Anonymous
Post 10/19/2024 18:16     Subject: Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

English is not the national language, dumb dumb.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2024 18:14     Subject: Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

Many US citizens speak (and prefer) Spanish. Arizona has had Spanish language ballots and government forms since at least the 1970s when I moved there. This is a weird thread!
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2024 09:11     Subject: Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

I work in a hospital; many of our Spanish-speaking only patients are US citizens; they have Medicare and social security numbers, and I use an interpreter when I speak with them.
Anonymous
Post 10/19/2024 08:50     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

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Anonymous wrote:People asked this 20 years ago, and its as perplexing today as then.

Almost all election content is in English, outside of a few targeted adds here and there. So either this is pure virtue signaling, or very low information voters are voting. Not sure which is worse.


You might be perplexed, but most people are not perplexed. Maybe you're one of those very low information voters you're worried about?


Maybe I am, but I'm willing to learn. Where are non-English speaking voters getting information about things like bond issuances, Board of Education positions, initiatives and the like?


Find some to ask, and ask them.

Or mind your own business.


So I should find someone that doesn't speak English and ask them in English where they get their information on how to vote on a bond?


Minding your own business is always an option.


I'll take this as an admission that non-English voters are overwhelmingly low-info, with many probably voting as instructed by some community power broker. Which is hardly an ideal state if you want functional democracy, justifying the suspicion people have of this practice.


I take it you're in favor of abolishing Fox News based on the bolded language?


Why does the truth about non-English voters get under your skin so much? If they started to vote "the other way" you would start treating them just like you do Fox News voters. You only defend the practice because you benefit from it.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 22:51     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People asked this 20 years ago, and its as perplexing today as then.

Almost all election content is in English, outside of a few targeted adds here and there. So either this is pure virtue signaling, or very low information voters are voting. Not sure which is worse.


You might be perplexed, but most people are not perplexed. Maybe you're one of those very low information voters you're worried about?


Maybe I am, but I'm willing to learn. Where are non-English speaking voters getting information about things like bond issuances, Board of Education positions, initiatives and the like?


Find some to ask, and ask them.

Or mind your own business.


So I should find someone that doesn't speak English and ask them in English where they get their information on how to vote on a bond?


Minding your own business is always an option.


I'll take this as an admission that non-English voters are overwhelmingly low-info, with many probably voting as instructed by some community power broker. Which is hardly an ideal state if you want functional democracy, justifying the suspicion people have of this practice.


I take it you're in favor of abolishing Fox News based on the bolded language?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 22:36     Subject: Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

OP is such a horrible racist. It's disgusting.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 22:23     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

No national language, which is kind of fascinating.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 22:10     Subject: Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

The U.S. does not have an official language - https://www.usa.gov/official-language-of-us
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 20:27     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People asked this 20 years ago, and its as perplexing today as then.

Almost all election content is in English, outside of a few targeted adds here and there. So either this is pure virtue signaling, or very low information voters are voting. Not sure which is worse.


You might be perplexed, but most people are not perplexed. Maybe you're one of those very low information voters you're worried about?


Maybe I am, but I'm willing to learn. Where are non-English speaking voters getting information about things like bond issuances, Board of Education positions, initiatives and the like?


Find some to ask, and ask them.

Or mind your own business.


So I should find someone that doesn't speak English and ask them in English where they get their information on how to vote on a bond?


Minding your own business is always an option.


I'll take this as an admission that non-English voters are overwhelmingly low-info, with many probably voting as instructed by some community power broker. Which is hardly an ideal state if you want functional democracy, justifying the suspicion people have of this practice.


You sound extremely limited and kind of stuck. Do you really not know how much information and media is available in languages other than English?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 20:25     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

Anonymous wrote:People asked this 20 years ago, and its as perplexing today as then.

Almost all election content is in English, outside of a few targeted adds here and there. So either this is pure virtue signaling, or very low information voters are voting. Not sure which is worse.


Personally, I consulted the League of Women Voters guides, among other sources of information, before I vote.
OP, I’m sure you’ll be thrilled to know that they have the guides in both English and Spanish.

https://www.lwvmocomd.org/content.aspx?page_id=22&club_id=513039&module_id=547387
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 20:20     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People asked this 20 years ago, and its as perplexing today as then.

Almost all election content is in English, outside of a few targeted adds here and there. So either this is pure virtue signaling, or very low information voters are voting. Not sure which is worse.


You might be perplexed, but most people are not perplexed. Maybe you're one of those very low information voters you're worried about?


Maybe I am, but I'm willing to learn. Where are non-English speaking voters getting information about things like bond issuances, Board of Education positions, initiatives and the like?


Here’s one more thing for you to be perplexed by: Reading fluency and speaking fluency are not the same thing. Someone might be a fluent speaker but not read at the level of their speaking skills — and vice versa. Here’s another thing that might shake you: non-English speaking voters might be getting information about local issues from multiple types of media in their strongest language. Yes, there are podcasts and radio shows and cable broadcasts and websites in languages other than English.

Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 18:07     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People asked this 20 years ago, and its as perplexing today as then.

Almost all election content is in English, outside of a few targeted adds here and there. So either this is pure virtue signaling, or very low information voters are voting. Not sure which is worse.


You might be perplexed, but most people are not perplexed. Maybe you're one of those very low information voters you're worried about?


Maybe I am, but I'm willing to learn. Where are non-English speaking voters getting information about things like bond issuances, Board of Education positions, initiatives and the like?


Find some to ask, and ask them.

Or mind your own business.


So I should find someone that doesn't speak English and ask them in English where they get their information on how to vote on a bond?


Minding your own business is always an option.


I'll take this as an admission that non-English voters are overwhelmingly low-info, with many probably voting as instructed by some community power broker. Which is hardly an ideal state if you want functional democracy, justifying the suspicion people have of this practice.


You can take it as an admission that you don't want to mind your own business.

There is no requirement for voting that voters must know as much as you decide is appropriate, no matter what language is on the ballot the voters use. If you're worried about low-information voters, you can go join one of the many organizations that provides information to voters.
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 16:31     Subject: Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

When questions like this come up, I have to wonder if OP has ever voted or even seen a ballot before. Is this your first time voting, OP?
Anonymous
Post 10/18/2024 16:29     Subject: Re:Why is the MoCo election ballot in english and spanish? Only citizens can vote, right?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People asked this 20 years ago, and its as perplexing today as then.

Almost all election content is in English, outside of a few targeted adds here and there. So either this is pure virtue signaling, or very low information voters are voting. Not sure which is worse.


You might be perplexed, but most people are not perplexed. Maybe you're one of those very low information voters you're worried about?


Maybe I am, but I'm willing to learn. Where are non-English speaking voters getting information about things like bond issuances, Board of Education positions, initiatives and the like?


Find some to ask, and ask them.

Or mind your own business.


So I should find someone that doesn't speak English and ask them in English where they get their information on how to vote on a bond?


Minding your own business is always an option.


I'll take this as an admission that non-English voters are overwhelmingly low-info, with many probably voting as instructed by some community power broker. Which is hardly an ideal state if you want functional democracy, justifying the suspicion people have of this practice.