Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:54     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am furious. I cannot in good conscience vote for either one of them. That we are put in this position is completely unacceptable. The whole world is watching in shock and horror that this is the best that the US can offer up.


First, the man you are calling senile is not, in fact senile. So your choice is between an old man, and an old man who wants to be a dictator.

Choose wisely.


Oh come on. The gaslighting is unreal. Of course Biden is senile. Anyone with an elderly relative with dementia recognizes it.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:53     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:The US is an oligarchy run by right wing billionaires. They are laughing their asses off at how we are fighting each other while they make more money. Citizens United was the catalyst.


I agree with this but not all the billionaires are right-wing. However the left-wing ones are also extremely toxic.

It’s an oligarchy no matter what.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:44     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:There will be other candidates on the ballot. You and everyone else will have other options. Write-in votes count as well. Organize a 50 state operation to challenge the status quo.


+1 complaining does nothing. What do you want to happen? Realistically?


All complaining does is help Trump. I am also furious with the democratic party for getting us into this situation, from choosing Biden in the first place and Kamala as VP, to Biden himself for running again. But I recognize that Biden is actually not that bad - his record is not awful, nearly everything people are unhappy with is fallout from Trump's presidency, and he at least tries to do the job well and surrounds himself with really good, competent people. Compare to a dictator wanna-be who is incompetent, lazy, and narcissistic, and who doesn't give a damn about the country. This is a no-brainer.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:31     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:I’m a lifelong Repub and can’t believe my party selected a lying felon. I can’t vote red this time.

No worries. You never did!
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:29     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

I’m a lifelong Repub and can’t believe my party selected a lying felon. I can’t vote red this time.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:17     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:No such thing as a protest vote. Stomp your feet all you want but voting third party or not voting at all is exactly what our enemies want.

Vote in every election, at every level.


So again, you have no actual choice. The system is slated so much that you *have* to vote for one of the major party candidates, whether they held a real primary or not. The other party put up a felon as their candidate. Do you actually have a choice? Is this actually democracy?


Yes, it is. We had a primary. These are now the choices.




We had a primary?? 🤣 You're joking, right?


No. I’m a lifetime Dem who voted for Nikki Haley because although I disagree with her on many issues, she’s a sane, mature adult. If she were the R nominee, I could rest easy knowing America would be ok no matter what happened. But here we are, on the cusp of killing America because so many people are ok with a lifetime conman felon who talks like a 4th grade bully, salutes North Korean generals, insults disabled people and military members, worships dictators and has to hold rallies even while in office to soothe his fragile ego. Idiocracy.


I am also a lifelong democrat who voted for Nikki Haley in the republican primary. My first ever vote cast for a republican. And if she had won the nomination, I'm positive I would have voted for her over Biden. But, if the democrats put forth any of the other candidates that have mentioned, I would vote for that person over any republican.


I also voted for Haley, but there's no way I'd vote for any Republican for President right now considering what their Supreme Court Justices are doing - not to mention the lower courts.

I can't stress this enough - if you are a "lifelong Democrat" you MUST vote for the Democratic nominee for President for no other reason than his/her power to affect the judiciary.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:12     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:The Dems need to groom the next generation of leaders asap. We need 30 somethings to be recruited and mentored for public service. We need 40 somethings to be ready for the big league so we have good options when it’s time for the next primary.

The ideal presidential candidate is 45-60 (with 60 pushing it when you think about the ideal scenario is a year of campaigning followed by 8 years of leadership).

The metric should be intelligence coupled with charisma and gravitas. We need someone fast on their feet who exudes confidence backed up by intellect and a strong moral compass.

Recognizing that everyone will be put through the wringer and ultimately must win a popularity contest, we must abandon the identity politics approach of selecting candidates based on gender or skin color.


There are plenty of next gen:

Kamala
Bashear
Whitmer (there are actually 4-5 from Michigan)
Wes Moore
Newsome
Jeffries

Those alone wopuld all make fine candidates now, in 2028 or 2032 (assuming we still have elections)

There are a ton of GenZ who are already very politically active, articulate, smart and ready for service.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:10     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:I am furious. I cannot in good conscience vote for either one of them. That we are put in this position is completely unacceptable. The whole world is watching in shock and horror that this is the best that the US can offer up.


First, the man you are calling senile is not, in fact senile. So your choice is between an old man, and an old man who wants to be a dictator.

Choose wisely.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:08     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No such thing as a protest vote. Stomp your feet all you want but voting third party or not voting at all is exactly what our enemies want.

Vote in every election, at every level.


So again, you have no actual choice. The system is slated so much that you *have* to vote for one of the major party candidates, whether they held a real primary or not. The other party put up a felon as their candidate. Do you actually have a choice? Is this actually democracy?


Yes, it is. We had a primary. These are now the choices.




We had a primary?? 🤣 You're joking, right?


No. I’m a lifetime Dem who voted for Nikki Haley because although I disagree with her on many issues, she’s a sane, mature adult. If she were the R nominee, I could rest easy knowing America would be ok no matter what happened. But here we are, on the cusp of killing America because so many people are ok with a lifetime conman felon who talks like a 4th grade bully, salutes North Korean generals, insults disabled people and military members, worships dictators and has to hold rallies even while in office to soothe his fragile ego. Idiocracy.


I am also a lifelong democrat who voted for Nikki Haley in the republican primary. My first ever vote cast for a republican. And if she had won the nomination, I'm positive I would have voted for her over Biden. But, if the democrats put forth any of the other candidates that have mentioned, I would vote for that person over any republican.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:07     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:Vote Blue no matter who!!

Closely consider the alternative.



Oooh, because you rhymed - definitely!
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:05     Subject: Re:It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I cannot tell you how absolutely pissed I am that Biden is not stepping aside. It’s selfish as hell. Why didn’t he come out with his governor delegates yesterday?

None of this makes any sense to me.

Biden should be doing regular live press conferences to get on top of this awful narrative. That just makes it abundantly clear that he is not up to this campaign…and that the narrative that he’s declining is absolutely true.

Biden needs to resign now.


Fully agree. Lifelong Dem


Me too! I've never voted for a Republican even. I like Joe but if he cares about this country's future, he needs to step aside.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:04     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:I am furious. I cannot in good conscience vote for either one of them. That we are put in this position is completely unacceptable. The whole world is watching in shock and horror that this is the best that the US can offer up.


A senile old man seems harsh but he's definitely lost a step or two. In Trump's case he's a criminal but a delusional one at best. Nothing he says is remotely true. He does not have a firm grip on reality and seems mentally unbalanced.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 11:00     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

The Dems need to groom the next generation of leaders asap. We need 30 somethings to be recruited and mentored for public service. We need 40 somethings to be ready for the big league so we have good options when it’s time for the next primary.

The ideal presidential candidate is 45-60 (with 60 pushing it when you think about the ideal scenario is a year of campaigning followed by 8 years of leadership).

The metric should be intelligence coupled with charisma and gravitas. We need someone fast on their feet who exudes confidence backed up by intellect and a strong moral compass.

Recognizing that everyone will be put through the wringer and ultimately must win a popularity contest, we must abandon the identity politics approach of selecting candidates based on gender or skin color.
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 10:56     Subject: Re:It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:I cannot tell you how absolutely pissed I am that Biden is not stepping aside. It’s selfish as hell. Why didn’t he come out with his governor delegates yesterday?

None of this makes any sense to me.

Biden should be doing regular live press conferences to get on top of this awful narrative. That just makes it abundantly clear that he is not up to this campaign…and that the narrative that he’s declining is absolutely true.

Biden needs to resign now.


Fully agree. Lifelong Dem
Anonymous
Post 07/04/2024 10:55     Subject: It is insulting to us American voters that we have to choose between a senile old man and a criminal

Anonymous wrote:To their credit, Republicans did have a real primary. And Nikki Haley did remarkably well against the former president. Unfortunately, anti-Trump sentiment within the GOP was split between Haley, DeSantis, Scott, Vivek and the others during the early primaries, which allowed Trump to gather the wins and consolidate a majority of delegates. If it had just been Trump against Haley from the beginning, I think the end result might have been different. Trump was not winning more than 50 percent of voters in those early primaries.

But, in any event, Republicans had a true primary with several plausible candidates. There was a competitive process and voters had a chance to choose among several alternatives.

Contrast this to the coronation that Democrats chose. Democrats decided not to have a competitive, democratic primary that allowed voters to choose among several alternatives. Democrats decided that America's only alternative to Trump would be a rapidly declining unpopular geriatric who will be 86 in his second term. It is democrats that chose autocracy. For democrats, it is the elites that choose who will be president, not voters. Might as well call it the Monarchy Party.

You must be new to politics. How much of a primary was there on the Republican side in 2020?