Anonymous wrote:I would find a top psychiatrist who does NOT specialize in gender dysphoria. The ones who specialize are basically activists who will affirm your daughter.

A psychoanalyst (not all psychiatrists are psychoanalysts) is likely a good fit, because they will have her closely examine her early childhood. IMO, you’re very much on the right track in suspecting that she’s trying to feel closer to her father with this “transition”. She needs to explore that.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.

The ADULT is living with the hospital chaplain. The article which is designed to get you up and arms skirts around the question of whether they were an adult when that happened. The kid turned 18 in March 2023. The foster mother died "sometime in 2023", so there's at least a 75% chance, more if the birthday is in early March, that the foster mom died after they were an adult. It's also not clear if they went immediately from the foster home to the chaplain's home. It seems likely, given that the goal of the article is to make people upset, that it was after their 18th birthday, because they'd say so otherwise. But I guess there's a small chance they weren't.

But most likely this was an adult with a high IQ and a college degree. They can live where they like.

Technically. But there were a lot of shady things going on leading up to that 18th birthday.

IMO it should not be up to politicians to make laws about what is good health care.

However, transitioning minors and young adults should NOT be taken lightly, and there needs to be much more scrutiny of hospitals, therapists, and the entire industry.

It’s really hard to get admitted to the psychiatric hospital. This young person was admitted to the hospital after an incident that they describe as “cutting” and that the Christian therapist describes as a suicide attempt. The parents then refused to engage in conversation about their kid’s needs and kept turning the conversation to their own agenda. To me that seems like the parents are the ones taking the situation “lightly”.

As far as your comment that hospitals shouldn’t transition adults (young or old) lightly, the transition that the young person made was a social one. Adults absolutely have the right to use the pronouns they want.

right, but the problem is the nexus between the psychiatric hospitalization and the push to transition. Despite what is claimed, transition is not therapy for suicidality. I’d be extremely wary of a hospital that was taking that approach. Having him foster as a minor with a friend of Children’s staff and aparently also develop a personal relationship with a Children’s staff member to the extent they moved in together is also probablematic. Otherwise, agree with PP that the article is obviously one-sided.

After reading too many links, my understanding is the following:

In May 2021, the young person was a 16 year old high school graduate enrolled in community college. They were not formally diagnosed with autism, but parents later reported that they suspected autism.

Young person comes out as LGBT to friends.

At some time before or after this, young person began seeing a Christian Counselor named Tyrone Obaseki who describes himself as one of a class of "counselors who hold orthodox Christian convictions on sexuality and gender". Obaseki denies that what he was doing was "conversion therapy". The state of VA found that it was not. On Obaseki's website (https://transform-mind.com/our-services/) it lists "LGBTQ Biblical Transformation" first on his list of specialties but does not describe what that entails.

Also, at some point before or after this, the parents put the kid on a waiting list for an autism evaluation, in hopes that the evaluation will lead to accommodations in college.

In November of the same year the young person either attempted suicide (according to the article that quotes Obaseki) or was cutting (according to the article that quotes parents) and Obaseki referred him to Children's where he was voluntarily admitted.

(Note: in my experience, Children's psych beds are scarce so this probably means that Children's felt that the teen was at risk of further self harm)

The teen stayed in the hospital for 41 days. During that time, the teen said things that led the hospital to do the following:

-- Start calling teen by a female name, and referring to the teen with she/her pronouns.
-- Ask to meet with the parents without the therapist present.
-- File a complaint with the VA licensing authorities.

(Note: the article I got this from implies that the fact that they contacted VA licensing authorities and not DC is suspicious, but I don't see any evidence that Obaseki is licensed in DC. Contacting the authorities in the state where he is licensed and where the therapy in question took place makes sense to me!)

Parents refused to attend the meeting without the Christian therapist. The Christian therapist was not licensed in DC, was eventually allowed to attend but was asked not to speak. The CNH therapist used female pronouns and a new name during the meeting, and then the parents and the therapist spend the meeting discussing pronouns and names. There is no information about whether these conversations were calm or were argumentative. There is no information about how the teenager responded to these conversations, and whether they participated or became distressed.

Children's indicated to the parents that in order for the teenager to return home, they needed to agree to some changes. The parents argued that the changes were against their religion. There is no information about what the changes were.

Parents tried to move the teen to a different hospital, and at that point CNH asked CPS to intervene. CPS eventually put the teen in foster care.

(Note: as a former foster parent, I can tell you that finding a foster parent willing to take an African American teen with gender dysphoria coming straight from an extended stay in the psychiatric hospital, with a history of suicidal behavior is going to be challenging. At the same point, if what the parents say about the teen being highly impressionable and imitative, this is not someone who would be safe in congregate care. So, it doesn't really surprise me that the teen ended up in a home with someone who has friends within the transgender community. One of those friends works as a chaplain at Children's, a major employer in the DC area).

The teenager remained in foster care until their 18th birthday. During that time

-- the autism evaluation was cancelled

-- the parents and therapist began referring to the teenager as autistic

-- the teenager made another suicide attempt and was briefly hospitalized. On the intake form, CPS (who had custody) indicated that the teen was a girl.

-- the VA licensing board found that the therapist was not engaging in illegal conversion therapy, and closed the case after sending a letter suggesting that the therapist make certain changes to his practice.

At some time either shortly before or after the teen's 18th birthday their foster mother died.

At this point, the teenager is an adult, and it is unclear where they live, but parents report that they might be living with a CNH chaplain who was friends with the former foster mother.

Parents have sued CNH for "trafficking" their "child".

The therapist has sued CNH for $1 Billion dollars of behalf a class of "orthodox Christian counselors".

Who was right or wrong? It's impossible to say, because there is so much information missing. What were the practices CNH wanted the parents to change? What were the practices the licensing board wanted the therapist to change? What did the teen tell hospital staff happened during therapy with the Christian counselor? What is "LGBTQ Bible transformation"?

We have one side of the story. That's almost always true in these cases because the hospital has to protect privacy, and in this case the teenager wasn't interviewed either.

Sources:

Press release from the parents attorney:

https://fox2now.com/business/press-releases/ein-presswire/714545030/parents-suing-childrens-national-hospital-for-transitioning-and-trafficking-their-son-take-their-plight-to-congress/

Washington Stand Articles (Note: Washington Stand is the media outlet of the Family Research Council. It has a "Biblical Worldview". It is generally considered extremely right wing and not an unbiased source)

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-took-transitioned-child-as-parents-fought-for-his-longterm-best-interest

https://washingtonstand.com/news/childrens-national-hospital-tried-to-end-this-christian-therapists-career-now-hes-suing

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.

The ADULT is living with the hospital chaplain. The article which is designed to get you up and arms skirts around the question of whether they were an adult when that happened. The kid turned 18 in March 2023. The foster mother died "sometime in 2023", so there's at least a 75% chance, more if the birthday is in early March, that the foster mom died after they were an adult. It's also not clear if they went immediately from the foster home to the chaplain's home. It seems likely, given that the goal of the article is to make people upset, that it was after their 18th birthday, because they'd say so otherwise. But I guess there's a small chance they weren't.

But most likely this was an adult with a high IQ and a college degree. They can live where they like.

Technically. But there were a lot of shady things going on leading up to that 18th birthday.

IMO it should not be up to politicians to make laws about what is good health care.

However, transitioning minors and young adults should NOT be taken lightly, and there needs to be much more scrutiny of hospitals, therapists, and the entire industry.

It’s really hard to get admitted to the psychiatric hospital. This young person was admitted to the hospital after an incident that they describe as “cutting” and that the Christian therapist describes as a suicide attempt. The parents then refused to engage in conversation about their kid’s needs and kept turning the conversation to their own agenda. To me that seems like the parents are the ones taking the situation “lightly”.

As far as your comment that hospitals shouldn’t transition adults (young or old) lightly, the transition that the young person made was a social one. Adults absolutely have the right to use the pronouns they want.

right, but the problem is the nexus between the psychiatric hospitalization and the push to transition. Despite what is claimed, transition is not therapy for suicidality. I’d be extremely wary of a hospital that was taking that approach. Having him foster as a minor with a friend of Children’s staff and aparently also develop a personal relationship with a Children’s staff member to the extent they moved in together is also probablematic. Otherwise, agree with PP that the article is obviously one-sided.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.

The ADULT is living with the hospital chaplain. The article which is designed to get you up and arms skirts around the question of whether they were an adult when that happened. The kid turned 18 in March 2023. The foster mother died "sometime in 2023", so there's at least a 75% chance, more if the birthday is in early March, that the foster mom died after they were an adult. It's also not clear if they went immediately from the foster home to the chaplain's home. It seems likely, given that the goal of the article is to make people upset, that it was after their 18th birthday, because they'd say so otherwise. But I guess there's a small chance they weren't.

But most likely this was an adult with a high IQ and a college degree. They can live where they like.

Technically. But there were a lot of shady things going on leading up to that 18th birthday.

IMO it should not be up to politicians to make laws about what is good health care.

However, transitioning minors and young adults should NOT be taken lightly, and there needs to be much more scrutiny of hospitals, therapists, and the entire industry.

It’s really hard to get admitted to the psychiatric hospital. This young person was admitted to the hospital after an incident that they describe as “cutting” and that the Christian therapist describes as a suicide attempt. The parents then refused to engage in conversation about their kid’s needs and kept turning the conversation to their own agenda. To me that seems like the parents are the ones taking the situation “lightly”.

As far as your comment that hospitals shouldn’t transition adults (young or old) lightly, the transition that the young person made was a social one. Adults absolutely have the right to use the pronouns they want.

right, but the problem is the nexus between the psychiatric hospitalization and the push to transition. Despite what is claimed, transition is not therapy for suicidality. I’d be extremely wary of a hospital that was taking that approach. Having him foster as a minor with a friend of Children’s staff and aparently also develop a personal relationship with a Children’s staff member to the extent they moved in together is also probablematic. Otherwise, agree with PP that the article is obviously one-sided.

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Anonymous wrote:I can't believe my comment which only said I had been there with my kid and that addressing some anxiety she had, it went away after a year, got deleted. I guess we are not allowed to say that for some (and judging for my dd's cohort, for the great majority) it is a phase?

Thank you for saying that! I've been researching that ~80% grow out of it and it's really a coping mechanism for other mental health issues.

Anonymous wrote:I can't believe my comment which only said I had been there with my kid and that addressing some anxiety she had, it went away after a year, got deleted. I guess we are not allowed to say that for some (and judging for my dd's cohort, for the great majority) it is a phase?

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Anonymous wrote:Well anyone reputable will be affirming, so I am not sure I can help.

Anyone reputable will also work with her on healing from her father’s abandonment.

Anyone reputable will be affirming? Really? I would expect anyone reputable would be nonjudgmental but isn’t the point to see where the dysphoria comes from and whethet it is stable?

settle down MAGA, doing that os part of what "affirming" means

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.

The ADULT is living with the hospital chaplain. The article which is designed to get you up and arms skirts around the question of whether they were an adult when that happened. The kid turned 18 in March 2023. The foster mother died "sometime in 2023", so there's at least a 75% chance, more if the birthday is in early March, that the foster mom died after they were an adult. It's also not clear if they went immediately from the foster home to the chaplain's home. It seems likely, given that the goal of the article is to make people upset, that it was after their 18th birthday, because they'd say so otherwise. But I guess there's a small chance they weren't.

But most likely this was an adult with a high IQ and a college degree. They can live where they like.

Technically. But there were a lot of shady things going on leading up to that 18th birthday.

IMO it should not be up to politicians to make laws about what is good health care.

However, transitioning minors and young adults should NOT be taken lightly, and there needs to be much more scrutiny of hospitals, therapists, and the entire industry.

It’s really hard to get admitted to the psychiatric hospital. This young person was admitted to the hospital after an incident that they describe as “cutting” and that the Christian therapist describes as a suicide attempt. The parents then refused to engage in conversation about their kid’s needs and kept turning the conversation to their own agenda. To me that seems like the parents are the ones taking the situation “lightly”.

As far as your comment that hospitals shouldn’t transition adults (young or old) lightly, the transition that the young person made was a social one. Adults absolutely have the right to use the pronouns they want.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.

The ADULT is living with the hospital chaplain. The article which is designed to get you up and arms skirts around the question of whether they were an adult when that happened. The kid turned 18 in March 2023. The foster mother died "sometime in 2023", so there's at least a 75% chance, more if the birthday is in early March, that the foster mom died after they were an adult. It's also not clear if they went immediately from the foster home to the chaplain's home. It seems likely, given that the goal of the article is to make people upset, that it was after their 18th birthday, because they'd say so otherwise. But I guess there's a small chance they weren't.

But most likely this was an adult with a high IQ and a college degree. They can live where they like.

Technically. But there were a lot of shady things going on leading up to that 18th birthday.

IMO it should not be up to politicians to make laws about what is good health care.

However, transitioning minors and young adults should NOT be taken lightly, and there needs to be much more scrutiny of hospitals, therapists, and the entire industry.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.

The ADULT is living with the hospital chaplain. The article which is designed to get you up and arms skirts around the question of whether they were an adult when that happened. The kid turned 18 in March 2023. The foster mother died "sometime in 2023", so there's at least a 75% chance, more if the birthday is in early March, that the foster mom died after they were an adult. It's also not clear if they went immediately from the foster home to the chaplain's home. It seems likely, given that the goal of the article is to make people upset, that it was after their 18th birthday, because they'd say so otherwise. But I guess there's a small chance they weren't.

But most likely this was an adult with a high IQ and a college degree. They can live where they like.

Technically. But there were a lot of shady things going on leading up to that 18th birthday.

IMO it should not be up to politicians to make laws about what is good health care.

However, transitioning minors and young adults should NOT be taken lightly, and there needs to be much more scrutiny of hospitals, therapists, and the entire industry.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.

The ADULT is living with the hospital chaplain. The article which is designed to get you up and arms skirts around the question of whether they were an adult when that happened. The kid turned 18 in March 2023. The foster mother died "sometime in 2023", so there's at least a 75% chance, more if the birthday is in early March, that the foster mom died after they were an adult. It's also not clear if they went immediately from the foster home to the chaplain's home. It seems likely, given that the goal of the article is to make people upset, that it was after their 18th birthday, because they'd say so otherwise. But I guess there's a small chance they weren't.

But most likely this was an adult with a high IQ and a college degree. They can live where they like.

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Anonymous wrote:Wrong link above: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-13668663/Maryland-family-lost-custody-16-year-old-autistic-son.html

That link doesn't support what you said either.

DP. I don’t think the lawsuit is over. But what happened is terrible and raises some deep questions about the hospital’s ethics. I do believe that boy, and other vulnerable children, are/were being trafficked.

https://washingtonstand.com/commentary/childrens-national-hospital-ignores-teens-mental-health-to-indulge-gender-ideology

That is an incredibly one sided article. Some of that is because the psychiatric program at Children's National and CPS are both bound by confidentiality, so they can't respond to the allegations. There is no way of knowing from that article whether there were ongoing safety concerns that prevented the kid from going home.

It's interesting that in the same article they argue that the young person needed to be released from the hospital to graduate from college, and that somehow because they have autism they need to be treated as a child, denied the right to choose who they live with as an adult, and forced to undergo a mental health exam. The article talks about "returning the child to the parents", but that child is in fact a 19 year old.

It's also interesting that they talk about how the counselor that was brought in is "licensed in multiple states", while side stepping the question of whether he is licensed in DC, the only license that would be relevant to him participating in a therapy session in DC.

To be clear, it's possible that the hospital was 100% wrong here. But it's also quite possible that the parents are painting a very biased picture, and there were legitimate safety concerns that warranted the extended hospital stay, and CPS's decision.

And the child living with hospital chaplain? WTF! So many levels of crazy here and conflict of interest going on.