Anonymous wrote:So you’re a college coach and you attend a showcase. It would be nice to know that all players are going to college in a year rather than have to sit there and scan rosters and birthdates while trying to analyze a game.

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Anonymous wrote:If US Soccer goes back to school year, then there will be no “trapped player”. I see people mixing in ideas of bio-banding and playing up, but that’s all noise. The term “trapped player” is specific to kids who are born in (September?) Oct, Nov, December and therefore are in a different school class than the kids born Jan-September.

That’s it, nothing fancy or strange. Sure, there will be edge cases of kids who are held back or moved forward in school, but for the vast majority, the move would re-align them for the purposes of college recruiting.

Frankly, if I had a trapped player I would want this. It really sucks for the kids who are sophomores in HS during that crucial year when all of their teammates are all-in on recruiting. Most significant is just the sheer number of coaches that show up. If you are U17, you might have 60-120 College coaches show up at your ECNL showcase or Jeff Cup game. When you are U18/19, it’s 35 coaches, and half of them are only showing up to make sure the kids they already signed aren’t slacking off.

Won't there still be players whose soccer year and club year are misaligned? If the soccer year starts 8/1 but the school cut off is 10/1, the August-September kids are playing a year "down" compared to their school year, right? Is the answer just that there are fewer of them or they are somehow not "trapped"?

“Trapper” players are so rarely on a top team or a top player it is stupid to move everything for these few players. The vast majority of good players(75%j have birthdays Jan - June. Why upset everything for so little benefit.

Haha - excellent post

Get ready for "trapper" players to be best players on best teams then. And if the "vast majority of good players" are Jan - June than they should be just fine. Meaning nothing was upset, so move along.

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Anonymous wrote:If US Soccer goes back to school year, then there will be no “trapped player”. I see people mixing in ideas of bio-banding and playing up, but that’s all noise. The term “trapped player” is specific to kids who are born in (September?) Oct, Nov, December and therefore are in a different school class than the kids born Jan-September.

That’s it, nothing fancy or strange. Sure, there will be edge cases of kids who are held back or moved forward in school, but for the vast majority, the move would re-align them for the purposes of college recruiting.

Frankly, if I had a trapped player I would want this. It really sucks for the kids who are sophomores in HS during that crucial year when all of their teammates are all-in on recruiting. Most significant is just the sheer number of coaches that show up. If you are U17, you might have 60-120 College coaches show up at your ECNL showcase or Jeff Cup game. When you are U18/19, it’s 35 coaches, and half of them are only showing up to make sure the kids they already signed aren’t slacking off.

Won't there still be players whose soccer year and club year are misaligned? If the soccer year starts 8/1 but the school cut off is 10/1, the August-September kids are playing a year "down" compared to their school year, right? Is the answer just that there are fewer of them or they are somehow not "trapped"?

“Trapper” players are so rarely on a top team or a top player it is stupid to move everything for these few players. The vast majority of good players(75%j have birthdays Jan - June. Why upset everything for so little benefit.

Haha - excellent post

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting for this huge announcement. Anything???

I’m beginning to think the talking soccer site is owned by ECNL and it was a ploy to drive up traffic.

The source was a twitter account with a huge following.

Anonymous wrote:If GA diesnt follow suit this change will make cross league play in tournaments impossible unless ECNL or GA clubs choose to play up an age group.

It will also make soccer rankings between leagues near impossible unless some kind of magic league "power rankings" dynamic was added. Unfortunately this would end up just being something everyone fights about.

Regarding playing professionally it doesn't really matter. Acadamies are all about players playing up so calender year vs grade grouping is irrelevant. However, internationally teams are grouped by year. If you want to play against teams in other countries teams will need to be calender year based.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting for this huge announcement. Anything???

I’m beginning to think the talking soccer site is owned by ECNL and it was a ploy to drive up traffic.

Anonymous wrote:I'm still waiting for this huge announcement. Anything???

Anonymous wrote:And here we go. The bulldozer parents will be red-shirting players again, holding them back a year in school in order to be the biggest and fastest at the critical early ages.

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Anonymous wrote:If US Soccer goes back to school year, then there will be no “trapped player”. I see people mixing in ideas of bio-banding and playing up, but that’s all noise. The term “trapped player” is specific to kids who are born in (September?) Oct, Nov, December and therefore are in a different school class than the kids born Jan-September.

That’s it, nothing fancy or strange. Sure, there will be edge cases of kids who are held back or moved forward in school, but for the vast majority, the move would re-align them for the purposes of college recruiting.

Frankly, if I had a trapped player I would want this. It really sucks for the kids who are sophomores in HS during that crucial year when all of their teammates are all-in on recruiting. Most significant is just the sheer number of coaches that show up. If you are U17, you might have 60-120 College coaches show up at your ECNL showcase or Jeff Cup game. When you are U18/19, it’s 35 coaches, and half of them are only showing up to make sure the kids they already signed aren’t slacking off.

Won't there still be players whose soccer year and club year are misaligned? If the soccer year starts 8/1 but the school cut off is 10/1, the August-September kids are playing a year "down" compared to their school year, right? Is the answer just that there are fewer of them or they are somehow not "trapped"?

“Trapper” players are so rarely on a top team or a top player it is stupid to move everything for these few players. The vast majority of good players(75%j have birthdays Jan - June. Why upset everything for so little benefit.

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Anonymous wrote:If US Soccer goes back to school year, then there will be no “trapped player”. I see people mixing in ideas of bio-banding and playing up, but that’s all noise. The term “trapped player” is specific to kids who are born in (September?) Oct, Nov, December and therefore are in a different school class than the kids born Jan-September.

That’s it, nothing fancy or strange. Sure, there will be edge cases of kids who are held back or moved forward in school, but for the vast majority, the move would re-align them for the purposes of college recruiting.

Frankly, if I had a trapped player I would want this. It really sucks for the kids who are sophomores in HS during that crucial year when all of their teammates are all-in on recruiting. Most significant is just the sheer number of coaches that show up. If you are U17, you might have 60-120 College coaches show up at your ECNL showcase or Jeff Cup game. When you are U18/19, it’s 35 coaches, and half of them are only showing up to make sure the kids they already signed aren’t slacking off.

Won't there still be players whose soccer year and club year are misaligned? If the soccer year starts 8/1 but the school cut off is 10/1, the August-September kids are playing a year "down" compared to their school year, right? Is the answer just that there are fewer of them or they are somehow not "trapped"?

“Trapper” players are so rarely on a top team or a top player it is stupid to move everything for these few players. The vast majority of good players(75%j have birthdays Jan - June. Why upset everything for so little benefit.

My kids a "trapped" player and starts on a top 50 ranked team for the age group she plays in.

Not sure where you got the data on trapped players not being good.

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