Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 15:15     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like they charged a bunch of money and didn’t deliver what they should have. Wondering if there will be consequences beyond what the Red Cross has done.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/07/17/red-cross-certification-revoked/


Could this just be a mistake or something? Is there no room for mistakes anymore? I have no ties to any of this btw.


Interesting.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 14:43     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:Sounds like they charged a bunch of money and didn’t deliver what they should have. Wondering if there will be consequences beyond what the Red Cross has done.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/dc-md-va/2024/07/17/red-cross-certification-revoked/


Could this just be a mistake or something? Is there no room for mistakes anymore? I have no ties to any of this btw.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 14:20     Subject: Re:Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:Years ago my winter swim coach handed me (and all of my friends on the team) an American Red Cross lifeguard certification card even though we were taught nothing. I got caught when we had a training day at my summer job. I didn’t get fired - they let me stay on doing non-lifeguaring jobs - but I was humiliated and am still haunted by the fact that someone could have died on my watch. Despite being a top swimmer, I had no clue how to save someone. I often think back to the adults involved, the coach and our parents, and wonder what the hell they were thinking.


Appreciate this post.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 11:06     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote: My DC was certified in May, it was a three (very long) day course, several hours of review material prior to class, written test at the outset (if you didn’t pass you couldn’t continue the course) swim test and two and half days of in water rescue practice, cpr and adr training. Four hours is laughable.


I’m assuming that the kids who took this course were largely from the schools where the instructors coached. If that’s the case, seeing how they’re such great schools, these kids are smart enough that they likely only needed 4 hours to learn what normal kids need 3 days to grasp.


The kids at these schools likely do nothing for 3.5 years of high school because they are so smart they learn everything they need to know in semester 1. Why would a lifeguarding certification be any different?
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 08:11     Subject: Re:Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Years ago my winter swim coach handed me (and all of my friends on the team) an American Red Cross lifeguard certification card even though we were taught nothing. I got caught when we had a training day at my summer job. I didn’t get fired - they let me stay on doing non-lifeguaring jobs - but I was humiliated and am still haunted by the fact that someone could have died on my watch. Despite being a top swimmer, I had no clue how to save someone. I often think back to the adults involved, the coach and our parents, and wonder what the hell they were thinking.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 07:40     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote: My DC was certified in May, it was a three (very long) day course, several hours of review material prior to class, written test at the outset (if you didn’t pass you couldn’t continue the course) swim test and two and half days of in water rescue practice, cpr and adr training. Four hours is laughable.


I’m assuming that the kids who took this course were largely from the schools where the instructors coached. If that’s the case, seeing how they’re such great schools, these kids are smart enough that they likely only needed 4 hours to learn what normal kids need 3 days to grasp.
Anonymous
Post 07/19/2024 07:14     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:This involves three all-girls schools. Is that a coincidence? I don’t know and that’s why I’m asking.



Yes, all girls schools are known for ripping people off.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 22:15     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
This involves three all-girls schools. Is that a coincidence? I don’t know and that’s why I’m asking.

Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 21:50     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Kenwood club should ban these coaches from holding any classes at the club at least for 3 years


They should be banned forever.


Kenwood won’t do a thing. The Stone Ridge swim coach is also a coach at Kenwood and a long-time member. Unless one of the students goes after the coach for the $400 + lost wages and names Kenwood, too. Not a hard case since she already admitted she did it.
Then Kenwood would probably settle to make it go away.

Schools won’t do anything either.

So no consequences.

And they get to keep the 10 grand.



Total money grab. They were probably not even paying the club a fee to use the facility for this. Wow. I have a kid at one of these schools and I am not impressed. Wonder what the schools would do if a student got caught running this scam.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 21:47     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
When you combine Kenwood and Holton, the grift is on !
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 21:24     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
The kid in the article has more common sense than every single one of the instructors, one of whom runs the upper school at Holton Arms.

Parents at Holton Arms should ask what corners are being cut over there too!

Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 20:45     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a shocking story. I seriously question the judgement of these swim coaches. I hope they get strong reprimands from their schools.
I would not be thrilled if these folks are my kids swim coaches


Of all of the things to clutch your pearls about this one is not so shocking. Someone overcharged for a bad life guarding course, I hope you’ve alerted the FBI. You won’t believe what some private school teachers charge for tutoring, which may or may not be effective. Who keeps on bringing up this story?


Who keeps defending this fraud?


I’m also wondering who is so aggressively wanting this to be a complete non-issue


This has to be either one of the coaches or their spouse. I can't imagine anyone else who would defend this.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 20:41     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
What actually happened is way worse than what I envisioned after reading the first thread on this topic.

I figured one kid who was not already certified accidentally completed a recertification program and got a full certificate in the mail that he had not earned. The article makes it clear the impact was much, much greater than that.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 20:35     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:KENWOOD is known a COUNTRY CLUB for people not invited to join CHEVY CHASE, CONGRESSIONAL or COLUMBIA. So they need members and will NOT do ANYTHING

Wrong. Kenwood is not a country club. It is a for-profit club owned by some backcountry hillbillies.

Also, quite a few Kenwood members eventually get into those other clubs.
Anonymous
Post 07/18/2024 20:12     Subject: Swim coaches at SR, HA, and NCS/St A’s involved in lifeguarding scandal
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This is a shocking story. I seriously question the judgement of these swim coaches. I hope they get strong reprimands from their schools.
I would not be thrilled if these folks are my kids swim coaches


Of all of the things to clutch your pearls about this one is not so shocking. Someone overcharged for a bad life guarding course, I hope you’ve alerted the FBI. You won’t believe what some private school teachers charge for tutoring, which may or may not be effective. Who keeps on bringing up this story?


Who keeps defending this fraud?


I’m also wondering who is so aggressively wanting this to be a complete non-issue


If I had to guess... it would be one of the coaches who was there in a "support" role. Perhaps this guy quoted in the Post article?
“I think it’s unfair what was done to the instructors — not at least giving them an opportunity to retrain,” Bettencourt said. “They do a great service for the community.”

I wonder how much cash he walked away with that day for his "support"?