came out (2021? 2022?) and it was definitely the best book I read that year by far.

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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

Am I the only one who finds “let me fix that for you” terribly annoying?

Not as annoying as perpetuating racism and harming people with ignorance though, is it?

You get more bees with honey.
People aren’t going to listen and learn when you write that. Much nicer ways to say it that will have a bigger impact than your self righteousness.

Couldn’t agree more. Saying slave is not perpetuating anything. Maybe in the mind of a progressive extremist it is.

+1. There is no difference between using the noun "slave" or the descriptive ohrase "enslaved person". none

Op and I don't really want to see this thread derailed further, but there is a difference. Slave is dehumanizing, while enslaved person focuses more on their humanity. The current appropriate term is enslaved person. We change terms all the time- why is this so bothersome to some?

Nobody appointed you the arbiter of which term is “currently appropriate.” Your claim is silly.

Be open to learning: https://www.npr.org/sections/publiceditor/2023/12/14/1219329636/slave-or-enslaved

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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

Am I the only one who finds “let me fix that for you” terribly annoying?

Not as annoying as perpetuating racism and harming people with ignorance though, is it?

You get more bees with honey.
People aren’t going to listen and learn when you write that. Much nicer ways to say it that will have a bigger impact than your self righteousness.

No need to be "nicer" in response to racism. In fact that approach has been part of the problem.

Are you white? How do you explain the whole ADOS acronym? Should it not be ADOEOP? Is the term “slavery” racist? Should it be “enslaving of people”?

Best book - as a woman veteran of OEF - The Women. I cried - a lot. Agree it was not the best written book, and I wish Frankie was more well-rounded as a character in some ways, but it resonated nonetheless.

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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

Am I the only one who finds “let me fix that for you” terribly annoying?

Not as annoying as perpetuating racism and harming people with ignorance though, is it?

You get more bees with honey.
People aren’t going to listen and learn when you write that. Much nicer ways to say it that will have a bigger impact than your self righteousness.

Couldn’t agree more. Saying slave is not perpetuating anything. Maybe in the mind of a progressive extremist it is.

+1. There is no difference between using the noun "slave" or the descriptive ohrase "enslaved person". none

Op and I don't really want to see this thread derailed further, but there is a difference. Slave is dehumanizing, while enslaved person focuses more on their humanity. The current appropriate term is enslaved person. We change terms all the time- why is this so bothersome to some?

Nobody appointed you the arbiter of which term is “currently appropriate.” Your claim is silly.

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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

How’s that different?

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Anonymous wrote:James, Percival Everett.
So well written, slyly funny, enjoyed revisiting this classic narrated from the point of view of a slave.

Let me fix that for you: *an enslaved person*

Am I the only one who finds “let me fix that for you” terribly annoying?

Not annoying in this context.

Cloud Cuckoo Land was a surprise and a delight. I had started it a couple times but put it down. Finally after about page 50 I realized it was going to be a great read. It was.
Berlin Game by Len Deighton was an old but goodie for me.