I consider college to be pretty average these days. But it is considered higher education, and many people around the world don't get that high up. In the DC area it is not uncommon to have a Masters or JD/MD.

So my answer to your question is still a Bachelors.

Ultimately, does it really matter how high you got unless you're in academia?

Anonymous wrote:I don't think any Masters out there makes one highly educated. At least not if using a DMV lens.

I would consider a physician highly educated but not a JD, although it's just a difference of a year.

Maybe because all physicians start with at least 3 additional years of practical education.

Neither doctors nor lawyers stop their education after graduation. These professions require an ongoing continuing education in order to maintain their licenses.

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Anonymous wrote:More than one terminal degree

No. A PhD is a terminal degree, while the MA along the way is not considered terminal. By your definition someone highly educated would need two PhDs, which is nonsense.

You can have an MFA, JD, MD or any number of terminal degrees that are not PhDs

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted with many doctors, doctorates who I do not consider highly educated. Highly educated to me means someone who is well read and aware of different culture’s traditions and views, who is not resistant to learning.

I also believe this is key. They present as interesting people who listen as opposed to people who think they know everything and don't listent.

No, highly educated doesn’t mean they listen well. It means they have completed a high level of education. It’s not (or shouldn’t be) a compliment or a criticism, just a statement of fact. The may be good or bad listeners, arrogant or humble, rude or considerate.

They may have completed it but did they fully understand concepts, or did they scrape by with minimum grades or rote memorization for the day of the exam?

You canNOT get a PhD with minimum grade and rote memorization. MD and JD are specifically designed to ensure you memorize terrifying amounts of information. But you definitely also have to understand the concepts to get your degree.

Autocorrect did me dirty 😂

You have a PhD in education then?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted with many doctors, doctorates who I do not consider highly educated. Highly educated to me means someone who is well read and aware of different culture’s traditions and views, who is not resistant to learning.

I also believe this is key. They present as interesting people who listen as opposed to people who think they know everything and don't listent.

No, highly educated doesn’t mean they listen well. It means they have completed a high level of education. It’s not (or shouldn’t be) a compliment or a criticism, just a statement of fact. The may be good or bad listeners, arrogant or humble, rude or considerate.

They may have completed it but did they fully understand concepts, or did they scrape by with minimum grades or rote memorization for the day of the exam?

You canNOT get a PhD with minimum grade and rote memorization. MD and JD are specifically designed to ensure you memorize terrifying amounts of information. But you definitely also have to understand the concepts to get your degree.

Autocorrect did me dirty 😂

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted with many doctors, doctorates who I do not consider highly educated. Highly educated to me means someone who is well read and aware of different culture’s traditions and views, who is not resistant to learning.

I also believe this is key. They present as interesting people who listen as opposed to people who think they know everything and don't listent.

No, highly educated doesn’t mean they listen well. It means they have completed a high level of education. It’s not (or shouldn’t be) a compliment or a criticism, just a statement of fact. The may be good or bad listeners, arrogant or humble, rude or considerate.

They may have completed it but did they fully understand concepts, or did they scrape by with minimum grades or rote memorization for the day of the exam?

You can get a PhD with minimum grade and rote memorization. MD and JD are specifically designed to ensure you memorize terrifying amounts of information. But you definitely also have to understand the concepts to get your degree.

So you're studying/studied for a PhD and are questioning whether it was all worth it when you look at higher paid friends who decided against this?

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Anonymous wrote:So the founder of Microsoft would not be highly educated.

Okay.

That's correct. He's brilliant, but he's not "highly educated."

"Educated" doesn't do the work people think it does. It means something specific, and that thing is not "smart."

Beyond his business endeavors, Gates reads so many books. He travels the world talking to world leaders and ordinary people too. He created an enormous foundation fighting poverty and disease.

You think someone who studies one thing such as Plutach's vision on Alexander the Great for years is more educated?

The root word is "educare"--to lead out, which implies that someone else is leading the person being educated. This is why autodidacts get the modifier "self" in "self-educated."

The process of becoming educated involves mastery of one or more disciplines, which gives the educated person a specific set of lenses with which to view problems and imagine solutions. Nobody creates a discipline alone. This includes Gates, no matter how many people he talks to. He is well-read and well-traveled and a very smart guy--all of which some "highly educated" people are not--but those things don't make him "highly educated."

Whether your example Plutarch obsessive is actually more educated, IDK. Has this person convincingly demonstrated systematic inculcation in the disciplines associated with classical studies (including the languages)? Then yes. If this person is super into the one text and has memorized it and read it until the book is falling apart, but has no understanding of its place in relationship to the rest of human knowledge and achievement, then no--that person is not "highly educated."

This is what I mean when I say that "educated" doesn't do the work people think it does, as a word.

Anonymous wrote:More than one terminal degree

No. A PhD is a terminal degree, while the MA along the way is not considered terminal. By your definition someone highly educated would need two PhDs, which is nonsense.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted with many doctors, doctorates who I do not consider highly educated. Highly educated to me means someone who is well read and aware of different culture’s traditions and views, who is not resistant to learning.

I also believe this is key. They present as interesting people who listen as opposed to people who think they know everything and don't listent.

No, highly educated doesn’t mean they listen well. It means they have completed a high level of education. It’s not (or shouldn’t be) a compliment or a criticism, just a statement of fact. The may be good or bad listeners, arrogant or humble, rude or considerate.

They may have completed it but did they fully understand concepts, or did they scrape by with minimum grades or rote memorization for the day of the exam?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted with many doctors, doctorates who I do not consider highly educated. Highly educated to me means someone who is well read and aware of different culture’s traditions and views, who is not resistant to learning.

I also believe this is key. They present as interesting people who listen as opposed to people who think they know everything and don't listent.

No, highly educated doesn’t mean they listen well. It means they have completed a high level of education. It’s not (or shouldn’t be) a compliment or a criticism, just a statement of fact. The may be good or bad listeners, arrogant or humble, rude or considerate.

Never anyone posting on this website!

Anonymous wrote:Physicians and PhDs I know behave like uneducated people.
Highly educated means a combination of learning from a variety of experiences since you were a toddler, family involvement, and degree (1,2) at well regarded universities.

I'd cut the well-regarded bit. Not everyone has access to those universities geographically or financially.

If a person is committed to learning and has access to resources, be it a library or a university or the internet, they can learn.

Physicians and PhDs I know behave like uneducated people.
Highly educated means a combination of learning from a variety of experiences since you were a toddler, family involvement, and degree (1,2) at well regarded universities.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve interacted with many doctors, doctorates who I do not consider highly educated. Highly educated to me means someone who is well read and aware of different culture’s traditions and views, who is not resistant to learning.

Yep.