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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the rest of the government doing their job and invoking the 25th Amendment right now?

Biden will be withdrawing from the 2024 race very soon or else he will lose in November. Either way, he'll be moving out of the The White House in January 2025. Why go through the long and painful POTUS removal process when he'll be gone in 6 months anyway?

Because Obama can control Biden and he may not be able to pull the strings of a different Democrat. That’s the real struggle here.

Obama is smart enough to know Biden has zero chance at this point. If Obama is loyal to the Dem Party and Americans, he'll urge Biden to step out of the 2024 race. If Obama is more loyal to Biden, he'll keep quiet and comfort Biden when he loses in November.

Obama has already come out post debate for Biden. It is either Biden or an autocracy, there is no other option.

I find it hard to believe Biden doesn't have the decency within him to back out of this race. Fifty years of public service in politics and government and he wants to throw any positive legacy away at the end of his career by being the guy that hand delivers a second term to Trump? I don't think so. He'll bow out gracefully.

We know Biden is cognitively impaired and most likely has some kind of atypical Parkinsons or a variant of progressive dementia, something that was deliberately hidden and covered up by the media, the Biden staffers and senior Democrats, even if their crime was more refusal to talk about it and block anyone else from asking questions about it than a deliberate conspiracy.

But now here's the other secret: Biden is not sharp as a tack. He never was and he never is.

Biden spent his entire career pre-Obama as a third rate mediocre senator from a minor state whose politics shifted with the prevailing winds to remain in favor with the current Democratic party leadership. He went from a 70s era antiwar Democrat to a harsh on crime and welfare Clinton Democrat to pro trans / queer progressive left Democrat of recent years, whose real record is a long list of appointing mediocre people to high office on identity grounds rather than competence. Obama picked him because he was safely useless and wouldn't threaten him and never thought highly of Biden's aptitude (if anything, he thought very lowly of Biden's aptitude). Biden's role was to be the comic sidekick that would always make Obama look better while reassuring the independent voters of 2008 that there's a safe white face on the Obama team.

In 2020, Biden was trailing badly against the other contenders in the early primaries, both Peter Buttigeig and Amy Klobuchar ran rings around him intellectually. But it was his deal with Clyburn to win the black votes in the SC primary (and SC being the state it is, pretty much the only democrats in the state are black) that vaulted him into the frontrunner status and Clyburn gave him the nomination because Biden promised to set aside so many of his cabinet positions and appointees and nominations for blacks, which is why Kamala Harris, a truly awful politician who slept her way to the top, was picked for the role. Had Stacy Abrams won her governorship in 2018, she'd have been the VP nominee, not Harris.

That's Joe Biden for you. And that's the whole truth. Nothing but the simple truth to the man. He is a third rate politician. And like third rate politicians, he doesn't know when to go. He lucked into the presidency. His family isn't giving up the prize when they still have a shot at it for another few years. Maybe because they're also scared that a Trump DOJ would really turn its sights on the Biden cash for influence activities big time.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the rest of the government doing their job and invoking the 25th Amendment right now?

Biden will be withdrawing from the 2024 race very soon or else he will lose in November. Either way, he'll be moving out of the The White House in January 2025. Why go through the long and painful POTUS removal process when he'll be gone in 6 months anyway?

Because Obama can control Biden and he may not be able to pull the strings of a different Democrat. That’s the real struggle here.

Obama is smart enough to know Biden has zero chance at this point. If Obama is loyal to the Dem Party and Americans, he'll urge Biden to step out of the 2024 race. If Obama is more loyal to Biden, he'll keep quiet and comfort Biden when he loses in November.

Obama has already come out post debate for Biden. It is either Biden or an autocracy, there is no other option.

This is the tell that democrats really don't believe democracy is in peril. If they really believed something needed to be done to save the country, they wouldn't back the vegetable in chief.

It is just a sound bite, the jig is up.

Most real Dems are hoping and praying Biden backs out of the 2024 race but if he doesn't, they'll still support the vegetable-in-chief if the alternative is Trump because at the end of the day, Trump serving until 2029 carries more risk than Biden does in that same role. The problem for Dems is that the independent/swing voters are much less likely to support the Dem candidate if Biden remain that candidate and since we desperately need those votes, we can only hope that Biden does the right thing by backing out.

Anonymous wrote:Alan Lichtman says not to replace Biden. Today's SC decision is going to turn this election on head. Abortion, possible two SC vacancies as well as the court's corruption, trump lies and totalitarian plans for his second term. So much for the Dems to run on and win.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/06/30/lichtman-dems-replace-biden/74260967007/

Imagine what a tsunami of an election win it would be if the dems had someone - anyone! - under 70 running. The D SHOULD run away with the election. But if Biden stays we’ll have Trump and his psychos for president

Anonymous wrote:I so hope this isn't true. If he does win, he is setting up a situation where there will be extreme GOP anger because they will never believe it's a fair election. And if he doesn't win, well 4 years of Trump.

It is true. They are having a early shadow election to beat the Ohio deadline for getting Biden on the ballot. Better speak up soon!

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the rest of the government doing their job and invoking the 25th Amendment right now?

Biden will be withdrawing from the 2024 race very soon or else he will lose in November. Either way, he'll be moving out of the The White House in January 2025. Why go through the long and painful POTUS removal process when he'll be gone in 6 months anyway?

Because Obama can control Biden and he may not be able to pull the strings of a different Democrat. That’s the real struggle here.

Obama is smart enough to know Biden has zero chance at this point. If Obama is loyal to the Dem Party and Americans, he'll urge Biden to step out of the 2024 race. If Obama is more loyal to Biden, he'll keep quiet and comfort Biden when he loses in November.

Obama has already come out post debate for Biden. It is either Biden or an autocracy, there is no other option.

This is the tell that democrats really don't believe democracy is in peril. If they really believed something needed to be done to save the country, they wouldn't back the vegetable in chief.

It is just a sound bite, the jig is up.

Anonymous wrote:If Biden dropped out of the race he would literally have to also resign as POTUS. Kamala would become 47 and run as an incumbent. She would need to appoint a VP, but the Republican House would never approve the nomination so it would likely be an Acting VP. The same duo would be the nominees in November.

Why would he "literally" have to resign as POTUS? This isn't how it works. He can choose not to accept the Dem nomination while serving out the rest of his term. The Dem party leaders will figure out how best to replace him on the 2024 ticket. They can do no worse at the top of the ticket.

Anonymous wrote:Wow, the RNC must be dancing at how stupid the Democratic party is.

There is no longer an RNC. It’s Trump’s party now.

If Biden dropped out of the race he would literally have to also resign as POTUS. Kamala would become 47 and run as an incumbent. She would need to appoint a VP, but the Republican House would never approve the nomination so it would likely be an Acting VP. The same duo would be the nominees in November.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Biden would need to endorse Harris since she’s his VP who he said was the best alternate President should he die or become incapacitated, and he’s not going to do that.

Psaki explained it in an interview. That’s the crux of it. She said it would cause such big problems for him to stay neutral and not endorse his own VP that they’d be trading one set of problems for another to acknowledge that they put a muppet in VP position for DEI reasons or whatever rather than competence. Plus the fact that the Dems are the ones constantly harping on about democracy being at risk and what they’re basically suggesting is a few hundred insiders picking the president rather than the millions of people who have already cast their vote.

There’s no way to spin it. They should have opened their eyes and dealt with this months ago but were too arrogant and now there’s nothing that can be done.

Sorry, but I don’t buy this argument. Biden is dead in the water and needs to step down. The Harris problem can be overcome. Democrats need to do the right thing.

Don't blame the "Democrats" for not doing the right thing. Most of us that are in the know have for years been calling for him to step aside after his first term. This decision is up to Joe. He can choose to taint his 50 years in politics legacy by fumbling this election away to Trump or he can gracefully step aside so we can destroy Trump. The decision is his. Let's hope he makes the right decision.

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This is so upsetting. She is literally giggling and everyone else is cringing.

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Anonymous wrote:From Bloomberg:

Democrats Weigh Early Biden Nomination to Squash Talk of a Swap
Party could formally nominate Biden as early as July 21

Thanks for giving Trump four more years in The White House, DNC. Idiots. Complete idiots.

Wow, great news keep coming. Come on Joe hang on, you can do it -you answered all the questions Joe, good job.

That Jill said that to Biden after the debate and especially how she said it, has been haunting me. She could not infantilize him anymore had she handed him a lollipop afterwards.
And while she did so that poor man stood there with that confused, vacant smile plastered on his face. It really made me sad seeing him like that.

That short interaction summarized this entire issue pretty succinctly.

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Anonymous wrote:Why isn’t the rest of the government doing their job and invoking the 25th Amendment right now?

Because Kamala would be next in that case, and whatever secret shadow government is actually running the country with Biden as figurehead is better than that.

Anonymous wrote:The problem is that Biden would need to endorse Harris since she’s his VP who he said was the best alternate President should he die or become incapacitated, and he’s not going to do that.

Psaki explained it in an interview. That’s the crux of it. She said it would cause such big problems for him to stay neutral and not endorse his own VP that they’d be trading one set of problems for another to acknowledge that they put a muppet in VP position for DEI reasons or whatever rather than competence. Plus the fact that the Dems are the ones constantly harping on about democracy being at risk and what they’re basically suggesting is a few hundred insiders picking the president rather than the millions of people who have already cast their vote.

There’s no way to spin it. They should have opened their eyes and dealt with this months ago but were too arrogant and now there’s nothing that can be done.

Sorry, but I don’t buy this argument. Biden is dead in the water and needs to step down. The Harris problem can be overcome. Democrats need to do the right thing.

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Anonymous wrote:What corruption. The President is cognitively impaired. This is no longer a right wing talking point. Everyone saw it. You cannot spin your way out of this. This is totally unacceptable. He cannot beat Trump nor can he run the country. People should be outraged.

Omg STFU. I’m voting for Biden. He is far superior to Trump. Trump has already demonstrated he is unfit for office.

Biden literally shits his pants. He's so far gone that he will definitely pass away while in office.