Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:18     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?


You can try to get rid of the Second Amendment, do your best.


People say they want the country to be safer. That would do it. Won't happen in my lifetime though, unfortunately. But I've already bought my retirement home where I don't have to worry about it, so in 5 years I really don't care what happens here anymore.


You hate the freedom and right the constitution gives to America citizens to own guns. Enjoy your retirement.


Yes, I think that amendment is outdated with today's technology. I hate the mass shootings, and that kids have to do active shooter drills starting in kindergarten. It's only going to get worse as weaponry advances. And yes, I will, thank you.


- but you still voted for two people who both boasted about owning automatics. Brilliant logic there, PP.

Moron.


You voted for someone who wiped his ass with the constitution
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:18     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?


You can try to get rid of the Second Amendment, do your best.


People say they want the country to be safer. That would do it. Won't happen in my lifetime though, unfortunately. But I've already bought my retirement home where I don't have to worry about it, so in 5 years I really don't care what happens here anymore.


You hate the freedom and right the constitution gives to America citizens to own guns. Enjoy your retirement.


Yes, I think that amendment is outdated with today's technology. I hate the mass shootings, and that kids have to do active shooter drills starting in kindergarten. It's only going to get worse as weaponry advances. And yes, I will, thank you.


Guns don’t hop to schools on pogo sticks, load themselves, and shoot bullets at kids.

Mentally ill criminals or just plain criminals are the problem.

I agree it is possibly going to get worse, because people are not receiving adequate or any treatment for mental health issues.

We can’t just pretend that the Second Amendment doesn’t exist. People who follow the laws of our country have inalienable rights.

Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:13     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?


You can try to get rid of the Second Amendment, do your best.


People say they want the country to be safer. That would do it. Won't happen in my lifetime though, unfortunately. But I've already bought my retirement home where I don't have to worry about it, so in 5 years I really don't care what happens here anymore.


You hate the freedom and right the constitution gives to America citizens to own guns. Enjoy your retirement.


Yes, I think that amendment is outdated with today's technology. I hate the mass shootings, and that kids have to do active shooter drills starting in kindergarten. It's only going to get worse as weaponry advances. And yes, I will, thank you.


- but you still voted for two people who both boasted about owning automatics. Brilliant logic there, PP.

Moron.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:10     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:So people immigrate to the US for the purposes of raping and killing? Isn’t that just as easy to do in Mexico and Guatemala?


Laken Riley case: Murder suspect was 'hunting' for women on UGA's campus, prosecutor says

The suspect accused of killing 22-year-old Laken Riley was "hunting" for women on the University of Georgia's campus the day the nursing student was found brutally murdered on the school grounds, a prosecutor said Friday during opening statements in the bench trial.

Special prosecutor Sheila Ross told the court that while on that "hunt," the defendant, Jose Ibarra, encountered Riley while she was out for her morning jog on Feb. 22.

"When Laken Riley refused to be his rape victim, he bashed her skull in with a rock repeatedly," Ross said. "That is what this case is all about."
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/laken-riley-case-bench-trial-starts/story?id=115872064

The video showed Tibbetts jogging and Rivera's car going by, officials said, and Rivera was tracked down by investigators Monday.

In an interview, Rivera told authorities he saw Tibbetts running, got out of his car and ran alongside of her, Rick Rahn of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation said.

Rivera said Tibbetts grabbed her phone and said, "I'm gonna call the police," according to an arrest affidavit.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/mollie-tibbetts-suspected-killer-bars-drew-investigator/story?id=57329466





You don't even have to go to Georgia. How about the two women murdered in the DMV:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/suspect-arrested-2023-murder-mother-5-killed-hiking/story?id=111157216

https://www.wmar2news.com/local/kayla-hamiltons-murder-recorded-on-voicemail-while-her-killer-claims-more-victims


The Kayla Hamilton murder is especially egregious, because immigration officials let the perp through our borders even though they knew he had ties to MS13! So sick. It is a murder that was 100% preventable of Biden and the Dems didn't allow anyone with a pulse to simply be let in, or caught and released.

Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:09     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?


You can try to get rid of the Second Amendment, do your best.


People say they want the country to be safer. That would do it. Won't happen in my lifetime though, unfortunately. But I've already bought my retirement home where I don't have to worry about it, so in 5 years I really don't care what happens here anymore.


You hate the freedom and right the constitution gives to America citizens to own guns. Enjoy your retirement.


Yes, I think that amendment is outdated with today's technology. I hate the mass shootings, and that kids have to do active shooter drills starting in kindergarten. It's only going to get worse as weaponry advances. And yes, I will, thank you.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:05     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?


You can try to get rid of the Second Amendment, do your best.


People say they want the country to be safer. That would do it. Won't happen in my lifetime though, unfortunately. But I've already bought my retirement home where I don't have to worry about it, so in 5 years I really don't care what happens here anymore.


You hate the freedom and right the constitution gives to America citizens to own guns. Enjoy your retirement.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:03     Subject: Re:Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:See, this is what happens when Democrats incentivize illegal immigration and gaming of the asylum system:

https://www.yahoo.com/news/indian-family-froze-death-crossing-050438619.html

I will never understand why Dems simply cannot understand their lax attitude towards immigration is providing absolutely perverse incentives for people to take such stupid risks. No other country on earth tolerates this BS. You cause more deaths and suffering by NOT being hard-line about immigration.



Why can’t Republican support e-verify? Don’t you think a lot of the draw would disappear if it’s wasn’t so easy to employ undocumented workers?


Illinois Bans Most Employers from Using E-Verify

FAIR Take | August 2024

Illinois Governor J.B. Pritzker (D) recently signed into law a bill that significantly hampers employers’ ability to utilize E-Verify to check the work authorization of their prospective employees. Following California’s lead, Illinois becomes the second state to impose restrictions on E-Verify usage.

https://www.fairus.org/legislation/state-and-local/illinois-bans-most-employers-using-e-verify


Not shockingly, this article is misleading.


Whether intentional or just poor drafting, the Illinois Legislature’s changes to the Act will effectively ban most Illinois employers from using E-Verify, and possibly prohibit employers from ever taking adverse actions against employees with discrepancies in their work authorization documentation.
https://www.fordharrison.com/is-illinois-trying-to-bar-the-use-of-e-verify-again


Let’s try a non-employment law firm whose bottom line isn’t impacted by these changes.



The amended Act contains two provisions that, taken together, appear to effectively ban the use of E-Verify in Illinois:

Section 12(a) reads, “Nothing in this Act shall be construed to require an employer to enroll in any Electronic Employment Verification System, including the E-Verify program . . . beyond those obligations that have been imposed upon them by federal law.”
Section 13(b) asserts that “An employer shall not impose work authorization verification or re-verification requirements greater than those required by federal law.”
These provisions seem to state that Illinois employers who are not federally mandated to enroll in E-Verify are not required to — and thus, “shall not” — do so.


2007, the Illinois legislature tried to prohibit the use of E-Verify on the basis that it may be overinclusive, providing inaccurate information regarding work authorization to the detriment of would-be employees. In short order, however, the 2007 law was struck down by a federal court as an unconstitutional violation of the Supremacy Clause. If the most recent amendments to the Act are considered a total ban of all voluntary use of E-Verify, on their face or in practice, similar constitutional challenges may be asserted and prevail.

https://www.taftlaw.com/news-events/law-bulletins/is-illinois-gearing-up-to-ban-e-verify-taft-explains/

If you believe this information is inaccurate and misleading, you can refute it.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 14:03     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?


You can try to get rid of the Second Amendment, do your best.


People say they want the country to be safer. That would do it. Won't happen in my lifetime though, unfortunately. But I've already bought my retirement home where I don't have to worry about it, so in 5 years I really don't care what happens here anymore.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 13:59     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

Anonymous wrote:How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?


You can try to get rid of the Second Amendment, do your best.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 13:58     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

Anonymous wrote:So people immigrate to the US for the purposes of raping and killing? Isn’t that just as easy to do in Mexico and Guatemala?


Laken Riley case: Murder suspect was 'hunting' for women on UGA's campus, prosecutor says

The suspect accused of killing 22-year-old Laken Riley was "hunting" for women on the University of Georgia's campus the day the nursing student was found brutally murdered on the school grounds, a prosecutor said Friday during opening statements in the bench trial.

Special prosecutor Sheila Ross told the court that while on that "hunt," the defendant, Jose Ibarra, encountered Riley while she was out for her morning jog on Feb. 22.

"When Laken Riley refused to be his rape victim, he bashed her skull in with a rock repeatedly," Ross said. "That is what this case is all about."
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/laken-riley-case-bench-trial-starts/story?id=115872064

The video showed Tibbetts jogging and Rivera's car going by, officials said, and Rivera was tracked down by investigators Monday.

In an interview, Rivera told authorities he saw Tibbetts running, got out of his car and ran alongside of her, Rick Rahn of the Iowa Division of Criminal Investigation said.

Rivera said Tibbetts grabbed her phone and said, "I'm gonna call the police," according to an arrest affidavit.

https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/mollie-tibbetts-suspected-killer-bars-drew-investigator/story?id=57329466


Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 13:53     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

How about we get rid of immigrants AND get rid of guns?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 13:52     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:This article outlines the Trump Administration plans for mass deportation. While in part relying on a “remain in Mexico” policy, it also requires the construction of an untold number of new detention facilities.

https://apple.news/Azc_QxwuoTymMEiX8wszEtA

First, this is going to take years to construct, and will line government contractors pockets with the overhead. Second, US citizens will be responsible for housing, food and transportation costs during the time period for adjudication. It seems like this set up is aimed to further privatize the deportation process at an enormous expense to American taxpayers.

Why is this more viable than having immigrants work while awaiting adjudication? Increase tracking capabilities and require employers of immigrants to maintain information on them. It will cost a fraction of the money used to construct and maintain these facilities.




No adjudication, cancel all asylum cases and deport the rest back to their home


That’s what America voted for. People can immigrate legally to the US. We have a system in place to facilitate legal immigration.


Yes and after they can try again for asylum, the recent asylum rules are a joke everyone was able to claim it saying oh there's crime in my country I am persecuted
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 13:52     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

So people immigrate to the US for the purposes of raping and killing? Isn’t that just as easy to do in Mexico and Guatemala?
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 13:48     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:So what are the MAGAs going to do when they do mass detention and deportation of illegals and it barely makes a dent in crime -

And in fact, crime goes up because costs go up because a lot of the goods and services we enjoyed that were dependent on their labor goes up...




Define crime. Because coming in illegally is a crime. Driving around without insurance is a crime. Working without a valid i9 and not paying state and federal income tax is a crime. Skipping out on hospital bill payments is a crime. Stealing identities and social security numbers so you can work is a crime. You are on,y looking at a fraction of crimes illegal immigrants commit if you think murders are all that matters.


I bought a brand new car and was hit in less than a week after getting it. The guy who got out to look basically spoke zero English and high tailed it out of there, probably because he had no insurance and was undocumented. Now I, as a law abiding citizen, get screwed because I had to pay to fix everything and my insurance went up because I was hit by an undocumented migrant who had no insurance and broke even more laws by hit and running.


+1 The same thing happened to me. A non-english speaking man sideswiped my car in a starbucks drive through of all places. We both got out and I simply stated he hit my car. He walked back to his truck and fled. Fantastic.

Imagine a man rapes and kills your daughter instead of damaging your car? We need the border secured. Trump has a mandate to do that now, and he will.

Anyone who wants to take their daughter to a foreign country to be raped and killed by a legal citizen of that country- feel free. Take your car along and let it be hit into and crumpled up, too.
Anonymous
Post 11/16/2024 13:46     Subject: Mass Deportation: this is going to be expensive

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Anonymous wrote:It’s more expensive to have illegal immigrants living illegally in our country. It’s worth the investment to deport them and secure the border. We can’t take care of American citizens, why are we letting people from other countries come to our country against our laws, and taking care of them?

We have the money to deport illegal immigrants and secure our border.


Lol. Would love to see a citation for this. Of course you won't be able to provide one and will scream "cry more liberal" when asked.


It’s not. Undocumented immigrants pay $96B in taxes annually at all levels to offset benefits.

Let’s fine Walmart for underemployment of its workers, who use benefits disproportionately.

Let’s fine white plumbers and electricians and severs who don’t report all their income.



Illegal immigrants cost the states and fed govs over 150 billion annually.

The FAIR study, released in March last year, documented the financial toll of illegal immigration on the U.S., taking into account factors like emergency medical care, incarcerating illegal aliens in local jails, and federal budgets that pay out billions in welfare every year, pegging the net annual cost at $150.7 billion.

Arriving at the figure by subtracting the estimated $32 billion of tax contributions made by illegal immigrants, FAIR said the economic impact would have otherwise been $182 billion. In 2017, the U.S. spent roughly $116 billion on illegal immigration, suggesting that the problem is a growing one.

https://www.newsweek.com/illegal-immigration-costs-us-billions-biden-administration-policy-impact-taxpayer-burden-1866555



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