Anonymous
09/26/2024 12:08
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
This is so offensive. I am Catholic and send my kids to Catholic school. The people who are not Catholic have often chosen the school because it offers things that the public schools do not - phonics based instruction, arithmetic, cursive, and similar. It also has a lot more rules and expectations of conduct, as well as a big focus on virtues.
This is so weird. I mean, imagine thinking phonics is a desirable teaching method or caring about cursive in 2024… Talk about outdated curricula.
But whatever.
This notion that publics don’t teach arithmetic is hilarious though.
Look, I could see the value of going to a private school with a distinctly different approach — say, inquiry-based, game-based, a flipped classroom or some other pedagogy not found in your typical public school.
But phonics??? And cursive??? Saying you want phonics and cursive as if those are some kind of differentiator instead of the regressive methods they are deny that you’re just trying to avoid the brown and disabled kids?
Milk came out of my nose I was laughing so hard.
I cannot believe someone justifies private school tuition for <checks notes> … phonics.
lol
Anonymous
09/26/2024 11:55
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
Nope. Non-catholic here and are considering Catholic elementary because they have direct instruction of Phonics, spelling, grammar, cursive hand writing and more - many areas where our local public elementary simply does not offer direct instruction to students.
The Catholic schools were among the few schools which were not contaminated by the now widely discredited Lucy Calkins crap.
If you teach your kid to read yourself, then it doesn't matter what reading curriculum the school uses for early grades. That Lucy Calkins and 3-cueing and wholistic word memorization crap doesn't hurt the kids who already can read.
As someone who finally switched my kids to private after teaching my kids to read, and to spell, and making sure they had enriching science and history books to read at home....I'm so glad to be at a private. I'll still keep doing the many things I did on some level. But now when my kids have an issue, the school helps. There are math and reading specialists who actually make time to help on-level or advanced kids as well as kids who are behind. My kids can go to a writing lab or get math homework help for free. The curriculum includes grammar, vocabulary, and spelling so I no longer have to try and fit those things in after the kids have already had a long day.
Yes, parents can, should, and often do make up for the gaps in public. But you know what? Sometimes it's nice to not have to.
And of course not every kid has a parent capable of teaching them to read. For those kids, the curriculum does matter.
Ugh, my kids are little (not in school yet) but this is what I struggle with. I know that going the public route will mean *a lot* of supplementing, especially by me, but going the private route is $$$$$.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 08:56
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Our friends switched their DD and DS from our local public to Catholic school this year and won't stop trashing the public. Our kids still go there and we are happy with it! They have made comments about how there are fewer kids with IEPs and behavioral issues and that the education is better. They have even said we are going to have to supplement for our kids to keep pace with theirs.
I'm glad they're happy but I find these comments totally obnoxious and it makes me want to stop seeing them. I also don't know now you determine that the education is superior less than a month in. I am kind of dumbfounded that they have said this multiple times.
Am I off base to find this obnoxious? I want to address this directly the next time. Like "hey I'm glad you're happy but we have chosen to stay at the school and it's not cool that you keep disparaging it." Or should I just ignore?
So, just stop seeing them. It's not an airport -- no need to announce your departure.
They're doing it because they have to justify to themselves wasting money on private school education.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 08:55
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
This is so offensive. I am Catholic and send my kids to Catholic school. The people who are not Catholic have often chosen the school because it offers things that the public schools do not - phonics based instruction, arithmetic, cursive, and similar. It also has a lot more rules and expectations of conduct, as well as a big focus on virtues.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 08:42
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
Nope. Non-catholic here and are considering Catholic elementary because they have direct instruction of Phonics, spelling, grammar, cursive hand writing and more - many areas where our local public elementary simply does not offer direct instruction to students.
The Catholic schools were among the few schools which were not contaminated by the now widely discredited Lucy Calkins crap.
If you teach your kid to read yourself, then it doesn't matter what reading curriculum the school uses for early grades. That Lucy Calkins and 3-cueing and wholistic word memorization crap doesn't hurt the kids who already can read.
As someone who finally switched my kids to private after teaching my kids to read, and to spell, and making sure they had enriching science and history books to read at home....I'm so glad to be at a private. I'll still keep doing the many things I did on some level. But now when my kids have an issue, the school helps. There are math and reading specialists who actually make time to help on-level or advanced kids as well as kids who are behind. My kids can go to a writing lab or get math homework help for free. The curriculum includes grammar, vocabulary, and spelling so I no longer have to try and fit those things in after the kids have already had a long day.
Yes, parents can, should, and often do make up for the gaps in public. But you know what? Sometimes it's nice to not have to.
And of course not every kid has a parent capable of teaching them to read. For those kids, the curriculum does matter.
Anonymous
09/26/2024 08:34
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
Correct. If a classroom is full of kids who can’t speak English, can’t read, or can’t behave, I’d prefer to put my child in a different educational setting. Is that bad?
Anonymous
09/26/2024 00:07
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
Nope. Non-catholic here and are considering Catholic elementary because they have direct instruction of Phonics, spelling, grammar, cursive hand writing and more - many areas where our local public elementary simply does not offer direct instruction to students.
The Catholic schools were among the few schools which were not contaminated by the now widely discredited Lucy Calkins crap.
If you teach your kid to read yourself, then it doesn't matter what reading curriculum the school uses for early grades. That Lucy Calkins and 3-cueing and wholistic word memorization crap doesn't hurt the kids who already can read.
Anonymous
09/25/2024 14:11
Subject: Smug Catholic school
"Now that I know you consider kids with IEPs to be garbage, we'll do you a favor and stay away from you from now on. I'm so sorry we've been upsetting you with our existence this whole time."
Anonymous
09/25/2024 14:08
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:My experience is that parents who seek private high schools are either status-obsessed or it is because their kids are ill-adapted (I don't mean this to be harsh) to make their way in the public system. Some kids can do quite well in class sizes of 25+ students. Some struggle in class sizes of 10-12 students.
There are a lot more reasons than this. Mainly religion, curriculum, and behavior in schools.
Anonymous
09/24/2024 16:33
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
Nope. Non-catholic here and are considering Catholic elementary because they have direct instruction of Phonics, spelling, grammar, cursive hand writing and more - many areas where our local public elementary simply does not offer direct instruction to students.
The Catholic schools were among the few schools which were not contaminated by the now widely discredited Lucy Calkins crap.
Anonymous
09/24/2024 16:09
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:My experience is that parents who seek private high schools are either status-obsessed or it is because their kids are ill-adapted (I don't mean this to be harsh) to make their way in the public system. Some kids can do quite well in class sizes of 25+ students. Some struggle in class sizes of 10-12 students.
Yep, pretty much.
Anonymous
09/22/2024 09:46
Subject: Smug Catholic school
My experience is that parents who seek private high schools are either status-obsessed or it is because their kids are ill-adapted (I don't mean this to be harsh) to make their way in the public system. Some kids can do quite well in class sizes of 25+ students. Some struggle in class sizes of 10-12 students.
Anonymous
09/22/2024 06:15
Subject: Smug Catholic school
I was in a friend group where one of the moms had told us she had bid on this house and lost before the new owners joined our friend group. At every gathering we had to hear about how the house she lost the bid on was actually really problematic and how the house she ended up with was so much better even when the woman who had outbid her was hosting and she was saying this to her face. We eventually did a slow fade with the critical mom because she was competitive like this about a lot of things and we were tired of her rudeness. Saying once that she actually was glad she lost the bid and was happy with the home she ended up with would have been fine. It was was the ongoing talk and unnecessary negative comments that were competitive and off putting. I think this is the type of behavior OP doesn't appreciate.
Anonymous
09/20/2024 16:02
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Catholic school for non-Catholics (or non-observant Catholics) is simply for avoiding the poor, brown and disabled.
Anonymous
09/19/2024 19:58
Subject: Smug Catholic school
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:People who say stuff like this are really still trying to convince themselves that the switch was the right move. They're feeling insecure even though it feels like they're being smug.
Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.
Found the smug poster.
So, only some people are allowed to be ok with their school? Did OP even know her friends were unhappy and the school didn’t meet their needs? If she did she might be able to muster a little happiness for them. But, instead it’s all about her kids. If her kids needs are met, what’s the problem?
It’s very clear from the original post that the friends keep putting down the public school, where OP’s kids still are. Not sure what is hard to understand about that.
OP never said why they left in the first place. That matters.
No it doesn’t. It doesn’t excuse telling people at the old school that their kids’ education is inferior or that they will need to supplement their kids’ education to keep up with the friends’ kids. Just re-read the first paragraph.
Many people supplement. It’s a given in a lot of public schools. This isn’t breaking news. Still, they left for a reason and op is omitting that for some reason. The school failed her friends in some way and they took the drastic measure to change schools. If it was bullying and i had to pull my kids out you bet your life i would be trashing the school that did nothing. Even if my friend got offended.
It’s not about supplementing, it’s about telling your friends they will need to do it to keep up with your kids.
It’s not about trashing the school because your kids got bullied, it’s about telling your friend that their kids’ education is subpar compared to your kids’ education.
This isn’t difficult but I get the sense that you think “being contrarian” is your key personality trait.
Interesting that OP won’t come back so you’re trying to fill in the gaps in her story.
Literally taking things they said from their first paragraph. It’s called “reading.”
I asked why they left. You don’t know. So thanks for nothing. Is Op paying you to represent her?
Nope, I’m just capable of reading (and I’m not a shitty person so I can understand why what her friends said is rude and uncalled for).
Good for you. But comments about IEPs, and apparent issues with academics don’t exactly tell the whole story. OP is not nearly a good or close friend if she doesn’t know the real story so who cares if this supposed friendship blows up?