Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would get her evaluated privately. The school has an incentive to find “just low IQ and not a learning disability,” because then they’re not on the hook for services.
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Whenever I come on this board it takes a second before I become disgusted by the negative attitudes towards the school.
IQ scores cannot be "made up" and "just found" and the person who is evaluating your child does not have an agenda. If anything, the school psychologist is probably upset to find out that your child had this lower IQ, and was glad that she could be qualified under a different category.
I'm a school psychologist (with a clinical license, and I've worked in both sectors). OP, I would recommend requesting a re-test in a year or so, especially if your child is recently diagnosed with ADHD. ADHD can significantly depress cognitive scores in an artificial way. In addition, I completely agree with the poster who recommended you keep exposing her to new information and be patient. Now that she has acquired the basic reading skills, she is in a great position to be successful! I'm sure she has many wonderful strengths that will aid her going forward. Keep her feeling positive, successful, and enthusiastic about school as much as you can.
If the examiner doesn't test properly, then the score doesn't mean much. My five year old daughter needed an IEP for her speech impediment. She scored high on every section but cognitive processing speed. She had to quickly identify bugs. She stopped and pretended to be every single bug, so that score was disability low. The examiner only instructed her once and didn't restart and correct her when she wouldn't listen. My husband and I weren't allowed to speak at all, so we just watched it happen. My daughter got an overall score of 110 because of that. The examiner said not to worry about it and the low score will be ignored for the IEP because she isn't actually impaired in that area. So who knows what my daughter's real IQ is. Is she gifted? Should she be in a program for that? I'll never know because of the lackadaisical attitude of the examiner and department.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would get her evaluated privately. The school has an incentive to find “just low IQ and not a learning disability,” because then they’re not on the hook for services.
+100
Whenever I come on this board it takes a second before I become disgusted by the negative attitudes towards the school.
IQ scores cannot be "made up" and "just found" and the person who is evaluating your child does not have an agenda. If anything, the school psychologist is probably upset to find out that your child had this lower IQ, and was glad that she could be qualified under a different category.
I'm a school psychologist (with a clinical license, and I've worked in both sectors). OP, I would recommend requesting a re-test in a year or so, especially if your child is recently diagnosed with ADHD. ADHD can significantly depress cognitive scores in an artificial way. In addition, I completely agree with the poster who recommended you keep exposing her to new information and be patient. Now that she has acquired the basic reading skills, she is in a great position to be successful! I'm sure she has many wonderful strengths that will aid her going forward. Keep her feeling positive, successful, and enthusiastic about school as much as you can.
If the examiner doesn't test properly, then the score doesn't mean much. My five year old daughter needed an IEP for her speech impediment. She scored high on every section but cognitive processing speed. She had to quickly identify bugs. She stopped and pretended to be every single bug, so that score was disability low. The examiner only instructed her once and didn't restart and correct her when she wouldn't listen. My husband and I weren't allowed to speak at all, so we just watched it happen. My daughter got an overall score of 110 because of that. The examiner said not to worry about it and the low score will be ignored for the IEP because she isn't actually impaired in that area. So who knows what my daughter's real IQ is. Is she gifted? Should she be in a program for that? I'll never know because of the lackadaisical attitude of the examiner and department.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I would get her evaluated privately. The school has an incentive to find “just low IQ and not a learning disability,” because then they’re not on the hook for services.
+100
Whenever I come on this board it takes a second before I become disgusted by the negative attitudes towards the school.
IQ scores cannot be "made up" and "just found" and the person who is evaluating your child does not have an agenda. If anything, the school psychologist is probably upset to find out that your child had this lower IQ, and was glad that she could be qualified under a different category.
I'm a school psychologist (with a clinical license, and I've worked in both sectors). OP, I would recommend requesting a re-test in a year or so, especially if your child is recently diagnosed with ADHD. ADHD can significantly depress cognitive scores in an artificial way. In addition, I completely agree with the poster who recommended you keep exposing her to new information and be patient. Now that she has acquired the basic reading skills, she is in a great position to be successful! I'm sure she has many wonderful strengths that will aid her going forward. Keep her feeling positive, successful, and enthusiastic about school as much as you can.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My son has a similar IQ. It’s hard to teach him things like don’t brag. We did ASDEC for years and it has been incredibly helpful.
Hi. Curious what is ASDEC?
Anonymous wrote:I would get her evaluated privately. The school has an incentive to find “just low IQ and not a learning disability,” because then they’re not on the hook for services.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My son has a similar IQ. It’s hard to teach him things like don’t brag. We did ASDEC for years and it has been incredibly helpful.
Hi. Curious what is ASDEC?
Anonymous wrote:My son has a similar IQ. It’s hard to teach him things like don’t brag. We did ASDEC for years and it has been incredibly helpful.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Remember parents: you can request an IEE for free if you don't like the quality of the school evals. You don't have to give a reason why you're requesting it. Just email the principal and copy the central office that you are requesting one. They are free.
My response to this comment was deleted. This board is heavily censored if a teacher shares the other side of the story, which is a shame and does not
benefit anyone.
IEEs are not free. They cost thousands of dollars paid by the school system and tax payors. The intent is so parents have an option if they disagree with school assessments. Most IEES I see, do not follow that intent. Many Parents just want more assessments paid by someone else. Many do abuse the system. Those are facts and stop deleting and censoring school staff.
You’re not being censored, you’re just ridiculous. I responded to you and it was also deleted. Your insistence that greedy special needs parents are taking money away from the school system is wrong, asinine, blame shifting, and again, ridiculous. Most parents are, as the school system prefers, completely clueless and unable to advocate for themselves in the system. The school systems fight tooth and nail to avoid spending money on special education, going so far as to refuse to recognize dyslexia, the most common LD, and refusing to provide evidence based accommodations for it. We all understand there are limited resources and this is the game we are all forced to play. But the idea that the schools are just doing all they can while the mean old parents are robbing them, trying to make them comply with FAPE! Rude! Can’t the dumb kids just take being told they’re dumb and there’s nothing more to do? So tiring! You’re out of it, unfair, and the numbers don’t back you up. You’re a biased person and clearly anti special needs children.
Your comments show your lack of understanding about special education guidelines and law, which are not drafted by schools or teachers.
You say “schools refuse to recognize dyslexia.” You Make no sense, and that’s not accurate. Schools by LAW cannot give a MEDICAL diagnosis. Dyslexia is a medical diagnosis. Schools can’t diagnose other medical diagnosis, like adhd, autism, or anxiety. Schools CAN Do testing and find a child eligible in specific learning disability (for students who have dyslexia, whether family got a medical diagnosis in writing or not).
Yes that is correct that students with low IQS may not qualify for special education. That’s the law!! I didn’t write and neither did your schools teachers. We’re not biased, against you, or anti-special education. Surely there are incompetent teachers (like there is incompetency in every field!). That doesn’t make it ok to come online and tell parents that school staff are all incompetent, don’t care about kids, and are on a mission to not serve children. And I assure you, teachers don’t think it’s a game. You’re out of line. I’m sorry for you that you are at this point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Remember parents: you can request an IEE for free if you don't like the quality of the school evals. You don't have to give a reason why you're requesting it. Just email the principal and copy the central office that you are requesting one. They are free.
My response to this comment was deleted. This board is heavily censored if a teacher shares the other side of the story, which is a shame and does not benefit anyone.
IEEs are not free. They cost thousands of dollars paid by the school system and tax payors. The intent is so parents have an option if they disagree with school assessments. Most IEES I see, do not follow that intent. Many Parents just want more assessments paid by someone else. Many do abuse the system. Those are facts and stop deleting and censoring school staff.
The fact that you don’t understand or credit why a parent being told by the entity that would be responsible for providing services that there are no appropriate services to be provided, and might want a neutral opinion on the subject, speaks volumes about your general logical abilities. No, I don’t trust the school to tell me my kid is just too low IQ - not low IQ enough for a certificate program! But low enough to get no services beyond meaningless nothings. And neither would you or any parent invested in their child’s life. Luckily for me I have the resources not to be so bound, and can do it all privately. But for those that don’t - they should fight tooth and nail to figure out how their children can be helped. And for many of these people, they’ve spent the money that they have available buying a house in a good school area, paying taxes, and filling in all of the gaps that are not funded. The idea that the school shouldn’t be held to an objective standard is utter crap.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Remember parents: you can request an IEE for free if you don't like the quality of the school evals. You don't have to give a reason why you're requesting it. Just email the principal and copy the central office that you are requesting one. They are free.
My response to this comment was deleted. This board is heavily censored if a teacher shares the other side of the story, which is a shame and does not
benefit anyone.
IEEs are not free. They cost thousands of dollars paid by the school system and tax payors. The intent is so parents have an option if they disagree with school assessments. Most IEES I see, do not follow that intent. Many Parents just want more assessments paid by someone else. Many do abuse the system. Those are facts and stop deleting and censoring school staff.
You’re not being censored, you’re just ridiculous. I responded to you and it was also deleted. Your insistence that greedy special needs parents are taking money away from the school system is wrong, asinine, blame shifting, and again, ridiculous. Most parents are, as the school system prefers, completely clueless and unable to advocate for themselves in the system. The school systems fight tooth and nail to avoid spending money on special education, going so far as to refuse to recognize dyslexia, the most common LD, and refusing to provide evidence based accommodations for it. We all understand there are limited resources and this is the game we are all forced to play. But the idea that the schools are just doing all they can while the mean old parents are robbing them, trying to make them comply with FAPE! Rude! Can’t the dumb kids just take being told they’re dumb and there’s nothing more to do? So tiring! You’re out of it, unfair, and the numbers don’t back you up. You’re a biased person and clearly anti special needs children.