Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 13:17     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:None of this stuff matters one iota when you consider how many data centers are being built all over Virginia, and all over the nation. And it’s happening relatively very quietly.

Virginia is expecting to about DOUBLE the average electrical demand in its grid in the next 10 years due almost entirely to planned data centers and the power purchase agreements already in place.

You guys want to talk about air conditioning and meat - and not having kids?!?! — that is crazy and useless. You would be better off agreeing to limit your web browsing and streaming. No more Spotify; break out your CDs, instead. Don’t share tons of photos, or compress the few important ones that you want to send to Grandma. Don’t unnecessarily like anyone’s posts. Seriously. If you’re going to worry about this other nonsense, you may as well throw these in, too. That’s where the demand is.

The grid capacity is doubling. (Electric cars are contributing additionally to that.)

Now, where do you want it to come from. Solar and wind are not sufficient, not by a long shot. People want to stream their shows and music at night, after the sun goes down. There is no large-scale storage solution. And even just the solar and wind, if it were 24 hours, would not be cost competitive.

Where are you advocate to local politicians to build more nuclear generation capacity?

When you say “just vote, that’s the most important thing,” what have your candidates committed to in terms of building more nuclear, and accelerating the permitting, licensing? How about guaranteeing capital investments?

This is what matters. The rest is rearranging deck chairs for people who are not serious.

Good luck.


THis is quite a policy statement. What's your background for saying it? I am not agreeing with you on most of it but I'm also wanting to learn. If you have the credentials, then I'd like to hear more.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 13:16     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to figure out how to get co2 out of the atmosphere.


We know how to do that. And while the industry/corps need to lead the way, there are things individuals can do on a small scale. If we all did them, collectively, it could help. Plant trees. Stop using chemicals on the lawns/gardens. Plant natives. Compost food wasted. Plants, trees, and the SOIL are HUUUUUUGE Co2 absorbers. Support sustainability initiatives like food scrap recycling. Watch: Kiss the Ground.

If you can't or don't want to go vegan, eat more plant-based and less meat. The meat industry is a huge problem for climate.

Be cognizant of choices for cars, utilities, etc. When there is more demand for things that do not stress the climate, the costs will come down.

None of it is perfect. But we should not let the perfect get in the way of the good.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 06:39     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

None of this stuff matters one iota when you consider how many data centers are being built all over Virginia, and all over the nation. And it’s happening relatively very quietly.

Virginia is expecting to about DOUBLE the average electrical demand in its grid in the next 10 years due almost entirely to planned data centers and the power purchase agreements already in place.

You guys want to talk about air conditioning and meat - and not having kids?!?! — that is crazy and useless. You would be better off agreeing to limit your web browsing and streaming. No more Spotify; break out your CDs, instead. Don’t share tons of photos, or compress the few important ones that you want to send to Grandma. Don’t unnecessarily like anyone’s posts. Seriously. If you’re going to worry about this other nonsense, you may as well throw these in, too. That’s where the demand is.

The grid capacity is doubling. (Electric cars are contributing additionally to that.)

Now, where do you want it to come from. Solar and wind are not sufficient, not by a long shot. People want to stream their shows and music at night, after the sun goes down. There is no large-scale storage solution. And even just the solar and wind, if it were 24 hours, would not be cost competitive.

Where are you advocate to local politicians to build more nuclear generation capacity?

When you say “just vote, that’s the most important thing,” what have your candidates committed to in terms of building more nuclear, and accelerating the permitting, licensing? How about guaranteeing capital investments?

This is what matters. The rest is rearranging deck chairs for people who are not serious.

Good luck.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 02:38     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

What I have done and do: I don't fly, have an electric car, use public transportation whenever possible, solar panels, heat pump, no air condition at home, meat once a week at most, I don't buy stuff I don't really need (especially clothes). Not so difficult.
Anonymous
Post 08/13/2024 00:10     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:Someone needs to figure out how to get co2 out of the atmosphere.


This is the solution. Not by cutting back but by new technology. Grow the pie not shrink it.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2024 07:21     Subject: Re:Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Here are the three things I have done:
Stopped flying private and go commercial, only use ground shipping on online purchases, and stopped eating beef, damn cows and their methane who needs them.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2024 17:09     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Vote. That's the most important thing you can do.
Anonymous
Post 08/09/2024 17:05     Subject: Re:Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:1. Don't fly.
2. Push government to take action; understand and accept that this may increase the cost of things you buy.
3. Buy less stuff. What you do buy, buy American (our environmental laws are better than China) and as local as possible to reduce shipping.


1. Fly 30-40 times a year. Why would I or anyone else change? Makes no sense.
2. No not going to agree to any cost increases at all.
3. Why buy less stuff? You want to put people out of work?

The solutions are not based on anything any one person can choose to do. Real solution would be to tell China and India that they have to go back 50 years in terms of economic output. Since that will not happen there is little that can be done.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 13:41     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How people actually think we are going to revert the tide of global warming makes me ROFL.

We may not be at the tipping point in terms of science but psychologically you bet we're there. In our online Amazon 2 day delivery smart phone/phones/social media world, convenience reigns supreme. We will never return to a world where people don't want to travel, live the "good" life and have to sacrifice any convenience ever.

Acceptance is everything. Things will change only upon acceptance of our fate.


I’m always hopeful that someone can explain to me how my Prime delivery day box of assorted items being delivered by a truck that is already coming to my apartment building and neighborhood with hundreds of other orders is worse than me driving all over MoCo and DC to purchase those same items in person?


Most likely because you wouldn’t. Most people wouldn’t.


Exactly. Once upon a time one went without or had patience
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 13:15     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How people actually think we are going to revert the tide of global warming makes me ROFL.

We may not be at the tipping point in terms of science but psychologically you bet we're there. In our online Amazon 2 day delivery smart phone/phones/social media world, convenience reigns supreme. We will never return to a world where people don't want to travel, live the "good" life and have to sacrifice any convenience ever.

Acceptance is everything. Things will change only upon acceptance of our fate.


I’m always hopeful that someone can explain to me how my Prime delivery day box of assorted items being delivered by a truck that is already coming to my apartment building and neighborhood with hundreds of other orders is worse than me driving all over MoCo and DC to purchase those same items in person?


It's the idea not literally getting the packages. The idea that you can do whatever you want when you want and anything you want. The idea that we can pretty much have every expectation fulfilled which is really what tech offers. But with conveniences and development come the flip side of how this impacts our physical world. The air, animals, plants, trees, climate, waste, oceans - everything - in order to support human developments and desires.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 09:18     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People are such idiots. This is the dumbest thread ever.

I challenge OP to stop eating anything you want, flying, using the A/C, basically living your life.

If you can't do that, don't expect others to sacrifice anything either.

This fantasy of humans collectively 100% globally coming together to do EVERYTHING we would need to make global warming either stop or slow is exactly that - a fantasy.

The best thing we can hope for is to try to find solutions for when things get totally out of control. We should work on not trying to stop the inevitable and instead figure out plans for how we are all going to make do with what will be our reality in I'm guessing 10 years. It will be a planet with much more adverse weather conditions and food production changes that will really impact all of us. Better we don't fool ourselves on what's to come very soon and face reality than to put efforts into actions that won't happen.



I used to be a rosey eyed supporter of focusing on ways we can change to stop the inevitable, but not anymore.

Now I agree with pp. I’m looking long term. Getting my family as financially secure as possible. Bought a second home up north to escape the heat for my family.


Unless you’re going full prepper mode that’s not going to help your family in the least when the sh!t hits the fan.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 09:15     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How people actually think we are going to revert the tide of global warming makes me ROFL.

We may not be at the tipping point in terms of science but psychologically you bet we're there. In our online Amazon 2 day delivery smart phone/phones/social media world, convenience reigns supreme. We will never return to a world where people don't want to travel, live the "good" life and have to sacrifice any convenience ever.

Acceptance is everything. Things will change only upon acceptance of our fate.


I’m always hopeful that someone can explain to me how my Prime delivery day box of assorted items being delivered by a truck that is already coming to my apartment building and neighborhood with hundreds of other orders is worse than me driving all over MoCo and DC to purchase those same items in person?


Most likely because you wouldn’t. Most people wouldn’t.
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 09:06     Subject: Re:Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:Advocate to use lighter materials to reflect sunlight and cool the surface:

* pave the roads/highways with white material instead of black

* choose brighter/lighter materials for house exterior and roof shingles

These are easy and passive choices that will have a huge impact.


https://www.optimistdaily.com/2019/10/turns-out-painting-the-streets-white-doesnt-make-cities-cooler/
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 09:03     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Anonymous wrote:How people actually think we are going to revert the tide of global warming makes me ROFL.

We may not be at the tipping point in terms of science but psychologically you bet we're there. In our online Amazon 2 day delivery smart phone/phones/social media world, convenience reigns supreme. We will never return to a world where people don't want to travel, live the "good" life and have to sacrifice any convenience ever.

Acceptance is everything. Things will change only upon acceptance of our fate.


I’m always hopeful that someone can explain to me how my Prime delivery day box of assorted items being delivered by a truck that is already coming to my apartment building and neighborhood with hundreds of other orders is worse than me driving all over MoCo and DC to purchase those same items in person?
Anonymous
Post 08/03/2024 09:02     Subject: Top 3 things every individual needs to do to slow down rising temperatures

Someone needs to figure out how to get co2 out of the atmosphere.