Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me resolve to start vocally complaining when I see dogs at grocery stores and in coffee shops and on playgrounds or outside the school entrance. I have been fairly silent because I don't want to get called a Karen but at this point I don't care. Based on the current definition of Karen (which appears to be "woman over the age of 35 who dares to have opinions at all") I guess I am one so I might as well embrace it.

In this case the Karens are right and I'm at the point where I don't care if all the dog people hate me. Perhaps it will force them to keep their dogs out of my face instead of thinking I'm dying to pet and hang out with their untrained and over-excited pit mix while he sheds in my food or blocks my grocery cart in the produce section.

When you call main office for any of these places and they ask your name, just say Karen. Last name can be Karen too. Everyone who calls anywhere to report, do the same.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me resolve to start vocally complaining when I see dogs at grocery stores and in coffee shops and on playgrounds or outside the school entrance. I have been fairly silent because I don't want to get called a Karen but at this point I don't care. Based on the current definition of Karen (which appears to be "woman over the age of 35 who dares to have opinions at all") I guess I am one so I might as well embrace it.

In this case the Karens are right and I'm at the point where I don't care if all the dog people hate me. Perhaps it will force them to keep their dogs out of my face instead of thinking I'm dying to pet and hang out with their untrained and over-excited pit mix while he sheds in my food or blocks my grocery cart in the produce section.

Now you’re just lying. You have literally never had a pit mix shed in your food. WTF Karen

Of course she has -- 90% of the dogs in my neighborhood are pit mixes and people constantly bring them into Whole Foods where there's a hot bar or into coffee shops or into the market where there are food stalls. We've all had a pit mix shed in our food! We're all eating dog hair and dander all the time because the dog owners are lawless jerks.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe this for a second.

Ditto. I’m literally a crazy dog lady who has worked in dog rescue for many years and always has multiple dogs at home, and I have never encountered dogs in a supermarket or restaurant. It would never occur for me to take a dog to any of these places. It is often stressful for dogs to be in those situations, and I also realize that many people are allergic to them or don’t like them. I think you’re a troll.

NP. Just because you haven't seen it (yet) doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I have two dogs currently, and have owned dogs for most of my life. (Point being I love dogs).

I have seen dogs in the Starbucks in Potomac, in the Safeway in Potomac, and in the Giant in McLean. None of them were service animals. I have also seen people take dogs into shops that have large "No dogs allowed" signs, and the people in the shops do nothing--even when asked about it.

And yet nothing actually happened to you. What’s the problem?

That's your takeaway? You're really not bright, are you? Maybe you should read it all again so you can draw the correct conclusion. Hint: Of course nothing happened to me, nor did I imply that.

Yeah that is my takeaway. That’s the most important point. Mind your own business.

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Anonymous wrote:And yet if you complain to management, you are a Karen. If you don't say anything, you are going to stew all night and post on DCUM. If you confront the dog owner, you may end up dead like that guy who got punched out outside a restaurant recently.

Now you’re sooo close to getting there but you can’t quite make the leap to simply minding your own business and practicing basic tolerance of others. You live in a complex world that is mot designed to satisfy your personal desires.

No one has to tolerate health code violations dumbo. It is not a "personal desire" -- it's the law and it exists for good reasons. If you don't like the law you are welcome to go try and get them changed but until then your dog doesn't belong in the grocery store and it's not intolerant complain loudly and often until you STOP bringing it there.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe this for a second.

Ditto. I’m literally a crazy dog lady who has worked in dog rescue for many years and always has multiple dogs at home, and I have never encountered dogs in a supermarket or restaurant. It would never occur for me to take a dog to any of these places. It is often stressful for dogs to be in those situations, and I also realize that many people are allergic to them or don’t like them. I think you’re a troll.

Do you live in Germantown and have to drive to every errand?
I live in downtown Bethesda and can vouch it’s constant and disgusting. Dogs in Harris Teeter, Trader Joes (despite signs the Manager has apparently given up). I do like them parading through as quick mobile order pick ups in Sbux. Keep your dogs out of places where food is prepared. And, I’m a dog owner. For the person complaining about apartments - that’s on the management too. Yes owners suck, but the property managers need to be cleaning that urine accumulation appropriately (especially in the heat).

I agree it’s related to walkable areas. People decide to pop in for errands while taking their dog for a walk. I’ve seen several dogs in the Merrifield Target.

Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me resolve to start vocally complaining when I see dogs at grocery stores and in coffee shops and on playgrounds or outside the school entrance. I have been fairly silent because I don't want to get called a Karen but at this point I don't care. Based on the current definition of Karen (which appears to be "woman over the age of 35 who dares to have opinions at all") I guess I am one so I might as well embrace it.

In this case the Karens are right and I'm at the point where I don't care if all the dog people hate me. Perhaps it will force them to keep their dogs out of my face instead of thinking I'm dying to pet and hang out with their untrained and over-excited pit mix while he sheds in my food or blocks my grocery cart in the produce section.

Now you’re just lying. You have literally never had a pit mix shed in your food. WTF Karen

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Anonymous wrote:Listen you moronic dog owners,

DOGS ARE ILLEGAL IN ALL FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, PERIOD.

You may NOT bring your stupid fur baby into any cafe, restaurant, bar, brewery, grocery store, or anywhere else where food is prepped and sold. The only exemption DC has is for outdoor areas. It doesn't matter what establishment ownership says either, it is literally FDA food code that live animals cannot be in food establishments. DC, MD, and VA have adopted FDA food code.

Keep your stupid dogs at home or outside. No, they're allowed inside the cafe where I'm getting my coffee. Just because their is mass ignorance of the law and lack of enforcement doesn't make it right. You're breaking the law and so is the food establishment.

I'll take a dog over a gross crackhead any day of the week

It's not an either-or and in fact people flouting rules by bringing dogs places they shouldn't be contributes to an overall sense of lawlessness in my neighborhood. I see dogs and panhandlers and drug addicts in stores near me and it just contributes to this feeling like people who follow rules (both actual rules and social norms) are not valued and we're suckers for actually thinking of how our actions impact others.

On any given day it's a toss up as to which will be grosser and more discourteous in my neighborhood: the many drug addicts or the dog owners. Take that in.

You seem to have a problem with other people in general. That’s your own personal issue that you can address. Public places are going to expose you to the vast diversity of the human experience. Why would you expect anything else?

This thread has made me resolve to start vocally complaining when I see dogs at grocery stores and in coffee shops and on playgrounds or outside the school entrance. I have been fairly silent because I don't want to get called a Karen but at this point I don't care. Based on the current definition of Karen (which appears to be "woman over the age of 35 who dares to have opinions at all") I guess I am one so I might as well embrace it.

In this case the Karens are right and I'm at the point where I don't care if all the dog people hate me. Perhaps it will force them to keep their dogs out of my face instead of thinking I'm dying to pet and hang out with their untrained and over-excited pit mix while he sheds in my food or blocks my grocery cart in the produce section.

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I was on a TGV fast train in France this weekend. There was a tough looking guy with tattoos sitting opposite us with the cutest looking Sydney Silky with a sequined leash sitting in the seat beside him. The ticket conductor didn't bat an eyelid about the dog on the seat, and the dog looked like he did this all the time.

At least the dog wasn't coughing its lungs out like the woman behind us.

I'm so sick of people who think it's ok to admit they like dogs more than people. You're not special.

I definitely like dogs more than many people. People, by and large, suck. Why is that not OK to admit? I don't think that makes me special, just realistic.

No dear. It makes you pathetic. And probably a terrible dog owner.

How is that pathetic? 90% of humans are morons with a sub high school education. My dog is definitely more emotionally intelligent than you, Janice.

Your intelligence is shining through with every word you write. It's amazing that with all that emotional intelligence your dog hasn't taught you how to get along with humans.

Saw a guy with a dog at a chipotle in CT. Wasn't a service dog either..ew people were sitting right there eating at a table by the counter when he pulled up with dog in tow. Contact headquarters.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t believe this for a second.

Ditto. I’m literally a crazy dog lady who has worked in dog rescue for many years and always has multiple dogs at home, and I have never encountered dogs in a supermarket or restaurant. It would never occur for me to take a dog to any of these places. It is often stressful for dogs to be in those situations, and I also realize that many people are allergic to them or don’t like them. I think you’re a troll.

NP. Just because you haven't seen it (yet) doesn't mean it doesn't happen. I have two dogs currently, and have owned dogs for most of my life. (Point being I love dogs).

I have seen dogs in the Starbucks in Potomac, in the Safeway in Potomac, and in the Giant in McLean. None of them were service animals. I have also seen people take dogs into shops that have large "No dogs allowed" signs, and the people in the shops do nothing--even when asked about it.

And yet nothing actually happened to you. What’s the problem?

That's your takeaway? You're really not bright, are you? Maybe you should read it all again so you can draw the correct conclusion. Hint: Of course nothing happened to me, nor did I imply that.

Anonymous wrote:And yet if you complain to management, you are a Karen. If you don't say anything, you are going to stew all night and post on DCUM. If you confront the dog owner, you may end up dead like that guy who got punched out outside a restaurant recently.

Now you’re sooo close to getting there but you can’t quite make the leap to simply minding your own business and practicing basic tolerance of others. You live in a complex world that is mot designed to satisfy your personal desires.

Anonymous wrote:Same, OP. Same.

When dog nutters compare dogs to kids, you know they're batsh!t insane. I don't even have kids, but if you make any kind of analogy, you've lost your freakin' mind long ago.

We passed some baseline and very fair dog rules in our condo building recently (it's a newer building and it previously had no rules for dogs because there were no dogs). They were really limited and basic -- stuff like clean up your dog's poop and deposit in an appropriate trash can and don't let dogs block building common areas.

All of the dog owners in the building were fine with the rules EXCEPT this insane couple whose behavior is likely what prompted the board to create the rules in the first place (guess who'd been leaving dog $hit in common areas and letting their dogs run wild in the building's lobby). They had a bona fide meltdown at the meeting where we voted on the rules and the gist of their argument was that the rules were unfair because they discriminated against people with dogs but not people with kids. There are two very young kids in the building (a baby and like a preschooler in different apartments). And they were serious. It was like "how dare you tell me my dog must be on a leash in the lobby when there are no rules that babies must be leashed in the lobby.

It got shut down fast when a board member pointed out that dogs and children don't have the same rights and that it would be legal for the building to ban dogs from the building altogether if we wanted to but that if you tried to do this with children you'd get sued because that would violate a number of federal and local laws. So thankfully sanity prevailed. But the nutty dog couple really showed their a$$es and now we all know they are insane so that's been interesting.

I love dogs and I still get annoyed seeing people bring dogs everywhere. I don't mind them on restaurant patios, but all of the ones I have seen just lie under or next to the table and tend to be practically invisible. My dog would not be like that, which is why I don't bring him to restaurants. In your situation, I would have complained to management.

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Anonymous wrote:Listen you moronic dog owners,

DOGS ARE ILLEGAL IN ALL FOOD ESTABLISHMENTS, PERIOD.

You may NOT bring your stupid fur baby into any cafe, restaurant, bar, brewery, grocery store, or anywhere else where food is prepped and sold. The only exemption DC has is for outdoor areas. It doesn't matter what establishment ownership says either, it is literally FDA food code that live animals cannot be in food establishments. DC, MD, and VA have adopted FDA food code.

Keep your stupid dogs at home or outside. No, they're allowed inside the cafe where I'm getting my coffee. Just because their is mass ignorance of the law and lack of enforcement doesn't make it right. You're breaking the law and so is the food establishment.

This statement will make me bring my dog into Starbucks this weekend. Thank you for your irrational rant. Write me up.

Not the PP but you calling PP irrational while proclaiming how you're going to break the law this weekend is pure gold.