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Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.

They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.

1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program

They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.

I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.

CS major is just tough.

I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.

What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.

Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+

Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.

Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.

But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school

My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.

Troll elsewhere

DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.

Again, it is not the fact that they were accepted. It is the misunderstanding of what is meant by "safety."

The misunderstanding is on you, not others. A college could be a safety for some but a reach for others. You got it now?

There is a floor, where it doesn't matter how high the student's stats are.

High stats and high achieving (think significant national awards) can take UVA/UMich etc as safeties.

Disagree. They're not a sure thing for any kid. Our school's (top private) data shows random denials with high stats kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Friend was NMSF, 1590, top 5%, tons of rigor including AP Stat and BC Calc. Applied nursing to UVA and UNC from oos. Thought scores were good enough so didn't try elsewhere. Ended up at state university but not even in nursing program.
Now....mistake was only having two reaches. And nursing makes everything unsafe.

OOS is always a crapshoot, sure, but instate, Nursing

If she's not getting into nursing instate, who is?!

Is she permanently blocked from nursing, or just has to apply after first year?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.

They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.

1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program

They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.

I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.

CS major is just tough.

I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.

What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.

Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+

Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.

Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.

But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school

My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.

Troll elsewhere

DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.

Again, it is not the fact that they were accepted. It is the misunderstanding of what is meant by "safety."

The misunderstanding is on you, not others. A college could be a safety for some but a reach for others. You got it now?

There is a floor, where it doesn't matter how high the student's stats are.

High stats and high achieving (think significant national awards) can take UVA/UMich etc as safeties.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.

They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.

1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program

They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.

I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.

CS major is just tough.

I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.

What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.

Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+

Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.

Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.

But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school

My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.

Troll elsewhere

DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.

Again, it is not the fact that they were accepted. It is the misunderstanding of what is meant by "safety."

The misunderstanding is on you, not others. A college could be a safety for some but a reach for others. You got it now?

+1 my MIT kid had UVA and Michigan as safeties.

I'm the PP with a kid who only got into UMD for CS with high stats in a magnet program.

UMD is a safety for kids in DC's peer group. These are super high achieving, high stats kids. They all see UMD as a safety, including for CS.

Now, of course, there are one offs from that peer group who don't get into UMD for CS, but that's a one off. For the vast majority in the magnet programs, UMD CP is a safety. I know of only one kid in the magnet program who didn't get into UMD for CS, and this was 3 years ago, and this kid didn't have a great GPA.

If one-offs happen every year, then it's not a safety.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.

They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.

1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program

They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.

I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.

CS major is just tough.

I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.

What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.

Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+

Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.

Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.

But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school

My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.

Troll elsewhere

DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.

Again, it is not the fact that they were accepted. It is the misunderstanding of what is meant by "safety."

The misunderstanding is on you, not others. A college could be a safety for some but a reach for others. You got it now?

There is a floor, where it doesn't matter how high the student's stats are.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Friend was NMSF, 1590, top 5%, tons of rigor including AP Stat and BC Calc. Applied nursing to UVA and UNC from oos. Thought scores were good enough so didn't try elsewhere. Ended up at state university but not even in nursing program.
Now....mistake was only having two reaches. And nursing makes everything unsafe.

OOS is always a crapshoot, sure, but instate, Nursing

If she's not getting into nursing instate, who is?!

Is she permanently blocked from nursing, or just has to apply after first year?

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.

They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.

1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program

They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.

I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.

CS major is just tough.

I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.

What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.

Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+

Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.

Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.

But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school

My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.

Troll elsewhere

DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.

Again, it is not the fact that they were accepted. It is the misunderstanding of what is meant by "safety."

The misunderstanding is on you, not others. A college could be a safety for some but a reach for others. You got it now?

+1 my MIT kid had UVA and Michigan as safeties.

I'm the PP with a kid who only got into UMD for CS with high stats in a magnet program.

UMD is a safety for kids in DC's peer group. These are super high achieving, high stats kids. They all see UMD as a safety, including for CS.

Now, of course, there are one offs from that peer group who don't get into UMD for CS, but that's a one off. For the vast majority in the magnet programs, UMD CP is a safety. I know of only one kid in the magnet program who didn't get into UMD for CS, and this was 3 years ago, and this kid didn't have a great GPA.

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Anonymous wrote:Yes, ended up at UMD for CS major, with merit.

They applied to 4 reaches, and 2 targets, and the one UMD safety.

1580 sat
4.0 uwgpa, 4.92 wgpa from a magnet program

They seem happy there and will do a 3+1 masters program. They are also a dual math major. So, they will graduate with 2 bachelors and 1 masters in four years, all for under $120K. Not too bad.

I know of another magnet student who also ended up in the same boat as my DC.

CS major is just tough.

I wouldn't call a computer science major at the #44 university with a top20 computer science program "true safety" by any definition of the phrase. Isn't that a reach for everyone?
i'm glad it worked out.

What makes you think the safeties and reaches are the same for everyone? Are you assuming the college application process is a true lottery? Your understanding is totally wrong.

Unless the acceptance rate into UMD (or anywhere) is 50%+, then it simply cannot be a "Safety" for anyone. The CS acceptance rate at UMD is around 16-20%. That makes it a REACH for literally everyone. Doesn't matter your stats. There will be plenty of Top stats kids who are rejected because they reject 80%+

Wrong. You either don’t know what a safety is or you don’t understand how college admissions work.

Nope, I completely understand. And the acceptance rate is a KEY part of what makes something a Reach, Target, Safety or Likely. Something with a 16% acceptance rate is NOT a safety for anyone. Just like Harvard is not a Safety for anyone (unless your family name is on a building there, and then that's a completely different story), UMD CS is not either.

But people who think like you are precisely why there will be kids who "applied to 15+ T30 schools and didn't get acceptances to any" It happens. Because when acceptance rates are sub 20% it's a reach for everyone unhooked. Vast majority in the 80%+ rejected will also have "a resume highly qualified for the school" yet they got rejected.
And applying to more Reaches doesn't increase your acceptance chances at any one school

My kid applied to UVA, UMich and GTech as safeties (all with CS/engineering) and they got in all of them.

Troll elsewhere

DP: They may not be trolling. UVA in state, Mich, GTech are all likelies (prep school defines that as 75-95% chance) for the top few stem kids in each class our of 170 students. Almost all end up choosing ivy/+ for Engineering/CS (The last 3 super stars went to Stanford, Penn Viper, MIT) but these very top kids almost always get in all 3 of the likely ones. We get detailed scoir reports and it is easy to figure out who is who since you can select by years.

Again, it is not the fact that they were accepted. It is the misunderstanding of what is meant by "safety."

The misunderstanding is on you, not others. A college could be a safety for some but a reach for others. You got it now?

Anonymous wrote:Yes.

Several male CS, engineering or business kids from our private.
Class of 2024.
Should have had a better list of schools tbh.

Anonymous wrote:Family friend applied to Ivy League and Cornell. Ended up at Stony Brook (in-state). Parents say they regret not encouraging DC to apply to more hard targets. First-year so too early to tell how it will turn out.