Anonymous
07/01/2024 11:43
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.
65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%
https://mol.im/a/13585619
Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.
This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.
Something like 30% of Americans believe ghosts exist, which sounds pretty consistent with that 28% who still believe Biden is cognitively capable of being president.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 11:38
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.
65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%
https://mol.im/a/13585619
Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.
This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.
"Only" 7%? This makes it sound like a 7% shift is trivial. That is a big shift.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 11:30
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:...about whether Biden is cognitively capable of being president.
65% saw him as unfit for office prior to the debate, and that only went up to 72%
https://mol.im/a/13585619
Notwithstanding this, the race is still tight, meaning that a sizable percentage of people (~20%) are okay voting for someone they view as cognitively unfit to lead the free world.
This is interesting because I got the impression from DCUM that there was widespread ignorance about Biden’s... let's call it affect. DCUM has consistently expressed a belief that Biden is spry and mentally agile, particularly when compared to his opponent Trump. While some DCUMers have since acknowledged that they ignored the signs, many are committed to a belief that either Biden is okay, or that his cognitive health is irrelevant to his job performance. By the numbers, this means DCUM is basically inhabited by among the most committed and perhaps extreme supporters on the left.
The next day he was great! Honestly, 1) I'm not giving up on Biden and 2) I think they made him practice way too much. His voice was perfect the next day.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 11:05
Subject: Re:Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
People who can laugh take Trump figuratively and those who hate him take him literally.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 10:58
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
This post is not about people changing their votes. I think several posters here are confused about the 7 percent being referred to.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 10:57
Subject: Re:Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:Here's the main issue. We have two horribly flawed candidates, both of whom have a lot of people who oppose their election. Both candidates are getting a huge number of supporters who are actually not voting for them, but against their opponents. So Trump has a large number of ABB (anyone but Biden) votes and Biden has a huge number of ABT votes. So, although Biden's performance in the debate was poor, it isn't changing that many people who are voting against Trump returning to office.
I am a former Republican. I was a Republican for 34 years until Trump came along. I even voted for him in 2016 as the lesser of two evils (I was an anti-Clinton voter). But, now like so many others, I was discarded as a RINO because I did not drink the MAGA Kool-Aid. And I am now an Independent voter, who like Kinzinger and Cheney, will be voting for Biden to keep the orange monster from returning to office. He's destroyed the Republican party and is dragging his MAGAts over the cliff like lemmings. It will take the Republican party at least a decade to recover from Trump and the MAGAts (if they ever do).
Trump did the math and decided that for every one MSNBC Republican vote lost, like yours, he could pick up ten working class votes by talking about things they cared about, like illegal immigration.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 10:50
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Seems like a lot at the margin.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 10:27
Subject: Re:Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Here's the main issue. We have two horribly flawed candidates, both of whom have a lot of people who oppose their election. Both candidates are getting a huge number of supporters who are actually not voting for them, but against their opponents. So Trump has a large number of ABB (anyone but Biden) votes and Biden has a huge number of ABT votes. So, although Biden's performance in the debate was poor, it isn't changing that many people who are voting against Trump returning to office.
I am a former Republican. I was a Republican for 34 years until Trump came along. I even voted for him in 2016 as the lesser of two evils (I was an anti-Clinton voter). But, now like so many others, I was discarded as a RINO because I did not drink the MAGA Kool-Aid. And I am now an Independent voter, who like Kinzinger and Cheney, will be voting for Biden to keep the orange monster from returning to office. He's destroyed the Republican party and is dragging his MAGAts over the cliff like lemmings. It will take the Republican party at least a decade to recover from Trump and the MAGAts (if they ever do).
I am a former Republican. I was a Republican for 34 years until Trump came along. I even voted for him in 2016 as the lesser of two evils (I was an anti-Clinton voter). But, now like so many others, I was discarded as a RINO because I did not drink the MAGA Kool-Aid. And I am now an Independent voter, who like Kinzinger and Cheney, will be voting for Biden to keep the orange monster from returning to office. He's destroyed the Republican party and is dragging his MAGAts over the cliff like lemmings. It will take the Republican party at least a decade to recover from Trump and the MAGAts (if they ever do).
Anonymous
07/01/2024 09:56
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.
maybe in one state. Biden won by 7 million votes.
I don’t think the debate changed 7% of voters minds.
Do you need the EC explained to you?
If 33,000 votes across 3 states were different in 2020 Trump would have won.
I am good thanks. I am referring to popular votes.
Why is the popular vote even worth mentioning?
Popular vote does matter for historical reference but it's the swing voters in swing states that are all that matters as the deciding factor in a specific election. Once/if Biden steps down so that a normal Dem candidate can enter the race, it will become clear that Trump is not what a majority of the swing voters want and the normal candidate will coast to an easy victory in November. The swing voters just want a normal/average qualified candidate that is fit to serve as leader of the most powerful country in the world until 2029. There is no argument for Trump or Biden being this candidate the swing voters are asking for. First party to give them what they want wins in 2024. Not rocket science here folks!
Anonymous
07/01/2024 09:55
Subject: Re:Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:I do not wish this, but a hypothetical: If you woke up yesterday and Joe Biden had died, would you be surprised?
Life is fleeting for everyone.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 09:54
Subject: Re:Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:"Only 72%" of the public believe we have a current Commander-in-Chief who is unfit for office.
Quite a statement there. Finding 72% of people who agree on anything is tough.
So, to have 72% of people believing we have a person leading the free will who is incapable of doing so..... well.....
Correct. 72%
When’s the last time so many Americans agreed on ANYTHING wrt politics.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 09:54
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.
maybe in one state. Biden won by 7 million votes.
I don’t think the debate changed 7% of voters minds.
Do you need the EC explained to you?
If 33,000 votes across 3 states were different in 2020 Trump would have won.
I am good thanks. I am referring to popular votes.
Why is the popular vote even worth mentioning?
Because the poster said Biden won by 33,000 votes in 2020, that is why.
Which is correct. As explained.
Anonymous
07/01/2024 09:54
Subject: Re:Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
"Only 72%" of the public believe we have a current Commander-in-Chief who is unfit for office.
Quite a statement there. Finding 72% of people who agree on anything is tough.
So, to have 72% of people believing we have a person leading the free will who is incapable of doing so..... well.....
Quite a statement there. Finding 72% of people who agree on anything is tough.
So, to have 72% of people believing we have a person leading the free will who is incapable of doing so..... well.....
Anonymous
07/01/2024 09:52
Subject: Re:Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
I do not wish this, but a hypothetical: If you woke up yesterday and Joe Biden had died, would you be surprised?
Anonymous
07/01/2024 09:49
Subject: Poll shows the debate only changed 7% of people's minds...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:7% matters. Biden won by about 33,000 votes last time.
maybe in one state. Biden won by 7 million votes.
I don’t think the debate changed 7% of voters minds.
Do you need the EC explained to you?
If 33,000 votes across 3 states were different in 2020 Trump would have won.
I am good thanks. I am referring to popular votes.
Why is the popular vote even worth mentioning?
Because the poster said Biden won by 33,000 votes in 2020, that is why.