"This thread is about school shooting. So far I’ve seen in print that six children have been murdered in Georgia. It was the top article when I opened Apple News."

NBC is reporting four; two students and two teachers. The football coach is gravely injured. The shooter is 14 years old.

Washington Post has been tracking gun violence at school (the federal government, in yet another mind-boggling failure in this area, doesn't even track this). Nearly 400,000 students have experienced gun violence at their school since Columbine. This includes kids who died, were injured, witnessed violence, or cowered in closets or bathrooms to hide from the shootings on the other side of the door.

Untold numbers of schools schools have also had false alarms -- not drills, but actual lockdowns that are triggered, leading the school and students to believe that it's their turn. (My own kid had one of these. She hid in the closet and texted me that she loved me).

And of course EVERY kid has done drills, countless drills, in each one imagining the moment someone enters their place of learning to hunt them like an animal.

Nobody wants it this way. No one. Not even the A-rated-by-the-NRA cowards in congress. Eventually, the politicians will crack. It will be harder to do nothing than it is to make change. Once a few shift, most will. We will look back on this time, and see it for what it was, and is: madness.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with boys?


Girls don’t do this

The Nashville school shooter?

Very rare.

Anonymous wrote:Cue the RWNJs who will inevitably claim this is a false flag before the election.

They cannot believe when this stuff happens so literally make sh*t up and believe it

When will they start harassing the parents of the kids killed?!

Anonymous wrote:Arrest the parents every time. Maybe some parents will atop being so reckless with their firearms.

Agree. Parents of mass shooters under 18 should be arrested for neglect and responsible.

Arrest the parents every time. Maybe some parents will atop being so reckless with their firearms.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine sending your child to school and that's the last time you ever see them.

The news reported a text to a mother from a 16 year old student huddled with her classmates during the shooting that said, "I know I have not been a perfect daughter. I love you. I'm sorry."

And schools are requiring students to lock up their phones all day.

My kids attends one of the DC schools that requires them to lock up their phones. I’m fine with it. I don’t want the last communication with my kids to be a panic-induced text. Heartbreaking.

Anonymous wrote:What’s wrong with boys?


Girls don’t do this

The Nashville school shooter?

Gun control isn’t the problem. A 14-year-old can’t purchase a gun. The parents failed in this situation by not properly storing their guns. No 14-year-old should be able to easily access a firearm.

Anonymous wrote:Epidemic of mental illness.

This is the real problem. Need to send our mentally ill abroad, after all we are taking in everyone’s misfits, only fair to return the favor.

Anonymous wrote:Epidemic of mental illness.

Epidemic of gun culture and gun worshipping where people take Christmas card photos holding guns and gun manufacturers post ads showing toddlers with guns.

What’s wrong with boys?


Girls don’t do this

Anonymous wrote:I have to believe almost any minor involved in shootings at school had access to gun brought by an adult usually a parent. So - with so many guns already owned by people not sure it's possible to actually limit arms. Some for sure but not most.

The other factor is that there are SO many hubs in the street already and I do not see the day post Sandy Hook limits will ever be established to limit 2nd amendment rights in this country. Best case scenario is tighter background checks but that's not always going to catch the potential tragedies. A better incentive is training in gun storage and shooting. I think we need to also tie the threat of prosecution to parents whose kids may be offenders using their weapons.

I think ultimately the way to prevent these tragedies is developing communities that are aware, look out for one another and hopefully are lucky enough to find a warning before these tragedies happen. There's not a lot of realistic options to prevent them from happening insofar as anti gun advocacy although of course I wish that could magically curb these kinds of events.

people used to say c*** like this about drinking and driving. But you are wrong. Culture can be changed. We can give up worshipping guns and be a little less like Pakistan, a little more like England

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

Secure? Is not "Georgia a good guy with a gun" security state? The more guns the more secure.

Random local residents (whether armed or not) are not going to be helpful in any type of school shooting situation.

Neither is law enforcement. See Uvalde for how effective 400 LEOs are against a single teenager with an AR-15.

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Anonymous wrote:Nothing will ever be accomplished in terms of gun control, mental health care etc, IMO.

Why are schools not secure?? I think that is what should realistically be focused on. I don’t hear about many mass shootings at courthouses, airports or sports stadiums. Metal detectors for all adults and bags (and students above a certain age), armed officer at every school K-12, fortifying the perimeter and entry points, and improved technology (so much that can be done these days). IMO this is where the focus should be…if we are being realistic

How do you know there was no security? Still if you want to play this game let’s play it. Every time I get in a security line at the airport, government building or sport stadium I know no one line has been screened. Anyone around me can have a bomb, a hand gun and or an assault rifle. The security line becomes the easiest target.

The current strategy of “let’s do nothing- just wait patiently until all guns are banned” does not appear to be working out very well. Until such a thing occurs, increases in security procedures need to be the focus unless we want this to keep happening

How about a national red flag law? How about a national assault weapons ban? How about raising the age to gun ownership to over 21 nationally?