Anonymous
10/08/2024 17:10
Subject: Re:Hurricane Milton
OP again.
Milton is once again at category 5, max sustained winds of 165mph and minimum pressure of 918mb.
Models are still unsure about timing of landfall, and how much potential weakening there could be before landfall.
Milton is not expected to greatly strengthen between now and landfall, because it is already very close to its theoretical strength maximum given current water temp/wind conditions at its location. Of course, it's the first category 5 hurricane in recorded history in the Gulf going from west to east, so... what other new stuff can it do?
Anonymous
10/08/2024 16:57
Subject: Hurricane Milton
So 2 am high tide Wednesday. Storm making landfall at 9 am ish. The winds and cost of Florida will hold that high tide water on the coast. Add a storm surge to the high tide.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 16:48
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:I am on the east side but my sister just moved near Ft Myers and is in the cone. She is furiously cooking meals, washing and boarding up. We are Floridans and these are not the hurricanes that we remember. She is buying bleach just in case to purify water, which I never knew about. Since her house is on the newer side, I am hoping that it was built with hurricane guidelines.
Why doesn’t she evacuate?
Anonymous
10/08/2024 14:42
Subject: Re:Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My SIL also plans to cook all day today, which I don't understand since they'll most certainly lose power. Unless she's baking bread and brownies (I think she's making stews, etc)
My sister has a generator
Generators don't do much if you don't have access to gas. Plus after a hurricane you need to be able to run them for a long period of time. Reports are that the area is already out of gas. That means trucks need to make it back down there to refill the lines, assuming they are able to do so in a timely fashion and that the gas stations themself are not damaged.
Exactly. Most people can't store enough gas to last long enough to keep things going with these outages. I have family in Ga and they were without power for over a week. They have generators and gas but you'll go through gas faster than you expect. Very quickly they were spending a lot of time hunting for gas. For those of you who haven't lived through long power outages, gas becomes impossible to find and more expensive like toilet paper/paper towels during covid.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 14:09
Subject: Re:Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My SIL also plans to cook all day today, which I don't understand since they'll most certainly lose power. Unless she's baking bread and brownies (I think she's making stews, etc)
My sister has a generator
Generators don't do much if you don't have access to gas. Plus after a hurricane you need to be able to run them for a long period of time. Reports are that the area is already out of gas. That means trucks need to make it back down there to refill the lines, assuming they are able to do so in a timely fashion and that the gas stations themself are not damaged.
DP. Yes, that's known. Why are you arguing with someone on the internet about their sibling's generator? They will have checked it to see that it is in good working order, have several days-worth of fuel on hand, have water supplies, etc. Or they haven't.
No one is arguing. Feel free to move on. None of the information posted was incorrect.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 14:01
Subject: Re:Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My SIL also plans to cook all day today, which I don't understand since they'll most certainly lose power. Unless she's baking bread and brownies (I think she's making stews, etc)
My sister has a generator
Generators don't do much if you don't have access to gas. Plus after a hurricane you need to be able to run them for a long period of time. Reports are that the area is already out of gas. That means trucks need to make it back down there to refill the lines, assuming they are able to do so in a timely fashion and that the gas stations themself are not damaged.
DP. Yes, that's known. Why are you arguing with someone on the internet about their sibling's generator? They will have checked it to see that it is in good working order, have several days-worth of fuel on hand, have water supplies, etc. Or they haven't.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 13:59
Subject: Re:Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My SIL also plans to cook all day today, which I don't understand since they'll most certainly lose power. Unless she's baking bread and brownies (I think she's making stews, etc)
My sister has a generator
Generators don't do much if you don't have access to gas. Plus after a hurricane you need to be able to run them for a long period of time. Reports are that the area is already out of gas. That means trucks need to make it back down there to refill the lines, assuming they are able to do so in a timely fashion and that the gas stations themself are not damaged.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 13:58
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:where is the evacuation zone? Just tampa proper? How far inland?
hmm, I wonder if there's like a website that shows this?
I also can't find it.
Google your county name and the words evacuation zones.
I found our family's property in Zone A for Manatee County right away.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 13:17
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:where is the evacuation zone? Just tampa proper? How far inland?
hmm, I wonder if there's like a website that shows this?
I also can't find it.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 11:57
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:The longer it takes to make landfall the better as it avoids the hightide of 2p and the stronger the odds are the cold front/shear impacts the hurricane to diminish its strength. The more north it hits, the better for Tampa and the more southern, the more surge for them. I don't know that it really matters where it hits however in that there will definitely be a surge there and the N is where Helene had made more impact so for them it's a bit more sad it's 2x hurricane.
I have a feeling it will not be as bad I don't know why. I've had a feeling since yesterday that the shear and cold front will quickly diminish this from a cat 4 to a 2 or even 1 because shear completely destroys the rotating force of a hurricane. It doesn't wipe out surge but the lowering of the winds will do a lot to help things. I just get a feeling that it won't be as bad as everyone thinks it will be and I also have a feeling that Tampa will get lucky again in not being hit directly by this. I just think that it peaked last night as a cat 5 with 899. The rest of the way up it will meet a lot of factors that isn't helping it maintain/grow.
Phew! Cancel the evacuation, everyone! No need to take any precautions, anonymous PP has a feeling!
Idiot.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 11:40
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:But you know, living in FL by the coasts...it's a matter of time. I just simple don't get people who live where you KNOW there are hurricanes coming every damn year. It's really rolling the dice and hoping for the best EVERY damn year.
Same in CA - You KNOW there is an earthquake coming. Or, you KNOW there are wildfires and if you live in an area where it's all wooded and there's a drought and it's that hot and this is happening everywhere around you..hmmm..wonder what will happen to me???!
OF COURSE, there is no 100% safe place to live but I'm just saying, if every year, you find these disasters happening v. once every 5 years, that's a different story but these days??
Even to a degree moving to the mountains. Nobody could have I supposed predicted Helene in W NC but if you live in the mountains, it's not exactly the safest place to live. Just saying - I would never move to remote towns in the mountains to live and not understand that I'm taking some risks whenever there's weather. Us humans are pretty fragile beings. We are totally at the mercy of nature.
Ok but couldn’t people say well if you chose to live near DC you knew an attack could happen at some point? There really isn’t anywhere risk free.
I agree that living right along a coast line is crazy in this day and age. But it’s not like inland FL should be deserted.
COAST LINE v inland are different. Inland is no prob but come on - coast line of Florida is rolling the dice. In terms of risk..I am thinking a hurricane 1x a yr or more v WW3. I'm going to say that the risk is statistically lower with the latter. Risk is just that - statistical analysis or frequency of it happening. You really think that getting blown up in DC by a missile is somehow as possible or more possible than being in the way of a hurricane from June1-Nov1 every single year???? For real?
Anonymous
10/08/2024 11:05
Subject: Re:Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:My SIL also plans to cook all day today, which I don't understand since they'll most certainly lose power. Unless she's baking bread and brownies (I think she's making stews, etc)
My sister has a generator
Anonymous
10/08/2024 10:58
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:But you know, living in FL by the coasts...it's a matter of time. I just simple don't get people who live where you KNOW there are hurricanes coming every damn year. It's really rolling the dice and hoping for the best EVERY damn year.
Same in CA - You KNOW there is an earthquake coming. Or, you KNOW there are wildfires and if you live in an area where it's all wooded and there's a drought and it's that hot and this is happening everywhere around you..hmmm..wonder what will happen to me???!
OF COURSE, there is no 100% safe place to live but I'm just saying, if every year, you find these disasters happening v. once every 5 years, that's a different story but these days??
Even to a degree moving to the mountains. Nobody could have I supposed predicted Helene in W NC but if you live in the mountains, it's not exactly the safest place to live. Just saying - I would never move to remote towns in the mountains to live and not understand that I'm taking some risks whenever there's weather. Us humans are pretty fragile beings. We are totally at the mercy of nature.
Ok but couldn’t people say well if you chose to live near DC you knew an attack could happen at some point? There really isn’t anywhere risk free.
I agree that living right along a coast line is crazy in this day and age. But it’s not like inland FL should be deserted.
Anonymous
10/08/2024 10:58
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:I am on the east side but my sister just moved near Ft Myers and is in the cone. She is furiously cooking meals, washing and boarding up. We are Floridans and these are not the hurricanes that we remember. She is buying bleach just in case to purify water, which I never knew about. Since her house is on the newer side, I am hoping that it was built with hurricane guidelines.
This!
Anonymous
10/08/2024 10:55
Subject: Hurricane Milton
Anonymous wrote:What I never get is that the hurricane timing infallibly moves to half a day, if not a day later than expected. It's systematic with every storm. Now it's moved from Wednesday 8 am to Thursday 2 am. Maybe it's to err on the side of caution so people get prepared, but my county cancelled school a day too early.
I can not believe you are whining about this.
Do you know how many employers won't let employees off work to leave in a reasonable amount of time to evacuate? Do you know what it's like working a service job where everyone expects employees to be available right up to the storm landing? These estimates help people evacuate. I don't think people understand how many roadblocks are put in people's lives to stop them from leaving at a reasonable time. Waze showed the huge amount of bumper to bumper, standstill traffic all night last night of people trying to leave. Thank God they had that extra "half day" to get out. There is little more dangerous than being trapped in your car through a hurricane.