Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:42
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest, the federal government owns a lot of buildings. If they’re sitting empty because people aren’t coming in, why keep them? These buildings were likely purchased with the expectation that everyone would be working in person, 9 to 5. If that’s no longer the case, it makes sense to either have employees return to the office or sell off the buildings, shut them down, and reduce capacity to accommodate a remote workforce. After all, this is what companies do—why pay for empty or underutilized buildings if no one is using them?
GSA has been consolidating already for years, especially giving up leases (more are leased than you probably think). The newer GSA-owned ones are not designed to accommodate the entire population at once.
PP is a great example of people who think they have the answers, but have no actual information about what's already being done.
Isn't the purpose to cut a significant percentage of feds? Why do they need the entire population?
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:26
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Let’s be honest, the federal government owns a lot of buildings. If they’re sitting empty because people aren’t coming in, why keep them? These buildings were likely purchased with the expectation that everyone would be working in person, 9 to 5. If that’s no longer the case, it makes sense to either have employees return to the office or sell off the buildings, shut them down, and reduce capacity to accommodate a remote workforce. After all, this is what companies do—why pay for empty or underutilized buildings if no one is using them?
GSA has been consolidating already for years, especially giving up leases (more are leased than you probably think). The newer GSA-owned ones are not designed to accommodate the entire population at once.
PP is a great example of people who think they have the answers, but have no actual information about what's already being done.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:21
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:This is not great for parents of young children who may not have much aftercare at their daycares. Our former daycare really cut back hours post COVID. We are lucky that our older kids can stay at their elementary school until 6:30pm, but this is not the case throughout DCPS.
LMAO! That's a "you" problem not us.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:17
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
This is not great for parents of young children who may not have much aftercare at their daycares. Our former daycare really cut back hours post COVID. We are lucky that our older kids can stay at their elementary school until 6:30pm, but this is not the case throughout DCPS.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:13
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know there are no answers but our office has hired quite a few remote workers. They actually make less because no DC locality pay. I wonder how they handle that.
I think the idea behind requiring RTO is that many people, including people who are hours away from a physical office, would quit and then not be replaced.
Ironically some of our best employees are remote. That would be a shame.
But most of them are not.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:12
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one knows the answers to these questions.
However, Vivek has said he wants feds in the office 8-6 everyday and claims this can be done via EO. We shall see.
8-6 is illegal. Is Vivek a moron?
Many feds are FLSA exempt. Vivek can require whatever hours in-office that he wants.
literally no. a non-government entity cannot require anyone in the government to do anything at all.
Vivek can make a recommendation to Trump, who can implement it by executive order immediately.
Not really in most cases.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:11
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one knows the answers to these questions.
However, Vivek has said he wants feds in the office 8-6 everyday and claims this can be done via EO. We shall see.
8-6 is illegal. Is Vivek a moron?
Many feds are FLSA exempt. Vivek can require whatever hours in-office that he wants.
literally no. a non-government entity cannot require anyone in the government to do anything at all.
Vivek can make a recommendation to Trump, who can implement it by executive order immediately.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:09
Subject: Re:Questions about DOGE and RTO
It’s all so silly and I don’t know if they are just con artists but actually believe what they say. Yesterday Vivek tweeted complaining about agencies not implementing GAO and OIG recommendations to reduce fraud, waste and abuse (that outside parties are usually doing to the govt). How on earth do you think agencies are suddenly going to be able to implement all of these supposedly great recommendations if you get rid of all the staff and remove agencies ability to create new regulations?
Anonymous
11/21/2024 11:02
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:No one knows the answers to these questions.
However, Vivek has said he wants feds in the office 8-6 everyday and claims this can be done via EO. We shall see.
8-6 is illegal. Is Vivek a moron?
Many feds are FLSA exempt. Vivek can require whatever hours in-office that he wants.
literally no. a non-government entity cannot require anyone in the government to do anything at all.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 10:33
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:I could handle this for 6 months after January. But we’re moving to an office a fraction of our current one and the plan was to be in twice a week while a different coworker used my office the other 2 days of the week. The office space and furniture are already up with that scheme in mind. How are you gonna fit double the people in the same space?
I can personally go in fine, but since COVID, I've personally trained 3 people who work in other states. I have colleagues in Alaska. And it's not like we're hurting for work, they've hired so many because we've been drowning in filings since COVID hit, our productivity numbers are up but we've been flooded. We're a fee funded agency so maybe we'll be left alone, but who knows.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 10:24
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
I could handle this for 6 months after January. But we’re moving to an office a fraction of our current one and the plan was to be in twice a week while a different coworker used my office the other 2 days of the week. The office space and furniture are already up with that scheme in mind. How are you gonna fit double the people in the same space?
Anonymous
11/21/2024 10:14
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
We literally cannot fit everyone in the building by a factor of ten. Pre COVID they were basically begging us to go on teleworking if we were eligible because they were running out of office space and only maybe 15% of the staff was in office at the time.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 10:08
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:RTO will work in one if two ways, depending on your agency:
1. For well respected, relatively noncontroversial independent agencies that get their budget from fees, etc, not much will change. SEC, OCC, FDIC, etc
2. For everyone else (and cfpb), things will be very bad.
You think a bunch of billionaires narcissists think the SEC is a respected, noncontroversial agency? You crazy, girl.
They need SEC to exist. In particular, to provide some clarity on crypto ICO issuances. SEC is critical to the functioning of financial markets. No one is blowing up the SEC; they just want to change the regs and enforcement thresholds.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 10:01
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I know there are no answers but our office has hired quite a few remote workers. They actually make less because no DC locality pay. I wonder how they handle that.
I think the idea behind requiring RTO is that many people, including people who are hours away from a physical office, would quit and then not be replaced.
Ironically some of our best employees are remote. That would be a shame.
Yup. Chaos like this, massive RIFs, etc cause organizations to lose their best performers, who have lots of other options.
Anonymous
11/21/2024 10:01
Subject: Questions about DOGE and RTO
The only people who want RTO are parking garage owners, owners of overpriced/crappy restaurants, REITs, and Metro.