Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t have strong opinions on the charter model as policy over all, but according to the theory, this is what’s SUPPOSED to happen. The authorizing board is supposed go approve a bunch of schools and close the ones that don’t perform. The intention was never really to “support” them. That’s what school districts do. Charters are supposed to sink or swim. The timing sucks but I think a purist would say that that’s on the school, not the board. The board has to wait for them to be insolvent or whatever the conditions are to close it. They can’t declare it dead when it’s not quite dead yet.
Come on that's insane. It's not supposed to be sink or swim. It's supposed to be that warning signs and poor financial data means being put on a corrective action plan. Which the PCSB has the right to do, but failed to do until very late in the process. The PCSB does not have to wait for the conditions to be unfixable. It can, should, and does intervene. It just missed the boat on this one.
I was swimming in the pro-charter policy waters 20 years ago when this all was catching on, and I think you’re wrong. That’s probably what it has become, but that wasn’t the concept.
Well, that was 20 years ago. In the present, the PCSB has various ways to intervene, and they failed to use them.
DP. Obviously the best intervention would have been to close the school before the school year started, before the lottery. But the school wasn't insolvent then, do closing it would not have been the right thing to do at that time.
People view charter schools in DC as regular public schools, as another branch of DCPS. But they aren't.
this was all predictable but so many idiots citizens voting for charter loving politicians. i blame the mayor in part, she is part of this lineage. if you werent living here 15/20 yrs ago you dont know. the entire concept is dumb and inefficient
Anonymous wrote:I have worked at a charter school (in another city). I find in general that they are not well run from the business side of things. Often times the head of school has no knowledge of the true financials behind a school and I find they don’t always get the best financial planners for COO or business manager. It is a flawed system. DCPS is propped up for central office and the city government so principals aren’t paying mortgages or rents or able to spend more money than they have.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What other charters have serious financial issues? Is it all a black box?
You can look at the FAR reports. https://dcpcsb.org/financial-analysis-reports You can skim through for debt ratio and days of cash on hand, which are good, easy to read metrics. And sometimes the board meeting minutes of the schools. It's really appalling how some schools just ignore the requirement to post minutes, or whose minutes reveal basically nothing, though.
But there's always the question of whether the information is being truthfully reported to the board of each school and to the PCSB, which seems to have been an issue with Eagle.
It seems like a lot of charters fail in their first few years or at their 5-year renewal. But there was also the Amos scandal in 2015, and the failure of Washington Mathematics Science and Technology, which was the sad fall of a 20-year school due to getting upside down on a mortgage. I wonder if the PCSB tends to give schools with a long track record the benefit of the doubt, which is a mistake in the case of Eagle and WMS&T.
Anonymous wrote:What other charters have serious financial issues? Is it all a black box?
Anonymous wrote:I have worked at a charter school (in another city). I find in general that they are not well run from the business side of things. Often times the head of school has no knowledge of the true financials behind a school and I find they don’t always get the best financial planners for COO or business manager. It is a flawed system. DCPS is propped up for central office and the city government so principals aren’t paying mortgages or rents or able to spend more money than they have.
Anonymous wrote:What other charters have serious financial issues? Is it all a black box?
Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t have strong opinions on the charter model as policy over all, but according to the theory, this is what’s SUPPOSED to happen. The authorizing board is supposed go approve a bunch of schools and close the ones that don’t perform. The intention was never really to “support” them. That’s what school districts do. Charters are supposed to sink or swim. The timing sucks but I think a purist would say that that’s on the school, not the board. The board has to wait for them to be insolvent or whatever the conditions are to close it. They can’t declare it dead when it’s not quite dead yet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I honestly don’t have strong opinions on the charter model as policy over all, but according to the theory, this is what’s SUPPOSED to happen. The authorizing board is supposed go approve a bunch of schools and close the ones that don’t perform. The intention was never really to “support” them. That’s what school districts do. Charters are supposed to sink or swim. The timing sucks but I think a purist would say that that’s on the school, not the board. The board has to wait for them to be insolvent or whatever the conditions are to close it. They can’t declare it dead when it’s not quite dead yet.
Come on that's insane. It's not supposed to be sink or swim. It's supposed to be that warning signs and poor financial data means being put on a corrective action plan. Which the PCSB has the right to do, but failed to do until very late in the process. The PCSB does not have to wait for the conditions to be unfixable. It can, should, and does intervene. It just missed the boat on this one.
I was swimming in the pro-charter policy waters 20 years ago when this all was catching on, and I think you’re wrong. That’s probably what it has become, but that wasn’t the concept.
Well, that was 20 years ago. In the present, the PCSB has various ways to intervene, and they failed to use them.
DP. Obviously the best intervention would have been to close the school before the school year started, before the lottery. But the school wasn't insolvent then, do closing it would not have been the right thing to do at that time.
People view charter schools in DC as regular public schools, as another branch of DCPS. But they aren't.
Anonymous wrote:The school has had issues for years. Former ED was shopping/gambling addict who stole money from school. School needed to close.