Anonymous
08/21/2024 11:07
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All 5s on 10 APs with a VERY high ACT/SAT.
Tons of kids here take APs. Very few have 5s on all tests.
Mine had that and higher SAT so no.
Here is your OP.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 11:06
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:DD is a sophomore at Princeton majoring in chemistry.
Not a legacy, RD, not an athlete, not full pay. We pay about 50% of sticker price.
Gpa- 4.0 straight A’s, 10 AP, all 5s
35 ACT, 1550 SAT (790 math)
Volleyball for 4 years of HS, varsity captain
Essays about being bad at volleyball and working hard to become one of the best players in her HS
NOT in NHS
No awards other than the AP distinction ones
No research, no paid job
I’m curious to know what you think got her in because we know so many kids with better stats and other stuff that flat out got rejected.
Odd. No reason why she should have gotten in. Maybe best for you and your daughter to keep your mouths shut. I'm guessing it was a mistake.
Do you not understand that this OP was not written by the girls mom? It is written by another parent who posts here that their child had “everything the same or better” and was waitlisted.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 10:10
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:You have to request to see the file and I bet the answer will be several things you never would have expected.
A friend of mine said her niece in Canada had super great stats, ECs, etc., double-legacy at Penn and flat out rejected ED.
Ended up getting accepted RD at Harvard (after similarly shut out of other top schools), and was so shocked that her niece immediately requested the file as a freshman.
Turns out the likely reason she was rejected at Penn and others was that her school counselor wrote a very "Canadian" recommendation. Wasn't bad, but just very meh...kid does fine at school, think the kid will do OK in college but not certain, etc. I gather counselor recommendations aren't needed for Canadian colleges.
Harvard noted on the file that they have accepted some kids from the school and this is how this counselor has written every recommendation. It's possible the other top schools had no real experience with this school and didn't understand that this is how the counselor recommendation looks for everyone from that school.
So...you never know what is happening behind the scenes unless you ask.
That’s fascinating…HS track record with a college DOES matter…
Anonymous
08/21/2024 10:02
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Good grief, that Canadian counselor needs to get a clue!
Anonymous
08/21/2024 09:56
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
There are many great pathways for girls who are strong in science. If she wanted to be a history major probably would have been a different story.
Best of luck to your DD!
Best of luck to your DD!
Anonymous
08/21/2024 09:42
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:DD is a sophomore at Princeton majoring in chemistry.
Not a legacy, RD, not an athlete, not full pay. We pay about 50% of sticker price.
Gpa- 4.0 straight A’s, 10 AP, all 5s
35 ACT, 1550 SAT (790 math)
Volleyball for 4 years of HS, varsity captain
Essays about being bad at volleyball and working hard to become one of the best players in her HS
NOT in NHS
No awards other than the AP distinction ones
No research, no paid job
I’m curious to know what you think got her in because we know so many kids with better stats and other stuff that flat out got rejected.
Odd. No reason why she should have gotten in. Maybe best for you and your daughter to keep your mouths shut. I'm guessing it was a mistake.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 09:33
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
You have to request to see the file and I bet the answer will be several things you never would have expected.
A friend of mine said her niece in Canada had super great stats, ECs, etc., double-legacy at Penn and flat out rejected ED.
Ended up getting accepted RD at Harvard (after similarly shut out of other top schools), and was so shocked that her niece immediately requested the file as a freshman.
Turns out the likely reason she was rejected at Penn and others was that her school counselor wrote a very "Canadian" recommendation. Wasn't bad, but just very meh...kid does fine at school, think the kid will do OK in college but not certain, etc. I gather counselor recommendations aren't needed for Canadian colleges.
Harvard noted on the file that they have accepted some kids from the school and this is how this counselor has written every recommendation. It's possible the other top schools had no real experience with this school and didn't understand that this is how the counselor recommendation looks for everyone from that school.
So...you never know what is happening behind the scenes unless you ask.
A friend of mine said her niece in Canada had super great stats, ECs, etc., double-legacy at Penn and flat out rejected ED.
Ended up getting accepted RD at Harvard (after similarly shut out of other top schools), and was so shocked that her niece immediately requested the file as a freshman.
Turns out the likely reason she was rejected at Penn and others was that her school counselor wrote a very "Canadian" recommendation. Wasn't bad, but just very meh...kid does fine at school, think the kid will do OK in college but not certain, etc. I gather counselor recommendations aren't needed for Canadian colleges.
Harvard noted on the file that they have accepted some kids from the school and this is how this counselor has written every recommendation. It's possible the other top schools had no real experience with this school and didn't understand that this is how the counselor recommendation looks for everyone from that school.
So...you never know what is happening behind the scenes unless you ask.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 09:24
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Not from the proportion of Asians in these schools, I don't. They're wildly out of proportion with the general population. It's a HUGE advantage to be Asian.
Does it occur to you that Asians have actually higher stats than others on average? So no, they are not over represented at all. In my daughter public high school, they are pretty much equal demographics( white, Asian, Hispanics), yet the top 10% of the 850+ class are mostly Asians. And having 12 APs, all 5s, is pretty common.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 08:56
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What race did she put on her application?
How is that relevant to anything. Or are you suggesting maybe she's Asian, who have a huge advantage in these Ivy League admissions?
Um, no. You've got it backwards.
Not from the proportion of Asians in these schools, I don't. They're wildly out of proportion with the general population. It's a HUGE advantage to be Asian.
Its only an advantage as being white in lacrosse or being black in basketball, Asians are academically gifted and hard worker.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 08:47
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Teacher and counselor recommendations
This is possible.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 08:45
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
What got her in is something OP left out, like (as PPs have mentioned) race, 1st gen, geography, etc. Some institutional priority.
Tons of applicants have the same stats and are not admitted.
Tons of applicants have the same stats and are not admitted.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 08:43
Subject: Re:Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Did she apply EA? My son didn’t because we were told nobody gets in and it was a waste of restrictive EA. He was WL RD and makes us wonder if he applied EA if he would have gotten in. They don’t WL many, just outright reject RD.
We did, didn't help. Got waitlisted.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 08:41
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Rising sophomore? Expansion year.
Could be.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 08:40
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:All 5s on 10 APs with a VERY high ACT/SAT.
Tons of kids here take APs. Very few have 5s on all tests.
Mine had that and higher SAT so no.
Anonymous
08/21/2024 08:39
Subject: Which of these got my DD into Princeton?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All 5s on 10 APs with a VERY high ACT/SAT.
Tons of kids here take APs. Very few have 5s on all tests.
+1
And you are paying half the sticker price, so they didn’t have to offer $$ money to get her.
Mine was all that and full pay so can't be that.