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Anonymous wrote:UVA culture. Hmmm.

Part middle class nova kid plus old money southern kid plus urm kid from all 50 states.

Add in preppy and fratty. Add in competitive academically. Add in a ton of beer and bourbon.

Add in great soccer, swimming, softball and lacrosse teams, inconsistent basketball teams, and a football team that can be ahead by 21 points but lose the game more times than I can count.

I’m proud to have gone there but I developed a bad relationship with alcohol and dating/ hookup culture that it took me years to overcome. Could have happened at any d1 party school but I think UVA’s fraternity and drinking culture is especially toxic.

People do think I, smart and add IQ points when I say I went there though.

Do you think this is all still the case in 2024? Admissions to UVA has become MUCH harder and I would think leans heavily to the brainy over simply the monied (like every top20 school in 2024 vs 2000 or 1996). There are no more legacy admissions so you're either top 10% instate or top of your out-of-state school.

I have a smart kid who is actually looking for a pretty mainstream university experience (what you describe hopefully minus most of the toxicity of the drinking and hook-up culture).

Uva admits people with 1350-1450 instate regularly, for private high schools admits down into the 3rd or 4th decile. Above average smarts is their majority. That is not brainy nor highly intellectual, it is standard-strong. Similar to Michigan UCLA USC Wake. There is a larger group of super-brainiacs than there are at T75 range schools, but it is not vloseto the majority as it is at T15/ivy.

+1 I had a UVA freshmen tell me that this week—classmates are average. Not super smart. A lot of grade inflated Nova public kids

He doesn’t sound very bright himself if he is basing an entire school on his first year introductory classes and judging kids he barely knows in the 4 months he’s been there.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA culture. Hmmm.

Part middle class nova kid plus old money southern kid plus urm kid from all 50 states.

Add in preppy and fratty. Add in competitive academically. Add in a ton of beer and bourbon.

Add in great soccer, swimming, softball and lacrosse teams, inconsistent basketball teams, and a football team that can be ahead by 21 points but lose the game more times than I can count.

I’m proud to have gone there but I developed a bad relationship with alcohol and dating/ hookup culture that it took me years to overcome. Could have happened at any d1 party school but I think UVA’s fraternity and drinking culture is especially toxic.

People do think I, smart and add IQ points when I say I went there though.

Do you think this is all still the case in 2024? Admissions to UVA has become MUCH harder and I would think leans heavily to the brainy over simply the monied (like every top20 school in 2024 vs 2000 or 1996). There are no more legacy admissions so you're either top 10% instate or top of your out-of-state school.

I have a smart kid who is actually looking for a pretty mainstream university experience (what you describe hopefully minus most of the toxicity of the drinking and hook-up culture).

Uva admits people with 1350-1450 instate regularly, for private high schools admits down into the 3rd or 4th decile. Above average smarts is their majority. That is not brainy nor highly intellectual, it is standard-strong. Similar to Michigan UCLA USC Wake. There is a larger group of super-brainiacs than there are at T75 range schools, but it is not vloseto the majority as it is at T15/ivy.

+1 I had a UVA freshmen tell me that this week—classmates are average. Not super smart. A lot of grade inflated Nova public kids

Anonymous wrote:What’s less stressful UVA or W&M? My kid actually likes both, but I don’t think they want to be on a hamster wheel for another 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:UVA culture. Hmmm.

Part middle class nova kid plus old money southern kid plus urm kid from all 50 states.

Add in preppy and fratty. Add in competitive academically. Add in a ton of beer and bourbon.

Add in great soccer, swimming, softball and lacrosse teams, inconsistent basketball teams, and a football team that can be ahead by 21 points but lose the game more times than I can count.

I’m proud to have gone there but I developed a bad relationship with alcohol and dating/ hookup culture that it took me years to overcome. Could have happened at any d1 party school but I think UVA’s fraternity and drinking culture is especially toxic.

People do think I, smart and add IQ points when I say I went there though.

Do you think this is all still the case in 2024? Admissions to UVA has become MUCH harder and I would think leans heavily to the brainy over simply the monied (like every top20 school in 2024 vs 2000 or 1996). There are no more legacy admissions so you're either top 10% instate or top of your out-of-state school.

I have a smart kid who is actually looking for a pretty mainstream university experience (what you describe hopefully minus most of the toxicity of the drinking and hook-up culture).

Uva admits people with 1350-1450 instate regularly, for private high schools admits down into the 3rd or 4th decile. Above average smarts is their majority. That is not brainy nor highly intellectual, it is standard-strong. Similar to Michigan UCLA USC Wake. There is a larger group of super-brainiacs than there are at T75 range schools, but it is not vloseto the majority as it is at T15/ivy.

Anonymous wrote:What’s less stressful UVA or W&M? My kid actually likes both, but I don’t think they want to be on a hamster wheel for another 4 years.

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Anonymous wrote:Two of our daughters went to UVA from NOVA. Both were in sororities. They are smart, pretty, outgoing, and come from money. They made good friends at UVA but are generally better friends with their high school friends. Neither did much dating in college because they both thought the guys were generally douchebags. They both married someone unconnected to UVA and both now have good jobs of the type that “give back.” They’re not big fans of corporate America.

If you’d ask them, they’d agree that certain types do better at UVA than others and they’d acknowledge that - at least on the surface - they fit the type while they were there. Neither has any regrets for having attended, but neither has any great love for the school either. They are both practical, and it was a practical decision for both.

Really amazing they met every guy at uva and hated them. Hard work to meet thousands of people! . This is an idiotic response. I’m sorry.

Never said they “hated” them. They didn’t. I said I thought they were douchebags and not dating material. Anybody who knows anything about UVA knows the guys are douchebags

This is ridiculous. DH went to undergrad at UVA, he's not a douchebag. Neither are his friends, who I have met and know well (well with one exception). Now, it's true I didn't know him until grad school, but I highly doubt he had a complete personality change in a year.

I can say that while my info is dated, the culture was very heavy on drinking. Traditions and culture focused on alcohol. Heavy fraternity and party culture. The stories my DH tells from his college days are very different from my own experience at a different school

Another UVA grad who votes for d-bag. It is completely unsurprising to me that you are defending your husband and his friends(!!) during a time period you didn’t know them.

Yea I agree that the poster has no way of knowing how much of a douchebag her husband was in college. I’m sure he was a bigger one than she thinks. And no doubt his friends were too.

Again, to be clear, I am not saying that UVA guys are bad. I am saying they are douche bags. There’s a difference.

Anonymous wrote:I think the stress level is student dependent. My son is at W&M and is having a great time. Working hard enough, but isn't obsessed with getting straight As. His roommate is a higher stress student, working to get those As. My son is having a very well-rounded fun college experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Like at any big school, I think each student can find the “culture” that best suits them. There is not only one culture at UVA.

Everyone should investigate that this is in fact true. I thought it would be true when I went to college, but it was not. Much more homogenity than I expected.

Anonymous wrote:Like at any big school, I think each student can find the “culture” that best suits them. There is not only one culture at UVA.

Anonymous wrote:Why can’t you spell the name “McIntire” correctly? I doubt you have any personal experience with UVA.

Anonymous wrote:I hear that UVA culture is hyper competitive. Not an academic stress culture like W&M but cutthroat socially. Is this true?

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Anonymous wrote:Two of our daughters went to UVA from NOVA. Both were in sororities. They are smart, pretty, outgoing, and come from money. They made good friends at UVA but are generally better friends with their high school friends. Neither did much dating in college because they both thought the guys were generally douchebags. They both married someone unconnected to UVA and both now have good jobs of the type that “give back.” They’re not big fans of corporate America.

If you’d ask them, they’d agree that certain types do better at UVA than others and they’d acknowledge that - at least on the surface - they fit the type while they were there. Neither has any regrets for having attended, but neither has any great love for the school either. They are both practical, and it was a practical decision for both.

Really amazing they met every guy at uva and hated them. Hard work to meet thousands of people! . This is an idiotic response. I’m sorry.

Never said they “hated” them. They didn’t. I said I thought they were douchebags and not dating material. Anybody who knows anything about UVA knows the guys are douchebags

This is ridiculous. DH went to undergrad at UVA, he's not a douchebag. Neither are his friends, who I have met and know well (well with one exception). Now, it's true I didn't know him until grad school, but I highly doubt he had a complete personality change in a year.

I can say that while my info is dated, the culture was very heavy on drinking. Traditions and culture focused on alcohol. Heavy fraternity and party culture. The stories my DH tells from his college days are very different from my own experience at a different school

Another UVA grad who votes for d-bag. It is completely unsurprising to me that you are defending your husband and his friends(!!) during a time period you didn’t know them.