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The problem is that a lot of kids don’t try the first time and there are no retakes in college. So having a ceiling on the points you can earn the second time around seems to be a balanced approach.

FWIW, some college classes definitely allow retakes. I know most immediately because I'm a college prof and I allow them for the reason mentioned above. In general, there are many different approaches to grading in modern universities. (On a slight OT: now we have to scrap everything and figure it all back out because of LLMs).

Are these schools really supportive for https://youtu.be/cUxG4ZvB2RA?feature=shared students though?

Anonymous wrote:That’s great. What does that GPA translate to in terms of class rank?

Top 1/3.

That’s great. What does that GPA translate to in terms of class rank?

My current JR senior with a 4.0 weighted GPA and no SAT scores submitted got accepted to the flagship state schools they applied to (UMD, UVM, CU Boulder) and a couple of privates. Moderate AP load (2 in junior year, 3 in senior year), decent extracurriculars and a well-rounded social life. If you are looking to save on tuition, UVM and the privates with substantial endowments offered significant merit scholarship.

Grade inflation is a thing at JR just as it is throughout the country. In my experience, the kids who get into top schools from JR have hooks and/or top scores.

No Sat or Act scores yet. Based on previous standardized tests I would expect them to be fine but nothing extraordinary.

What are your kid's scores? A lot depends on that.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on acceptances and commitments this year at JR, it seems the popular schools are Penn State, UofCO Boulder, Tulane, Wisconsin, Oregon

My kid had a 3.5 from a local very rigorous private, not with the most rigorous course load, and was rejected from Boulder and Wisconsin and WL at Penn State. I find it hard to believe that average kids from JR would get into Wisconsin.

Wisconsin has an 18% OOS acceptance rate. Not easy but definitely not impossible and I would imagine more kids from JR are likely to accept an offer.

Scrolling through the JR 2024 Insta I think I counted six kids who are headed to Madison this fall. And the Insta is a student volunteering the info kind of thing. So there are probably one or two more who haven't posted.

Wisconsin is definitely hard now - though a lot of JR kids are going there. For some reason, Wisconsin likes JR while Michigan does not. But, they are all top students with decent extracurriculars and often in an academy. Kids with your child's grades are going to Penn State (very good school just big so lots of space), Pitt, U of Vermont, Temple, College of Charleston, U of Arizona, UMass, CU - though not a given - not any are going there but a big state school that is good as safety is also U of Minnesota.

Are you kidding? There are at least six kids going to Michigan from JR (five on the instagram and at least one more that I know of). Same in the last few years; Michigan LOVES JR kids.

Agreed. I've been looking at the JR Insta and it's pretty impressive. Ivies are represented, as well as BU, Northwestern, UC Berkeley, Johns Hopkins, and a bunch of other top 25. As for schools that seem to show JR the most love, 10 headed to Penn State, 6 each to Tulane, Colorado Boulder, Wisconsin, Madison, and yeah, 5 at Michigan. And again, that's only the kids who chose to post.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on acceptances and commitments this year at JR, it seems the popular schools are Penn State, UofCO Boulder, Tulane, Wisconsin, Oregon

My kid had a 3.5 from a local very rigorous private, not with the most rigorous course load, and was rejected from Boulder and Wisconsin and WL at Penn State. I find it hard to believe that average kids from JR would get into Wisconsin.

Wisconsin has an 18% OOS acceptance rate. Not easy but definitely not impossible and I would imagine more kids from JR are likely to accept an offer.

Scrolling through the JR 2024 Insta I think I counted six kids who are headed to Madison this fall. And the Insta is a student volunteering the info kind of thing. So there are probably one or two more who haven't posted.

Wisconsin is definitely hard now - though a lot of JR kids are going there. For some reason, Wisconsin likes JR while Michigan does not. But, they are all top students with decent extracurriculars and often in an academy. Kids with your child's grades are going to Penn State (very good school just big so lots of space), Pitt, U of Vermont, Temple, College of Charleston, U of Arizona, UMass, CU - though not a given - not any are going there but a big state school that is good as safety is also U of Minnesota.

Are you kidding? There are at least six kids going to Michigan from JR (five on the instagram and at least one more that I know of). Same in the last few years; Michigan LOVES JR kids.

Three or four years ago, there was some list that showed that Wilson (now JR) was among one of the highest out-of-state feeders to Michigan. It has just gotten to be a much harder school to get into from everywhere.

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Anonymous wrote:Based on acceptances and commitments this year at JR, it seems the popular schools are Penn State, UofCO Boulder, Tulane, Wisconsin, Oregon

My kid had a 3.5 from a local very rigorous private, not with the most rigorous course load, and was rejected from Boulder and Wisconsin and WL at Penn State. I find it hard to believe that average kids from JR would get into Wisconsin.

Wisconsin has an 18% OOS acceptance rate. Not easy but definitely not impossible and I would imagine more kids from JR are likely to accept an offer.

Scrolling through the JR 2024 Insta I think I counted six kids who are headed to Madison this fall. And the Insta is a student volunteering the info kind of thing. So there are probably one or two more who haven't posted.

Wisconsin is definitely hard now - though a lot of JR kids are going there. For some reason, Wisconsin likes JR while Michigan does not. But, they are all top students with decent extracurriculars and often in an academy. Kids with your child's grades are going to Penn State (very good school just big so lots of space), Pitt, U of Vermont, Temple, College of Charleston, U of Arizona, UMass, CU - though not a given - not any are going there but a big state school that is good as safety is also U of Minnesota.

Are you kidding? There are at least six kids going to Michigan from JR (five on the instagram and at least one more that I know of). Same in the last few years; Michigan LOVES JR kids.

The problem is that a lot of kids don’t try the first time and there are no retakes in college. So having a ceiling on the points you can earn the second time around seems to be a balanced approach.

FWIW, some college classes definitely allow retakes. I know most immediately because I'm a college prof and I allow them for the reason mentioned above. In general, there are many different approaches to grading in modern universities. (On a slight OT: now we have to scrap everything and figure it all back out because of LLMs).

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Anonymous wrote:Based on acceptances and commitments this year at JR, it seems the popular schools are Penn State, UofCO Boulder, Tulane, Wisconsin, Oregon

My kid had a 3.5 from a local very rigorous private, not with the most rigorous course load, and was rejected from Boulder and Wisconsin and WL at Penn State. I find it hard to believe that average kids from JR would get into Wisconsin.

Wisconsin has an 18% OOS acceptance rate. Not easy but definitely not impossible and I would imagine more kids from JR are likely to accept an offer.

Scrolling through the JR 2024 Insta I think I counted six kids who are headed to Madison this fall. And the Insta is a student volunteering the info kind of thing. So there are probably one or two more who haven't posted.

Wisconsin is definitely hard now - though a lot of JR kids are going there. For some reason, Wisconsin likes JR while Michigan does not. But, they are all top students with decent extracurriculars and often in an academy. Kids with your child's grades are going to Penn State (very good school just big so lots of space), Pitt, U of Vermont, Temple, College of Charleston, U of Arizona, UMass, CU - though not a given - not any are going there but a big state school that is good as safety is also U of Minnesota.

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Anonymous wrote:Retakes are a suck on teachers' limited time. I want kids to do the work the first time so they don't slow down the class and waste the teacher's time with emails and conversations about logistics just because some kid couldn't be bothered in the first place.

You seem to have a really low opinion of students. My kids try the first time and are usually very successful. The fact that they can do a retake on the occasions when they aren’t gives them an incentive to go back and figure out what they didn’t get rather than just moving on to the next thing. Hard to imagine most of the kids who chronically can’t be bothered in the first place are going to spend the time and energy on lots of retakes.

Teacher here and every now and then a test is really hard and retake is fine. I always want to make sure the kids are learning. But the kids who are lazy and just do the work and then show up the last week of the term begging me to stay after school? Should get rid of the mandate for revisions - leave it up to teacher - and get rid of late work. It helps no one to be able to hand in work from the first week of the term on the last day. No accountability and no learning.