Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:28     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

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Anonymous wrote:I sincerely believe 100000% Kamala will win by a wider margin than imagined. Partly because Trump is breaking down and the undecided prob going for Kamala as well as more people hate him than dislike her. I will not be voting for either but I pretty much guarantee that she'll win it. There's simply no way people will let Trump win again. No matter how many supporters he has, and u know he has a lot, he antagonizes people way too easily and it's 2024 not 2016 when people wanted to take a chance. He's had one and people will give Kamala one this time around. I don't think she'll do very well but I know he won't get another chance. It's just not how this country works.


If you have been listening to Trump’s rally speeches over the past few weeks and still cannot vote for Kamala something is wrong. Trump’s own campaign advisors can’t rein him in. Do you think he is fit to be president? Would any company ever hire Trump as employee? Think about that. A non-vote is a vote for Trump.


Policy is forever. Trump is at worst President for four years under mostly divided government.

I'm a different poster but what Trump says at his rallies is barely interesting.


Policy? Like a nationwide abortion ban?


Or putting RFK Jr in charge of our healthcare and food. Yeah, nothing to worry about - seems just fine.

My anxiety is through the roof, too, OP. Though it's a little better since the Selzer poll.


agree. even if it doesn't pan out - its helping my anxiety now which is not a bad thing honestly
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:25     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

As an anti-Trump voter who still doesn't agree with any of Harris' policies...I will blame the Dems if Trump wins.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:22     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

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Anonymous wrote:The Iowa poll actually made my anxiety level come down. Selzer was one of the few who called it for Trump in 2016 and it gives me hope that this is not going to be as much of a nail biter as everyone was predicting….


Same. Hopefully she’s right lol


you do realize that if trump loses Iowa he will still win according to all the polls?


I am hoping that the amount of intelligent people voting out number the deplorables. I am no longer watching the news or political coverage because I just can't take anymore and it seems like it's all BS Trump propaganda at this point.


OP here - I am not so certain about this. The DMV is a bubble; there is an entire other world and reality out there. Was on the phone with a friend who lives in Arizona; both her and her husband voted for Trump. She kept talking about illegal immigrants etc. I know at least three other friends (these are all 30+ year relationships) in VA, GA and PA, who will vote Trump, along with their spouses. And these are educated people; just different value systems. I have another educated friend here in MD who is educated and is Jewish who is voting Trump, partly due to Israel issues. So, who knows what will happen on Tuesday....

So you know a bunch of people voting for Trump. That’s great. But it doesn’t change the fact that Trump lost the popular vote in the two last elections and he lost the electoral vote last election.


True...but it should be worrisome that it was NOT by that much.

2016
Candidate/Party/Electoral Votes/Popular Votes
✓Donald J. Trump Republican 304 62,984,828 -- 47% of the popular vote
Hillary R. Clinton Democratic 227 65,853,514 -- 49% of the popular vote
Other Other 7 6,678,550 -- 4% of the popular vote
134,516,892 Total Popular Votes
Source: https://www.270towin.com/2016_Election/

2020
Candidate/Party/Electoral Votes/Popular Votes
✓Joseph R. Biden Democratic 306 81,268,867 -- 52% of the popular vote
Donald J. Trump Republican 232 74,216,747 -- 47% of the popular vote
Jo Jorgensen Libertarian 0 1,865,720 -- 1% of the popular vote
157,351,334 Total Popular Votes
Source: https://www.270towin.com/2020_Election/

Taking a look at the past...Trump steadily won 47% of the popular vote both in 2016 and 2020....that's half the country. The only reason Biden won in 2020 is because rather than vote for other third party candidates people voted for Biden.

I am worried about those voting for Jill Stein or deciding to not vote at all. This is the percentage that will make or brake it IMHO.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:16     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

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Anonymous wrote:This shouldn’t be causing anyone anxiety. The world will still keep turning no matter who is elected. It’s only 4 yrs. All the doom and gloom talk on both sides is just theatrics.


True but until people wake up and realize that the two current major parties are in states of complete dysfunction outside of raising money and pleasing their wealthy donors, we will continue to see major party nominees as awful as Trump having a chance in national elections.

BoThSiDeS
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:14     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

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Anonymous wrote:The Iowa poll actually made my anxiety level come down. Selzer was one of the few who called it for Trump in 2016 and it gives me hope that this is not going to be as much of a nail biter as everyone was predicting….


Same. Hopefully she’s right lol


you do realize that if trump loses Iowa he will still win according to all the polls?


I am hoping that the amount of intelligent people voting out number the deplorables. I am no longer watching the news or political coverage because I just can't take anymore and it seems like it's all BS Trump propaganda at this point.


OP here - I am not so certain about this. The DMV is a bubble; there is an entire other world and reality out there. Was on the phone with a friend who lives in Arizona; both her and her husband voted for Trump. She kept talking about illegal immigrants etc. I know at least three other friends (these are all 30+ year relationships) in VA, GA and PA, who will vote Trump, along with their spouses. And these are educated people; just different value systems. I have another educated friend here in MD who is educated and is Jewish who is voting Trump, partly due to Israel issues. So, who knows what will happen on Tuesday....


i dont think i could be friends with anyone who is voting for trump
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:10     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

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Anonymous wrote:I sincerely believe 100000% Kamala will win by a wider margin than imagined. Partly because Trump is breaking down and the undecided prob going for Kamala as well as more people hate him than dislike her. I will not be voting for either but I pretty much guarantee that she'll win it. There's simply no way people will let Trump win again. No matter how many supporters he has, and u know he has a lot, he antagonizes people way too easily and it's 2024 not 2016 when people wanted to take a chance. He's had one and people will give Kamala one this time around. I don't think she'll do very well but I know he won't get another chance. It's just not how this country works.


If you have been listening to Trump’s rally speeches over the past few weeks and still cannot vote for Kamala something is wrong. Trump’s own campaign advisors can’t rein him in. Do you think he is fit to be president? Would any company ever hire Trump as employee? Think about that. A non-vote is a vote for Trump.


Policy is forever. Trump is at worst President for four years under mostly divided government.

I'm a different poster but what Trump says at his rallies is barely interesting.


Policy? Like a nationwide abortion ban?


Or putting RFK Jr in charge of our healthcare and food. Yeah, nothing to worry about - seems just fine.

My anxiety is through the roof, too, OP. Though it's a little better since the Selzer poll.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:09     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I sincerely believe 100000% Kamala will win by a wider margin than imagined. Partly because Trump is breaking down and the undecided prob going for Kamala as well as more people hate him than dislike her. I will not be voting for either but I pretty much guarantee that she'll win it. There's simply no way people will let Trump win again. No matter how many supporters he has, and u know he has a lot, he antagonizes people way too easily and it's 2024 not 2016 when people wanted to take a chance. He's had one and people will give Kamala one this time around. I don't think she'll do very well but I know he won't get another chance. It's just not how this country works.


If you have been listening to Trump’s rally speeches over the past few weeks and still cannot vote for Kamala something is wrong. Trump’s own campaign advisors can’t rein him in. Do you think he is fit to be president? Would any company ever hire Trump as employee? Think about that. A non-vote is a vote for Trump.


Policy is forever. Trump is at worst President for four years under mostly divided government.

I'm a different poster but what Trump says at his rallies is barely interesting.


Policy? Like a nationwide abortion ban?


Add to this that he changed the entire court landscape by ramming through unqualified conservative judges that will take generations to undo the damage.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:00     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Iowa poll actually made my anxiety level come down. Selzer was one of the few who called it for Trump in 2016 and it gives me hope that this is not going to be as much of a nail biter as everyone was predicting….


Same. Hopefully she’s right lol


you do realize that if trump loses Iowa he will still win according to all the polls?


I am hoping that the amount of intelligent people voting out number the deplorables. I am no longer watching the news or political coverage because I just can't take anymore and it seems like it's all BS Trump propaganda at this point.


OP here - I am not so certain about this. The DMV is a bubble; there is an entire other world and reality out there. Was on the phone with a friend who lives in Arizona; both her and her husband voted for Trump. She kept talking about illegal immigrants etc. I know at least three other friends (these are all 30+ year relationships) in VA, GA and PA, who will vote Trump, along with their spouses. And these are educated people; just different value systems. I have another educated friend here in MD who is educated and is Jewish who is voting Trump, partly due to Israel issues. So, who knows what will happen on Tuesday....

So you know a bunch of people voting for Trump. That’s great. But it doesn’t change the fact that Trump lost the popular vote in the two last elections and he lost the electoral vote last election.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 10:00     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Iowa poll actually made my anxiety level come down. Selzer was one of the few who called it for Trump in 2016 and it gives me hope that this is not going to be as much of a nail biter as everyone was predicting….


Same. Hopefully she’s right lol


you do realize that if trump loses Iowa he will still win according to all the polls?


I am hoping that the amount of intelligent people voting out number the deplorables. I am no longer watching the news or political coverage because I just can't take anymore and it seems like it's all BS Trump propaganda at this point.


OP here - I am not so certain about this. The DMV is a bubble; there is an entire other world and reality out there. Was on the phone with a friend who lives in Arizona; both her and her husband voted for Trump. She kept talking about illegal immigrants etc. I know at least three other friends (these are all 30+ year relationships) in VA, GA and PA, who will vote Trump, along with their spouses. And these are educated people; just different value systems. I have another educated friend here in MD who is educated and is Jewish who is voting Trump, partly due to Israel issues. So, who knows what will happen on Tuesday....


Educated does not equal intelligent. If you vote for Trump you are not intelligent. Full stop. His entire cabinet has come out against him including his VP. Listen to what is being said about him by people that have worked for him and the garbage coming out of his own mouth. You are willfully ignorant to ignore all the evidence being presented to you by Republicans and Trump himself.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 09:47     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sincerely believe 100000% Kamala will win by a wider margin than imagined. Partly because Trump is breaking down and the undecided prob going for Kamala as well as more people hate him than dislike her. I will not be voting for either but I pretty much guarantee that she'll win it. There's simply no way people will let Trump win again. No matter how many supporters he has, and u know he has a lot, he antagonizes people way too easily and it's 2024 not 2016 when people wanted to take a chance. He's had one and people will give Kamala one this time around. I don't think she'll do very well but I know he won't get another chance. It's just not how this country works.


If you have been listening to Trump’s rally speeches over the past few weeks and still cannot vote for Kamala something is wrong. Trump’s own campaign advisors can’t rein him in. Do you think he is fit to be president? Would any company ever hire Trump as employee? Think about that. A non-vote is a vote for Trump.


Policy is forever. Trump is at worst President for four years under mostly divided government.

I'm a different poster but what Trump says at his rallies is barely interesting.


Policy? Like a nationwide abortion ban?
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 09:42     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sincerely believe 100000% Kamala will win by a wider margin than imagined. Partly because Trump is breaking down and the undecided prob going for Kamala as well as more people hate him than dislike her. I will not be voting for either but I pretty much guarantee that she'll win it. There's simply no way people will let Trump win again. No matter how many supporters he has, and u know he has a lot, he antagonizes people way too easily and it's 2024 not 2016 when people wanted to take a chance. He's had one and people will give Kamala one this time around. I don't think she'll do very well but I know he won't get another chance. It's just not how this country works.


If you have been listening to Trump’s rally speeches over the past few weeks and still cannot vote for Kamala something is wrong. Trump’s own campaign advisors can’t rein him in. Do you think he is fit to be president? Would any company ever hire Trump as employee? Think about that. A non-vote is a vote for Trump.


Policy is forever. Trump is at worst President for four years under mostly divided government.

I'm a different poster but what Trump says at his rallies is barely interesting.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 09:42     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I sincerely believe 100000% Kamala will win by a wider margin than imagined. Partly because Trump is breaking down and the undecided prob going for Kamala as well as more people hate him than dislike her. I will not be voting for either but I pretty much guarantee that she'll win it. There's simply no way people will let Trump win again. No matter how many supporters he has, and u know he has a lot, he antagonizes people way too easily and it's 2024 not 2016 when people wanted to take a chance. He's had one and people will give Kamala one this time around. I don't think she'll do very well but I know he won't get another chance. It's just not how this country works.


If you have been listening to Trump’s rally speeches over the past few weeks and still cannot vote for Kamala something is wrong. Trump’s own campaign advisors can’t rein him in. Do you think he is fit to be president? Would any company ever hire Trump as employee? Think about that. A non-vote is a vote for Trump.


One is not fit and will make bad choices.

One is fit and will still make bad choices.

No good option here.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 09:36     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:I sincerely believe 100000% Kamala will win by a wider margin than imagined. Partly because Trump is breaking down and the undecided prob going for Kamala as well as more people hate him than dislike her. I will not be voting for either but I pretty much guarantee that she'll win it. There's simply no way people will let Trump win again. No matter how many supporters he has, and u know he has a lot, he antagonizes people way too easily and it's 2024 not 2016 when people wanted to take a chance. He's had one and people will give Kamala one this time around. I don't think she'll do very well but I know he won't get another chance. It's just not how this country works.


If you have been listening to Trump’s rally speeches over the past few weeks and still cannot vote for Kamala something is wrong. Trump’s own campaign advisors can’t rein him in. Do you think he is fit to be president? Would any company ever hire Trump as employee? Think about that. A non-vote is a vote for Trump.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 09:22     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

One complaint we kept hearing from 2016 and 2020 was that there are Dems in red states, many who feel ignored. So, while DC may be a bubble, there are people in every state voting Dem.

And, you can find outliers anywhere. I just posted on another thread that I was in MI this weekend and nobody cheered when a Trump truck went by the tailgating. Our GOP friends made comments that were anti-Trump. Doesn't mean they'll vote for Harris -- didn't ask. But, we just don't know yet what position will be outliers this year.
Anonymous
Post 11/04/2024 09:18     Subject: Anxiety level going uppppp..

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The Iowa poll actually made my anxiety level come down. Selzer was one of the few who called it for Trump in 2016 and it gives me hope that this is not going to be as much of a nail biter as everyone was predicting….


Same. Hopefully she’s right lol


you do realize that if trump loses Iowa he will still win according to all the polls?


I am hoping that the amount of intelligent people voting out number the deplorables. I am no longer watching the news or political coverage because I just can't take anymore and it seems like it's all BS Trump propaganda at this point.


OP here - I am not so certain about this. The DMV is a bubble; there is an entire other world and reality out there. Was on the phone with a friend who lives in Arizona; both her and her husband voted for Trump. She kept talking about illegal immigrants etc. I know at least three other friends (these are all 30+ year relationships) in VA, GA and PA, who will vote Trump, along with their spouses. And these are educated people; just different value systems. I have another educated friend here in MD who is educated and is Jewish who is voting Trump, partly due to Israel issues. So, who knows what will happen on Tuesday....