Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
I am all for robust compensation for teachers. However, I have seen this simplistic, naive argument written here a million times, the argument that "real" work is being done by the teachers and administrators don't contribute much. Administrators are career professionals in finance or HR or Law, it takes intelligence, skill, leadership, experience to manage the funds, to manage the board and parents and staff. These professionals don't come cheap as they juggle a hundred balls in the air, so yes they will continue to command excellent pay.
Teachers on the other hand only need to focus on managing their classroom, there is simply no comparison. Should teachers be paid more? Absolutely. Should administrators be paid less? Absolutely not, that is if you want competent people managing and running an organization.
HOS should make a lot. Way more than teachers. Their job is much harder. In this market a good HOS is worth at least 500k.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
I am all for robust compensation for teachers. However, I have seen this simplistic, naive argument written here a million times, the argument that "real" work is being done by the teachers and administrators don't contribute much. Administrators are career professionals in finance or HR or Law, it takes intelligence, skill, leadership, experience to manage the funds, to manage the board and parents and staff. These professionals don't come cheap as they juggle a hundred balls in the air, so yes they will continue to command excellent pay.
Teachers on the other hand only need to focus on managing their classroom, there is simply no comparison. Should teachers be paid more? Absolutely. Should administrators be paid less? Absolutely not, that is if you want competent people managing and running an organization.
HOS should make a lot. Way more than teachers. Their job is much harder. In this market a good HOS is worth at least 500k.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
I am all for robust compensation for teachers. However, I have seen this simplistic, naive argument written here a million times, the argument that "real" work is being done by the teachers and administrators don't contribute much. Administrators are career professionals in finance or HR or Law, it takes intelligence, skill, leadership, experience to manage the funds, to manage the board and parents and staff. These professionals don't come cheap as they juggle a hundred balls in the air, so yes they will continue to command excellent pay.
Teachers on the other hand only need to focus on managing their classroom, there is simply no comparison. Should teachers be paid more? Absolutely. Should administrators be paid less? Absolutely not, that is if you want competent people managing and running an organization.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Bullis HoS makes 600k. And gets a house and car.
Two years ago he was making close to $700 plus house and car.
Not worth it, IMO!!!
Anonymous wrote:Woodward and Bernstein over here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I find none of this to be a problem?
I can’t believe an assistant head of school is only being paid 130
The issue is the discrepancy between HOS pay and teacher pay, especially when the teachers do the most important work in the school.
A school can survive without a ton of admin. It can’t survive without teachers.
Anonymous wrote:Woodward and Bernstein over here.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
You must be an inexperienced teacher if you really think that the HOS doesn’t have an impact. What do you think makes happy teachers? You all sit here thinking that a HOS that works 12 months and does the hiring of teachers has it so much easier than them? You have no clue and it’s gross that people come on here and claim that someone with essentially no days off and responsible for all major decisions within a school doesn’t deserve a high salary.
Nope. I’ve been teaching 25 years and I know who really sells the school: teachers. Are you really going to select a school based on the HOS or the teachers in the classroom? We both know the answer to that.
A HOS who makes 5-6X what the teachers make? That’s gross.
And what makes happy teachers? Being respected. The HOS has a hard job, but teachers do as well. We also work long hours during the school year, running the very programs that the HOS can sell to parents. We do the true work.
So if a teacher is at the school until 10pm cleaning up after a band concert or NHS ceremony, just to be back in their classroom at 6:30am prepping for the school day, should they be happy with their 60K? When the HOS who didn’t even show up to the event gets 300K?
Are you a public or private school teacher? Because every HOS my kids have had has been at just about every event, cheering the students on and then stacking chairs when it was over. And back in their office first thing in the morning. And that’s only three schools, and maybe we got lucky, but it’s hard to imagine our family has experienced the only three involved HOS in the area.
I’m a private school teacher. I’m glad your HOS are involved.
… and the teachers were also stacking chairs. They were also back in their classrooms the following morning ready to teach a full day. They were also there several evenings before the event, running rehearsals and preparing.
And for a fraction of the pay.
Why don’t you teach in a public school? I’m not trying to be argumentative. If you have experience in both public and private, why are you teaching in private?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
You must be an inexperienced teacher if you really think that the HOS doesn’t have an impact. What do you think makes happy teachers? You all sit here thinking that a HOS that works 12 months and does the hiring of teachers has it so much easier than them? You have no clue and it’s gross that people come on here and claim that someone with essentially no days off and responsible for all major decisions within a school doesn’t deserve a high salary.
Nope. I’ve been teaching 25 years and I know who really sells the school: teachers. Are you really going to select a school based on the HOS or the teachers in the classroom? We both know the answer to that.
A HOS who makes 5-6X what the teachers make? That’s gross.
And what makes happy teachers? Being respected. The HOS has a hard job, but teachers do as well. We also work long hours during the school year, running the very programs that the HOS can sell to parents. We do the true work.
So if a teacher is at the school until 10pm cleaning up after a band concert or NHS ceremony, just to be back in their classroom at 6:30am prepping for the school day, should they be happy with their 60K? When the HOS who didn’t even show up to the event gets 300K?
Are you a public or private school teacher? Because every HOS my kids have had has been at just about every event, cheering the students on and then stacking chairs when it was over. And back in their office first thing in the morning. And that’s only three schools, and maybe we got lucky, but it’s hard to imagine our family has experienced the only three involved HOS in the area.
I’m a private school teacher. I’m glad your HOS are involved.
… and the teachers were also stacking chairs. They were also back in their classrooms the following morning ready to teach a full day. They were also there several evenings before the event, running rehearsals and preparing.
And for a fraction of the pay.
Yea hers are absolutely underpaid, both private and public. And often have to put up with terrible teaching environments, obnoxious parents, and unsupportive admin. You absolutely deserve to be paid more.
But comparing your salary to the HOS is unrealistic. That’s like saying the corporate drone should compare their salary to the CEO.
Both things can be true - HOS work extremely hard for their (fair) compensation, and teachers work extremely hard for their massively too low salary.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I assume that one reason you are sending your child to a private school is for the quality of the experience. Perhaps even a world class educational experience. Always amazes me that people want an exceptional experience but think the leader of the organization should not be compensated as such. I promise you your head of school could make far more in a different role.
I actually worry more about how well the teachers are being compensated. They are the ones doing the actual work of the school, not the HOS.
Happy teachers affect my child. Whether the HOS is there doesn’t have as much impact.
- parent AND teacher
You must be an inexperienced teacher if you really think that the HOS doesn’t have an impact. What do you think makes happy teachers? You all sit here thinking that a HOS that works 12 months and does the hiring of teachers has it so much easier than them? You have no clue and it’s gross that people come on here and claim that someone with essentially no days off and responsible for all major decisions within a school doesn’t deserve a high salary.
Nope. I’ve been teaching 25 years and I know who really sells the school: teachers. Are you really going to select a school based on the HOS or the teachers in the classroom? We both know the answer to that.
A HOS who makes 5-6X what the teachers make? That’s gross.
And what makes happy teachers? Being respected. The HOS has a hard job, but teachers do as well. We also work long hours during the school year, running the very programs that the HOS can sell to parents. We do the true work.
So if a teacher is at the school until 10pm cleaning up after a band concert or NHS ceremony, just to be back in their classroom at 6:30am prepping for the school day, should they be happy with their 60K? When the HOS who didn’t even show up to the event gets 300K?
Are you a public or private school teacher? Because every HOS my kids have had has been at just about every event, cheering the students on and then stacking chairs when it was over. And back in their office first thing in the morning. And that’s only three schools, and maybe we got lucky, but it’s hard to imagine our family has experienced the only three involved HOS in the area.
I’m a private school teacher. I’m glad your HOS are involved.
… and the teachers were also stacking chairs. They were also back in their classrooms the following morning ready to teach a full day. They were also there several evenings before the event, running rehearsals and preparing.
And for a fraction of the pay.