Anonymous
06/21/2024 13:33
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would it even matter if an application reader thought so???
It matters bc it can very likely provide a boost to the kid’s app (good) but if the AO suspects kid lied to access a program not intended for her, it can matter in a bad way.
No boost. Not even likely, much less "very likely." There is a whole army of lawyers swarming all over the applications process since before the SC decision. And now that it is the law of the land the potential payouts are so huge that some (of the lawyers) are betting their futures on catching just one school screwing up. The likelihood of that is vanishingly low. It is not worth it. Not one of these schools is going to risk their multi-billion dollar endowment on a kid who listed an EC that maybe means they are URM
This is simply not true. My kids attend a private and they are making sure that these kids' applications convey "URM" in a million ways. These kids are getting a boost (very obvious based on results). Ultimately colleges can take who they want and they still are.
What your kids' private high school does and what the university admissions office does are not coordinated. NOT COORDINATED. The university cannot in any way mark an application as "URM" or "SUSPECTED URM" or anything like that. That would be both illegal and, frankly, really foolish.
Your expensive private is just selling you the feeling that they are adding value by helping with applications.
You are wrong. They can definitely consider race. Perfectly acceptable. Go read the court’s opinion. It is HOW it has yo be considered that was ruled upon.
Anonymous
06/21/2024 13:22
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would it even matter if an application reader thought so???
It matters bc it can very likely provide a boost to the kid’s app (good) but if the AO suspects kid lied to access a program not intended for her, it can matter in a bad way.
No boost. Not even likely, much less "very likely." There is a whole army of lawyers swarming all over the applications process since before the SC decision. And now that it is the law of the land the potential payouts are so huge that some (of the lawyers) are betting their futures on catching just one school screwing up. The likelihood of that is vanishingly low. It is not worth it. Not one of these schools is going to risk their multi-billion dollar endowment on a kid who listed an EC that maybe means they are URM
This is simply not true. My kids attend a private and they are making sure that these kids' applications convey "URM" in a million ways. These kids are getting a boost (very obvious based on results). Ultimately colleges can take who they want and they still are.
Easy win for your private school. They get to look proactive and also have a built in excuse for when Larla isn't admitted to her preferred LAC.
Anonymous
06/21/2024 13:18
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would it even matter if an application reader thought so???
It matters bc it can very likely provide a boost to the kid’s app (good) but if the AO suspects kid lied to access a program not intended for her, it can matter in a bad way.
No boost. Not even likely, much less "very likely." There is a whole army of lawyers swarming all over the applications process since before the SC decision. And now that it is the law of the land the potential payouts are so huge that some (of the lawyers) are betting their futures on catching just one school screwing up. The likelihood of that is vanishingly low. It is not worth it. Not one of these schools is going to risk their multi-billion dollar endowment on a kid who listed an EC that maybe means they are URM
Just like there is a whole army of Border Patrol officers just DARING somebody to try to enter the country illegally?
Poor analogy. I think you are trying to suggest that admissions officers are giving certain applicants an easy way. So your border patrol equivalent would be that CBP officers are trawling the desert and giving air-conditioned rides to some kind of preferred illegal immigrant.
Day drinking?
Anonymous
06/21/2024 13:15
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would it even matter if an application reader thought so???
It matters bc it can very likely provide a boost to the kid’s app (good) but if the AO suspects kid lied to access a program not intended for her, it can matter in a bad way.
No boost. Not even likely, much less "very likely." There is a whole army of lawyers swarming all over the applications process since before the SC decision. And now that it is the law of the land the potential payouts are so huge that some (of the lawyers) are betting their futures on catching just one school screwing up. The likelihood of that is vanishingly low. It is not worth it. Not one of these schools is going to risk their multi-billion dollar endowment on a kid who listed an EC that maybe means they are URM
This is simply not true. My kids attend a private and they are making sure that these kids' applications convey "URM" in a million ways. These kids are getting a boost (very obvious based on results). Ultimately colleges can take who they want and they still are.
What your kids' private high school does and what the university admissions office does are not coordinated. NOT COORDINATED. The university cannot in any way mark an application as "URM" or "SUSPECTED URM" or anything like that. That would be both illegal and, frankly, really foolish.
Your expensive private is just selling you the feeling that they are adding value by helping with applications.
Anonymous
06/21/2024 13:08
Subject: doing an extracurricular that makes you appears like an URM when you are not
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why would it even matter if an application reader thought so???
It matters bc it can very likely provide a boost to the kid’s app (good) but if the AO suspects kid lied to access a program not intended for her, it can matter in a bad way.
No boost. Not even likely, much less "very likely." There is a whole army of lawyers swarming all over the applications process since before the SC decision. And now that it is the law of the land the potential payouts are so huge that some (of the lawyers) are betting their futures on catching just one school screwing up. The likelihood of that is vanishingly low. It is not worth it. Not one of these schools is going to risk their multi-billion dollar endowment on a kid who listed an EC that maybe means they are URM
Just like there is a whole army of Border Patrol officers just DARING somebody to try to enter the country illegally?