Anonymous wrote:I didn't have trouble on the dating market. But then again I'm conventionally attractive in the top ways OLD works for women (petite, Asian). I actually had to restrict the ages below and above me because I had too many messages. But when guys could get through, I got younger and older than I filtered for. At the time I was 40 and had some 29 year olds sneaking in.

Ask any man in his 20s about MILF. Regardless of how you look, it's a fantasy to sleep with a MILF. I am sure you are fully aware that it's not the way you look but it's about your age being older a MiLF it's fetish territory.

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Anonymous wrote:Is it really true that divorced women in their 40s are looking and/or dating younger? I don't know any of my divorced friends who are dating younger men the way some women claim it on this forum. They tend date around the same age.

I think most 40-something divorced women want to date someone around the same age and with kids around the same age as their kids. If she's an empty nester, she doesn't want to date someone with a 5-year-old. Some 40-something divorced women prefer to date younger, and they certainly can, as many men, regardless of age, are down for casual relationships with reasonably attractive women. I don't know any divorced 40-something women willing to date much, much older, though none of my divorced friends in my circle are struggling financially and looking for a man to help them. If they were, they might seek older men for financial security.

I think some people are thinking 10 to 15 years younger. Personally I don't know a single 40 years woman dating a 25 years old man. I am sure they exist. I was 25 and single at one point in life and at that age I view any woman over 30.simply too old because I can get women in their 20s without much effort

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

Except women don’t experience fertility challenges after 35.

Actually, it’s a well-known fact that women do face fertility challenges after 35. According to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, fertility starts to decline in the early 30s and drops more significantly after 35. By 40, the chances of conceiving each month are around 5%, compared to 20-25% in their 20s. Egg quality and quantity decline with age, increasing the risk of miscarriage and complications. So while pregnancy is still possible, the challenges after 35 are real and backed by medical data.

Fertility declines by 1% per year after 35, which is hardly anything. A 39 year old is pretty much as fertile as a 28 year old, on average.

Contrast that to men, whose sperm quality declines RAPIDLY with age, which is why sperm banks will not accept donations from men over age 30 or sometimes even 25.

Just biological reality, bro.

Men’s sperm quality declines slowly compared to women’s fertility. Starting at age 30, sperm motility drops by about 1% per year, so by 40, it’s around 90%, and by 60, it’s still at 70%. Compare this to women, whose chances of conceiving drop from 20% in their late 20s to about 5% by age 40. Men remain fertile much longer, even with gradual sperm quality decline.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

There aren't any good men over the age of 40 who have never been married. If they're not married by 40, there are very good reasons for that.

And if they are divorced, there are very good reasons for that, too. I think a never-married 40-year-old is infinitely better than a divorced dad, but 40-year-olds are just plain old for any woman under 35.

Anonymous wrote:Is it really true that divorced women in their 40s are looking and/or dating younger? I don't know any of my divorced friends who are dating younger men the way some women claim it on this forum. They tend date around the same age.

I think most 40-something divorced women want to date someone around the same age and with kids around the same age as their kids. If she's an empty nester, she doesn't want to date someone with a 5-year-old. Some 40-something divorced women prefer to date younger, and they certainly can, as many men, regardless of age, are down for casual relationships with reasonably attractive women. I don't know any divorced 40-something women willing to date much, much older, though none of my divorced friends in my circle are struggling financially and looking for a man to help them. If they were, they might seek older men for financial security.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

There aren't any good men over the age of 40 who have never been married. If they're not married by 40, there are very good reasons for that.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

Except women don’t experience fertility challenges after 35.

Actually, it’s a well-known fact that women do face fertility challenges after 35. According to the American College of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, fertility starts to decline in the early 30s and drops more significantly after 35. By 40, the chances of conceiving each month are around 5%, compared to 20-25% in their 20s. Egg quality and quantity decline with age, increasing the risk of miscarriage and complications. So while pregnancy is still possible, the challenges after 35 are real and backed by medical data.

Fertility declines by 1% per year after 35, which is hardly anything. A 39 year old is pretty much as fertile as a 28 year old, on average.

Contrast that to men, whose sperm quality declines RAPIDLY with age, which is why sperm banks will not accept donations from men over age 30 or sometimes even 25.

Just biological reality, bro.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

I was once a late-20s women and NONE of us were looking to date 40 year olds. Not a single one. I’m not sure why you are confusing your trashy sugar daddy fantasies with what the actual women around here do. If you’re looking to kill time with a series of 28 years for a few weeks at a time until they dump you (and you are forever known in their friend group as “that creepy old guy Sara dated for a few weeks”) then sure, maybe.

Times have definitely changed. While it might not have been common when you were in your late 20s, the 2020s dating scene is different. Many younger men are disengaging from education or careers, which leaves younger women looking for maturity and stability—qualities that older men often have. It’s not about "sugar daddy fantasies," but about compatibility, emotional readiness, and life goals. Plenty of women today are open to dating older men who provide those things. Preferences shift with the times, and what might not have been your reality isn’t necessarily true now.

Actually, younger women are LESS likely to date middle aged men than they used to, because they're terminally online and obsessed with things like power imbalances, age gaps, and grooming. Women in their twenties won't even date men in their early 30s. They think a five year age gap is toxic and abusive.
That is not to say that they won't spend time with older men for their money. These terminally online young women who pathologize everything are also materialistic, savvy and think sex work is empowering.
Lurk on some women's online forums for awhile. It's all there.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

That’s a pretty narrow take. Plenty of younger women are attracted to older men for reasons that have nothing to do with money or “psychological issues.” Maturity, emotional stability, and life experience are big draws for women in their late 20s and early 30s. Having an ex-wife or kids doesn’t automatically make a guy undesirable. Lots of blended families work just fine when people handle it maturely. It’s not all about money or baggage—it’s about compatibility, and many people make it work without needing extreme wealth or settling for unhealthy relationships.

No they're not. It's either money or psychological issues. How many women on this board were willing to date a 40-something man with an ex-wife and kids in their twenties? Not I.

That’s an awfully narrow perspective. Just because it wasn’t your preference doesn’t mean it applies universally. Plenty of younger women are attracted to older men for reasons beyond money or psychological issues. Traits like maturity, emotional stability, and life experience are highly valued, especially as younger men are often still figuring things out. It's also worth noting that blended families can and do work well, with many younger women willing to date men with kids when there's mutual respect and emotional readiness.

You may not have been willing to date a 40-something man with kids, but that doesn’t mean others aren’t. Generalizing all younger women this way isn’t fair or accurate—it’s about individual preferences, not some universal truth.

Okay, I have a twenty-something niece with friends I'm close with, and she and her friends are not dating 40-something men. They are exclusively dating other twenty-something men. Times have not changed, and I am not special. Young women don't want old, divorced dads. Some of them may want your money.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

I was once a late-20s women and NONE of us were looking to date 40 year olds. Not a single one. I’m not sure why you are confusing your trashy sugar daddy fantasies with what the actual women around here do. If you’re looking to kill time with a series of 28 years for a few weeks at a time until they dump you (and you are forever known in their friend group as “that creepy old guy Sara dated for a few weeks”) then sure, maybe.

Times have definitely changed. While it might not have been common when you were in your late 20s, the 2020s dating scene is different. Many younger men are disengaging from education or careers, which leaves younger women looking for maturity and stability—qualities that older men often have. It’s not about "sugar daddy fantasies," but about compatibility, emotional readiness, and life goals. Plenty of women today are open to dating older men who provide those things. Preferences shift with the times, and what might not have been your reality isn’t necessarily true now.

Yeah show me the data dude

Meanwhile continue with your weird daddy fantasy that you somehow provide “maturity and stability”

There’s actual data supporting the crisis among young men. The U.S. Department of Education reports that women now make up nearly 60% of college students, while men’s enrollment has dropped significantly. In addition, young men are increasingly disengaging from the workforce. A study by the Brookings Institution found that the labor force participation rate for men aged 25-34 has been declining for decades, with more young men either not working or stuck in low-wage jobs. Many are turning to video games and other forms of escapism instead of focusing on building careers.

This trend impacts relationships too. As younger men struggle with financial and emotional stability, it’s no surprise that younger women seek older, established men who offer the stability that their peers often lack.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

That’s a pretty narrow take. Plenty of younger women are attracted to older men for reasons that have nothing to do with money or “psychological issues.” Maturity, emotional stability, and life experience are big draws for women in their late 20s and early 30s. Having an ex-wife or kids doesn’t automatically make a guy undesirable. Lots of blended families work just fine when people handle it maturely. It’s not all about money or baggage—it’s about compatibility, and many people make it work without needing extreme wealth or settling for unhealthy relationships.

No they're not. It's either money or psychological issues. How many women on this board were willing to date a 40-something man with an ex-wife and kids in their twenties? Not I.

That’s an awfully narrow perspective. Just because it wasn’t your preference doesn’t mean it applies universally. Plenty of younger women are attracted to older men for reasons beyond money or psychological issues. Traits like maturity, emotional stability, and life experience are highly valued, especially as younger men are often still figuring things out. It's also worth noting that blended families can and do work well, with many younger women willing to date men with kids when there's mutual respect and emotional readiness.

You may not have been willing to date a 40-something man with kids, but that doesn’t mean others aren’t. Generalizing all younger women this way isn’t fair or accurate—it’s about individual preferences, not some universal truth.

Why in the world would you think a divorced or never married 40+ year old man has some superior qualities to the same-age men a late 20s woman could date? She wants someone optimistic, with potential, to build a life with. Not a someone 15 years older with kids and a divorce, or a commitmentphobe supposedly finally ready to start a family at 45. 45 year old guys trying to date 28 year olds are creepy, not paragons of emotional stability.

It's not about older men being "superior," but the reality is that many younger men are facing issues like lack of career direction and disengagement from education. A lot of younger women in their late 20s are looking for stability and maturity, which older men often provide. There's a growing "crisis of young men" where many aren't pursuing higher education or long-term careers, leaving them less prepared for serious relationships. So, it's not surprising that some younger women prefer older men who have already established themselves and offer emotional and financial stability.

It’s not "creepy" when both people want the same things in a relationship—compatibility matters more than age.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

I was once a late-20s women and NONE of us were looking to date 40 year olds. Not a single one. I’m not sure why you are confusing your trashy sugar daddy fantasies with what the actual women around here do. If you’re looking to kill time with a series of 28 years for a few weeks at a time until they dump you (and you are forever known in their friend group as “that creepy old guy Sara dated for a few weeks”) then sure, maybe.

Times have definitely changed. While it might not have been common when you were in your late 20s, the 2020s dating scene is different. Many younger men are disengaging from education or careers, which leaves younger women looking for maturity and stability—qualities that older men often have. It’s not about "sugar daddy fantasies," but about compatibility, emotional readiness, and life goals. Plenty of women today are open to dating older men who provide those things. Preferences shift with the times, and what might not have been your reality isn’t necessarily true now.

Yeah show me the data dude

Meanwhile continue with your weird daddy fantasy that you somehow provide “maturity and stability”

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

I was once a late-20s women and NONE of us were looking to date 40 year olds. Not a single one. I’m not sure why you are confusing your trashy sugar daddy fantasies with what the actual women around here do. If you’re looking to kill time with a series of 28 years for a few weeks at a time until they dump you (and you are forever known in their friend group as “that creepy old guy Sara dated for a few weeks”) then sure, maybe.

Times have definitely changed. While it might not have been common when you were in your late 20s, the 2020s dating scene is different. Many younger men are disengaging from education or careers, which leaves younger women looking for maturity and stability—qualities that older men often have. It’s not about "sugar daddy fantasies," but about compatibility, emotional readiness, and life goals. Plenty of women today are open to dating older men who provide those things. Preferences shift with the times, and what might not have been your reality isn’t necessarily true now.

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Anonymous wrote:I am 32 and single. I think women in their 40s are beautiful. But women in their 30s still find me attractive and I prefer dating them. If a divorced woman in her 40s were to approach me, would I date her? No. Not because she is old, it's because women my own age still want to date me. Everytime I go on OLD I don't have an issue finding dates. But right now I am solely focus on building myself and dating is not on my radar.

So no one is talking about you dude. 32 is young. I agree with you. You will probably be married by your late 30s so its a moot point anyway. But single men in their late 30s have much fewer options than you at 32.

Life comes at you fast. People on this board love to talk about how women are dried up by their late 30s but trust me, if you are a man who is never married in your late 30s there’s a huge stigma for a lot of a lot of women below 35… why hasn’t some hottie snapped you up?

My friends in their 40s who are dating younger men, the topic of this thread, are mostly dating mid to late 30s or early 40s divorced guys. No one is talking about a 32 year-old never married single guy.

Not really, there is a small pool of men looking for late 30s women its a weird age because they are almost too old for a family and need to come to terms with that and date older men who are already divorced with kids or are looking not to start a family. Most men in their 40s are either divorced with kids or are at a point where their career is established and are looking to start a family. If it's the later it will be seeking a younger woman in prime children bearing age which is late 20s and early 30s.

No, actually people date in their age range. 20 something women are not looking to date 40+ men. A 40+ man who is “looking to start a family” all of a sudden missed the boat, the same way a 40+ in that scenario did. But if he’s sincere, the best way to settle down would actually be to find a woman in her mid to late 30s.

Thats incorrect, a man 40+ can still have children without issues a woman after 35 faces fertility challenges so its not the same, sorry. Look at David grohl he got someone pregnant and they are having a child and he is 55

Mr Divorced Middle Aged Schlub, just because Dave Grohl, a rock star, did something, it doesn’t apply to you.

Sure, most of us aren't rock stars like Dave Grohl, but biology doesn't change just because someone isn't famous. The reality is that men can have children well into their 40s and beyond without facing the same fertility challenges that women do after 35. It's not just about celebrity examples—this is basic biology. Men can still be very much in demand by younger women, especially when they're established, successful, and looking to start a family. Women, on the other hand, face more time-sensitive fertility concerns. That's why men in their 40s often seek partners in their late 20s and early 30s when considering starting a family. It’s not just social, it’s biological.

If he doesn't have kids and an ex-wife, a good-looking, established 40-something is attractive to women in their late 20s and early 30s. If he has the aforementioned baggage, he is either bringing so much money to the table that a younger woman is willing to put up with some significant compromises, or the only younger women he attracts are those with psychological issues.

That’s a pretty narrow take. Plenty of younger women are attracted to older men for reasons that have nothing to do with money or “psychological issues.” Maturity, emotional stability, and life experience are big draws for women in their late 20s and early 30s. Having an ex-wife or kids doesn’t automatically make a guy undesirable. Lots of blended families work just fine when people handle it maturely. It’s not all about money or baggage—it’s about compatibility, and many people make it work without needing extreme wealth or settling for unhealthy relationships.

No they're not. It's either money or psychological issues. How many women on this board were willing to date a 40-something man with an ex-wife and kids in their twenties? Not I.

That’s an awfully narrow perspective. Just because it wasn’t your preference doesn’t mean it applies universally. Plenty of younger women are attracted to older men for reasons beyond money or psychological issues. Traits like maturity, emotional stability, and life experience are highly valued, especially as younger men are often still figuring things out. It's also worth noting that blended families can and do work well, with many younger women willing to date men with kids when there's mutual respect and emotional readiness.

You may not have been willing to date a 40-something man with kids, but that doesn’t mean others aren’t. Generalizing all younger women this way isn’t fair or accurate—it’s about individual preferences, not some universal truth.

Why in the world would you think a divorced or never married 40+ year old man has some superior qualities to the same-age men a late 20s woman could date? She wants someone optimistic, with potential, to build a life with. Not a someone 15 years older with kids and a divorce, or a commitmentphobe supposedly finally ready to start a family at 45. 45 year old guys trying to date 28 year olds are creepy, not paragons of emotional stability.

Next time someone on this forum says that women value themselves too highly, I’d like to note that today, alone, some balding middle aged guy with a dad bod said he married a model and has high physical standards because of that and told us whether his dates were “modelesque.” Another off-handedly compared himself to the legend, Dave Grohl.