Our DD played for another ‘top 4’ CHRVA team and Metro has, hands down, the best talent. Does Paramount make more with less? No question, does VA Juniors punch above their weight on junior teams - yes, does VA Elite produce many kids who play a lot at college (ie more prepared), yes. Ultimately Metro kids go, consistently, to more, and higher ranked, D1 schools - yes. Every kid wants to play for Metro, and occasionally, sitting on the bench is ok too.

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Anonymous wrote:There is D1 (UVA, Duke, UNC, Michigan) and there is D1 (schools you’ve never heard of with zero academic rigor), and there is minimal money for these schools. A lot of this region’s D1 recruits (outside of Metro) fall into the second category. In the basis that these kids won’t play pro volleyball and will need to get a job, I am surprised that parents don’t counsel them better and use their talents to get into a top D3 school (NYU, Chicago, Tufts, Johns Hopkins etc). Is it parents wanting a D1 kid for their own ego? Seems crazy to me.

Do you know this area's volleyball? You mean Metro players went to lafayette, Leigh, Towson, Navy etc falled into the second category? Metro has the best talents in this region and still got recruited into the same schools like other club.

The poster with broken English strikes again. There is some obvious envy that Metro attracts some of the best players in the region. Metro should offer this poster a coach position and all the Metro players would make it into Nebraska or Texas.

Right? And the Ohio State player they keep going on about had 27 kills in a 5 set match against Penn State last weekend. She's starting on a Big 10 team as a freshman and making a huge impact. Sounds like a real disappointment. This poster also seems to be avoiding talking about the Metro player who has been starting as a freshman for #1 ranked Pitt. Or the Metro players getting significant playing time for Louisville, BYU, or UNC who are all ranked in the top 25.

And those poor kids who have to go to Lehigh, Lafayette, or the Naval Academy - what a shame that have to suffer at these great schools while playing the sport they love.

The Metro alum that goes to Louisville never sees the floor (and she's a junior). Other CHRVA clubs have sent players to various Patriot League schools. Moreover, there are other CHRVA clubs that also currently have players who are on Top 15-25 programs.

The Metro alum that goes to Louisville for volleyball purposes is a redshirt sophomore and has played in 25 sets already this season, including 3 sets in important ACC matches like Stanford and Georgia Tech. I think it's fair to say that she is not always a starter, but not even close to never seeing the floor.

This basic premise that started this thread was bashing Metro because all their players only go to 2nd tier or worse programs and that's demonstrably false. Of course every Metro alum isn't playing on a top 25 team, but there are enough making strong contributions on top 25 teams (and many more on power 4 programs outside the top 25) that demonstrate Metro alums are succeeding in the collegiate game. No one has said there aren't players from other CHRVA clubs on power 4 teams (and I am aware of at least one in this week's top 25) and there are lots of players from Metro and other local clubs at mid major D1s, including many in the Patriot League, CAA, Ivy League, Big East, etc. And my point remains the same, whether it applies to Metro or other CHRVA clubs - if players that love playing volleyball are getting to do it at any collegiate level at a school that they want to be at, good for them, regardless of what us keyboard warriors think.

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Anonymous wrote:There is D1 (UVA, Duke, UNC, Michigan) and there is D1 (schools you’ve never heard of with zero academic rigor), and there is minimal money for these schools. A lot of this region’s D1 recruits (outside of Metro) fall into the second category. In the basis that these kids won’t play pro volleyball and will need to get a job, I am surprised that parents don’t counsel them better and use their talents to get into a top D3 school (NYU, Chicago, Tufts, Johns Hopkins etc). Is it parents wanting a D1 kid for their own ego? Seems crazy to me.

Do you know this area's volleyball? You mean Metro players went to lafayette, Leigh, Towson, Navy etc falled into the second category? Metro has the best talents in this region and still got recruited into the same schools like other club.

The poster with broken English strikes again. There is some obvious envy that Metro attracts some of the best players in the region. Metro should offer this poster a coach position and all the Metro players would make it into Nebraska or Texas.

Right? And the Ohio State player they keep going on about had 27 kills in a 5 set match against Penn State last weekend. She's starting on a Big 10 team as a freshman and making a huge impact. Sounds like a real disappointment. This poster also seems to be avoiding talking about the Metro player who has been starting as a freshman for #1 ranked Pitt. Or the Metro players getting significant playing time for Louisville, BYU, or UNC who are all ranked in the top 25.

And those poor kids who have to go to Lehigh, Lafayette, or the Naval Academy - what a shame that have to suffer at these great schools while playing the sport they love.

The Metro alum that goes to Louisville never sees the floor (and she's a junior). Other CHRVA clubs have sent players to various Patriot League schools. Moreover, there are other CHRVA clubs that also currently have players who are on Top 15-25 programs.

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Anonymous wrote:There is D1 (UVA, Duke, UNC, Michigan) and there is D1 (schools you’ve never heard of with zero academic rigor), and there is minimal money for these schools. A lot of this region’s D1 recruits (outside of Metro) fall into the second category. In the basis that these kids won’t play pro volleyball and will need to get a job, I am surprised that parents don’t counsel them better and use their talents to get into a top D3 school (NYU, Chicago, Tufts, Johns Hopkins etc). Is it parents wanting a D1 kid for their own ego? Seems crazy to me.

Do you know this area's volleyball? You mean Metro players went to lafayette, Leigh, Towson, Navy etc falled into the second category? Metro has the best talents in this region and still got recruited into the same schools like other club.

The poster with broken English strikes again. There is some obvious envy that Metro attracts some of the best players in the region. Metro should offer this poster a coach position and all the Metro players would make it into Nebraska or Texas.

Right? And the Ohio State player they keep going on about had 27 kills in a 5 set match against Penn State last weekend. She's starting on a Big 10 team as a freshman and making a huge impact. Sounds like a real disappointment. This poster also seems to be avoiding talking about the Metro player who has been starting as a freshman for #1 ranked Pitt. Or the Metro players getting significant playing time for Louisville, BYU, or UNC who are all ranked in the top 25.

And those poor kids who have to go to Lehigh, Lafayette, or the Naval Academy - what a shame that have to suffer at these great schools while playing the sport they love.

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Anonymous wrote:There is D1 (UVA, Duke, UNC, Michigan) and there is D1 (schools you’ve never heard of with zero academic rigor), and there is minimal money for these schools. A lot of this region’s D1 recruits (outside of Metro) fall into the second category. In the basis that these kids won’t play pro volleyball and will need to get a job, I am surprised that parents don’t counsel them better and use their talents to get into a top D3 school (NYU, Chicago, Tufts, Johns Hopkins etc). Is it parents wanting a D1 kid for their own ego? Seems crazy to me.

Do you know this area's volleyball? You mean Metro players went to lafayette, Leigh, Towson, Navy etc falled into the second category? Metro has the best talents in this region and still got recruited into the same schools like other club.

The poster with broken English strikes again. There is some obvious envy that Metro attracts some of the best players in the region. Metro should offer this poster a coach position and all the Metro players would make it into Nebraska or Texas.

Anonymous wrote:Just checked that OSU women's volleyball this year is one of the 4 worst teams(accompanied by umd)(win/lose 1/7 and 0/8). What a waste of talent by Metro coaches to send a national top player to OSU! Hopefully she can be trained in OSU and transfer.

Any player fortunate enough to be recruitable at the D1 level who chases AVCA rankings or NCAA RPI as the primary basis for their decisionmaking is chasing fools gold. The explosion of the sport over the last 3 years has forced a complete reset in the competition levels across the entire collegiate level of the sport -- at all sections -- D1, D2, D3 and NAIA. Would encourage folks to watch as much college VB as you can this Fall to see what's happening. Almost every night of collegiate-level play this season has involved what commentators and experts term an "upset." SMU beating Nebraska. UVA is ranked for the first time since the 90s. D1 schools in the mid-majors who seem to be on the come up. OSU was a top team at the time the Metro player people keep referring to was recruited . . . the coach had a scholarship crunch, lost great players in the portal, and the team found itself in rebuild mode, seemingly over night. But you know what that does? creates an opportunity for that player to be an integral part of the rebuilding process. And if you watch them this season, she is doing just that.

Also -- this NCAA settlement has the potential to add a lot of chaos into the mix; very curious to see which athletic programs survive because of the financial pinch the settlement is going to put on schools that don't have the revenue to absorb the hit that is coming.

Bottom-line -- if your player is interested in playing volleyball in college, there is an opportunity for them to do it at EVERY school. The only issue is whether it will be for the varsity level team, or via a college's club or intramural sports program. Players should pick the school they want to attend first, and then integrate their recruitment expectations and desires, and their financial aid needs into that list.

Anonymous wrote:There is D1 (UVA, Duke, UNC, Michigan) and there is D1 (schools you’ve never heard of with zero academic rigor), and there is minimal money for these schools. A lot of this region’s D1 recruits (outside of Metro) fall into the second category. In the basis that these kids won’t play pro volleyball and will need to get a job, I am surprised that parents don’t counsel them better and use their talents to get into a top D3 school (NYU, Chicago, Tufts, Johns Hopkins etc). Is it parents wanting a D1 kid for their own ego? Seems crazy to me.

Do you know this area's volleyball? You mean Metro players went to lafayette, Leigh, Towson, Navy etc falled into the second category? Metro has the best talents in this region and still got recruited into the same schools like other club.

Just checked that OSU women's volleyball this year is one of the 4 worst teams(accompanied by umd)(win/lose 1/7 and 0/8). What a waste of talent by Metro coaches to send a national top player to OSU! Hopefully she can be trained in OSU and transfer.

Anonymous wrote:There is D1 (UVA, Duke, UNC, Michigan) and there is D1 (schools you’ve never heard of with zero academic rigor), and there is minimal money for these schools. A lot of this region’s D1 recruits (outside of Metro) fall into the second category. In the basis that these kids won’t play pro volleyball and will need to get a job, I am surprised that parents don’t counsel them better and use their talents to get into a top D3 school (NYU, Chicago, Tufts, Johns Hopkins etc). Is it parents wanting a D1 kid for their own ego? Seems crazy to me.

As soon as a high academic D3 coach looks at you for few minutes and determines that you could potentially play at their level, their very next thought is "Can this kid get into my school?" There are a lot of good players where the answer to that question is no. Where do those players go? Lower D1, D2 and NAIA.

The old trope of athletics allow bad students to get into great colleges has never been less true than it is now. Sure, it does still happen sometimes but you aren't getting into top D3 schools (or top D1 schools now) solely on the basis of your volleyball ability. At the true top academic schools in D3 many of the coaches will tell you that you'll have a spot on the team, but you'll need to get in first and they don't have much influence over the admissions processes. That's why they do pre-reads. Even at the D1 level the talent pool is so deep that coaches can just move on to the next player who meets their academic requirements.

The reverse situation is probably more common in our area. High academic students that could play for a competitive D1 volleyball school, but choose to go to a less competitive D1 volleyball program because the academics are so much better. Think choosing an Ivy over choosing a school at the bottom of the power 5, or choosing a small liberal arts D3 over a mid-tier D1. And there a lot of good players who don't play volleyball in college at all because they want to go to a high academic school and they didn't recruited for that type of school.

There is D1 (UVA, Duke, UNC, Michigan) and there is D1 (schools you’ve never heard of with zero academic rigor), and there is minimal money for these schools. A lot of this region’s D1 recruits (outside of Metro) fall into the second category. In the basis that these kids won’t play pro volleyball and will need to get a job, I am surprised that parents don’t counsel them better and use their talents to get into a top D3 school (NYU, Chicago, Tufts, Johns Hopkins etc). Is it parents wanting a D1 kid for their own ego? Seems crazy to me.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same about Metro so I totally get OP's perspective. I actually switched to Metro eventually and i don't regret it a bit. Whether my daughter will play D1 or not, I like Metro because (I will keep it simple!)

(1) They offer quality competition: playing in highest level (OPEN division) teaches players so much stuff that clinics, lessons can't offer.
(2) Playing with best players drive my daughter to work harder
(3) Price is actually reasonable compared to other clubs. I know lots of VA clubs say their higher fees include so much and is about the same, but I was an auditor and compared the numbers--- Metro is at least $1000 cheaper with everything counted for (new uniforms, HUDL, etc)---so do your research!
(4) Metro offers the best clinic in the area. I've been to SOOOOOO many different club's clinic (MD, VA), but Metro training is the BEST hands down.

I think every club has pros and cons and grass is always greener on the other side. Do I think Metro has no negatives? No, I won't be that blinded.

But do I like Metro the best out of all the clubs in DMV? Yes. I believe Metro offers most out of any DMV clubs in the area. Everyone should do their own research and find answers for themselves. For me, Metro was the way to go.

I know not ALL players will play at a brand-name academic or volleyball college, but I know starters on the team definitely go to those schools. Metro Travel has the most # of players committed to college, so that should say something. When players are moving into DMV area, their coaches actually tell them to go check out Metro.

Thanks for reading!

OSU women's volleyball has never been in ncaa final four since 1994, and not in ncaa tournament 2016-2019, , 2021 2022 sweet 16, 2023 Elite 8, why someone think that's a best volleyball program for a top athelet?

Dude, you seem to have an obsession. Go out, breath in, breath out, then repeat if the idea "Metro sucks" comes back. You definitely have no idea what you are talking about, you are just trying to trash one of the top clubs in the area. You look quite pathetic, and not as knowledgeable as you believe. Just drop it, you embarrass yourself.

I thought OSU volleyball had better ranking than what the PP said(will check). If it is true, OSU is not a good recruitment for a national top athelet. Any other club can do a better job get the athelet recruited.

The poster with broken English strikes again. Bumps the thread bashing Metro without adding anything to the discussion. Promises to do homework (check on OSU ranking) and get back to us. There will be another opportunity to bash Metro when the poster bumps the thread again to share OSU ranking. Just imagine how much better Emmi Sellman would have done only if she was lucky enough to have this poster as her coach! Because Metro definitely failed Emmi Sellman to an outrageous degree.

Again I will report this because player's name mentioned. Here is the osu ranking and seems the ranking is not good:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Buckeyes_women%27s_volleyball

What did I say that the poster with broken English cannot help themselves? Exactly as I predicted, the poster found the ranking and bumped this thread again.
Hey, PP, how would you improve Metro if it was up to you? Would you fire the deceitful club director? Would you take the helm and properly coach the travel teams to make sure that the players reach their full potential? Or you are just nagging on anonymous forums because that's all you know how to do?

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Anonymous wrote:I love how deceitful Metro's club director is by claiming that Metro has only been around 9 years and was founded in 2015, when in reality she BOUGHT the club in 2015 from the legendary Barry Goldberg, who founded the club in 1998. When she bought the club, the club was already head and shoulders the most successful club in the CHRVA, and they were already getting all of the top talent in the CHRVA Region. Metro and VAE are the two clubs that are by far the shadiest and most disingenuous with their social media (I saw VAE make a claim that their 18s team had the best American Division finish in CHRVA history, which is patently false).

We've been reading these stories for months if not years. Do you have anything new to add or you are just a broken record who cannot unplug itself?

But the Metro director is a very good coach and one of the only two good coaches Metro currently have. We have private lesson with her before.

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Anonymous wrote:I used to think the same about Metro so I totally get OP's perspective. I actually switched to Metro eventually and i don't regret it a bit. Whether my daughter will play D1 or not, I like Metro because (I will keep it simple!)

(1) They offer quality competition: playing in highest level (OPEN division) teaches players so much stuff that clinics, lessons can't offer.
(2) Playing with best players drive my daughter to work harder
(3) Price is actually reasonable compared to other clubs. I know lots of VA clubs say their higher fees include so much and is about the same, but I was an auditor and compared the numbers--- Metro is at least $1000 cheaper with everything counted for (new uniforms, HUDL, etc)---so do your research!
(4) Metro offers the best clinic in the area. I've been to SOOOOOO many different club's clinic (MD, VA), but Metro training is the BEST hands down.

I think every club has pros and cons and grass is always greener on the other side. Do I think Metro has no negatives? No, I won't be that blinded.

But do I like Metro the best out of all the clubs in DMV? Yes. I believe Metro offers most out of any DMV clubs in the area. Everyone should do their own research and find answers for themselves. For me, Metro was the way to go.

I know not ALL players will play at a brand-name academic or volleyball college, but I know starters on the team definitely go to those schools. Metro Travel has the most # of players committed to college, so that should say something. When players are moving into DMV area, their coaches actually tell them to go check out Metro.

Thanks for reading!

OSU women's volleyball has never been in ncaa final four since 1994, and not in ncaa tournament 2016-2019, , 2021 2022 sweet 16, 2023 Elite 8, why someone think that's a best volleyball program for a top athelet?

Dude, you seem to have an obsession. Go out, breath in, breath out, then repeat if the idea "Metro sucks" comes back. You definitely have no idea what you are talking about, you are just trying to trash one of the top clubs in the area. You look quite pathetic, and not as knowledgeable as you believe. Just drop it, you embarrass yourself.

I thought OSU volleyball had better ranking than what the PP said(will check). If it is true, OSU is not a good recruitment for a national top athelet. Any other club can do a better job get the athelet recruited.

The poster with broken English strikes again. Bumps the thread bashing Metro without adding anything to the discussion. Promises to do homework (check on OSU ranking) and get back to us. There will be another opportunity to bash Metro when the poster bumps the thread again to share OSU ranking. Just imagine how much better Emmi Sellman would have done only if she was lucky enough to have this poster as her coach! Because Metro definitely failed Emmi Sellman to an outrageous degree.

Again I will report this because player's name mentioned. Here is the osu ranking and seems the ranking is not good:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ohio_State_Buckeyes_women%27s_volleyball

Anonymous wrote:I love how deceitful Metro's club director is by claiming that Metro has only been around 9 years and was founded in 2015, when in reality she BOUGHT the club in 2015 from the legendary Barry Goldberg, who founded the club in 1998. When she bought the club, the club was already head and shoulders the most successful club in the CHRVA, and they were already getting all of the top talent in the CHRVA Region. Metro and VAE are the two clubs that are by far the shadiest and most disingenuous with their social media (I saw VAE make a claim that their 18s team had the best American Division finish in CHRVA history, which is patently false).

We've been reading these stories for months if not years. Do you have anything new to add or you are just a broken record who cannot unplug itself?

I love how deceitful Metro's club director is by claiming that Metro has only been around 9 years and was founded in 2015, when in reality she BOUGHT the club in 2015 from the legendary Barry Goldberg, who founded the club in 1998. When she bought the club, the club was already head and shoulders the most successful club in the CHRVA, and they were already getting all of the top talent in the CHRVA Region. Metro and VAE are the two clubs that are by far the shadiest and most disingenuous with their social media (I saw VAE make a claim that their 18s team had the best American Division finish in CHRVA history, which is patently false).