Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone else think it is weird that Hopkins is tied with Caltech?

Why not Northwestern or Duke by that same token?

I mean Hopkins has humanities and is way more well rounded than Caltech

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have 4 schools at the rank of 6 because if there were 3, that would spell out 6-6-6 and then people would be afraid to apply to them.

Srsly, what kind of ranking system ends up with 4 6s in a Top 10. It's like they didn't get the assignment OR there's practically no difference in the education on offer.

There is practically no difference between #3 and #9, or #9 and #14, or #42 and #56. Obviously schools matter to some extent, but the student matters much more. A student who chooses classes well, works hard, and get involved in activities that interest them will get a much better education at a "mediocre" school than someone who just coasts by at a "top" school.

There can be a significant 'culture' difference between a 3 and a 9 or 9 and 14. There are some schools known to have a depressed and highly cutthroat, non-collaborative environment.

So, yeah, outcomes won't be too different post college---but mental health and happiness may be!!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

Pull out all the schools that are Test Optional. No Test Optional schools should be in the T10-T20 at all.

So bye-bye Hopkins, bye bye Duke: you have sunk.

what are you talking about? hopkins already declared end to test optional starting next year

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

Pull out all the schools that are Test Optional. No Test Optional schools should be in the T10-T20 at all.

So bye-bye Hopkins, bye bye Duke: you have sunk.

Anonymous wrote:Where’s UVA?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

I think an even more reasonable list might be:

1) Princeton
2) MIT
3) Harvard
3) Stanford
5) Yale
6) Chicago
6) Duke
6) Johns Hopkins
6) Northwestern
6) U Penn

CalTech is too tiny (fewer than 1,000 undergraduates) and too specialized to be ranked among universities handling a much larger and more diverse educational mission.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:They have 4 schools at the rank of 6 because if there were 3, that would spell out 6-6-6 and then people would be afraid to apply to them.

Srsly, what kind of ranking system ends up with 4 6s in a Top 10. It's like they didn't get the assignment OR there's practically no difference in the education on offer.

There is practically no difference between #3 and #9, or #9 and #14, or #42 and #56. Obviously schools matter to some extent, but the student matters much more. A student who chooses classes well, works hard, and get involved in activities that interest them will get a much better education at a "mediocre" school than someone who just coasts by at a "top" school.

Anonymous wrote:They have 4 schools at the rank of 6 because if there were 3, that would spell out 6-6-6 and then people would be afraid to apply to them.

Srsly, what kind of ranking system ends up with 4 6s in a Top 10. It's like they didn't get the assignment OR there's practically no difference in the education on offer.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid didn't let the list change his mind. If he had, he would have been at Hopkins this year. Hopkins would NOT have been a good fit. A parent is an alum and just nothing about Hopkins is this kid.

People that go solely by highest ranking are doing it wrong. Lots of mental health issues and bad fit because people don't do their due diligence in looking at type of fit/environment, etc.

And, yes, for some Hopkins is a great match. When you get up into the 20s it really doesn't matter points here and there.

Can you elaborate on this comment? What type of kid would not be a good fit for Hopkins? We are visiting soon, but I've heard great things so far and I don't know of anyone who has a current student there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

Pull out all the schools that are Test Optional. No Test Optional schools should be in the T10-T20 at all.

So bye-bye Hopkins, bye bye Duke: you have sunk.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Embargoed means it still has time to change right? I think a more reasonable list would go:

1. Princeton
2. MIT
3. Harvard
3. Stanford
5. Yale
6. Caltech
6. Duke
8. Johns Hopkins
8. Northwestern
10. Penn

Well sheeit, if we're going to do that then I'd say:

1. MIT
2. Stanford
3. Harvard
3. Cal Tech
5. Princeton
6. Duke
6. Johns Hopkins
8. Yale
8. Penn
10. Brown

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:My kid didn't let the list change his mind. If he had, he would have been at Hopkins this year. Hopkins would NOT have been a good fit. A parent is an alum and just nothing about Hopkins is this kid.

People that go solely by highest ranking are doing it wrong. Lots of mental health issues and bad fit because people don't do their due diligence in looking at type of fit/environment, etc.

And, yes, for some Hopkins is a great match. When you get up into the 20s it really doesn't matter points here and there.

Can you elaborate on this comment? What type of kid would not be a good fit for Hopkins? We are visiting soon, but I've heard great things so far and I don't know of anyone who has a current student there.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Seems like a normal list. You are always going to get debates about the t10, t20, t50. All these schools are top notch.

+1 does anyone actually believe there are real quality distinctions between all these very wealthy private schools? These ranking debates are so pointless.