Anonymous wrote:The problem with not splitting evenly is that 100000% if you're the schmuck who gets the bill last you're going to get screwed because so many idiots at the table never add in taxes and tip.

Done this so many times where the entire table is like $120 short and no one wants to budge at adding in more even though they're shorting on tax and tip.

Worst experience of all time was.when we had like 13 people for a suckling log dinner at a restaurant. Of course the whiner.in the group only wanted to pay for their drinks and their own food because they didn't eat the appetizer. It made the bill a giant pain in the ass because everyone had to break down every single drink item they had. Then they had to figure out how many people ate appetizer X and split that, then appetizer Y and split that among those who ate, etc. it took 1.5 hours because even after people itemized they had people who calculated it wrong, who were being dishonest, or who wanted to throw $0 in for taxes and tip.

Honestly,.if you get angry over $40 or $50 extra during a night out with your friends because they might have gotten wine while you had water stay a home. Over time it works out in the long run. People who want to pay their own are the biggest pain in the ass. And then you'll get whiners who might complain they only ate 5% of shared dish X while everyone else at 10%, therefore they should pay less even though it was shared.

Just say no next time if people ask you out and you want to pay your own. You are a horrible person that is a pain in the ass.

Anonymous wrote:This was years ago at my first job. Congressional Research Service. We went for a group lunch at a Chinese restaurant nearby. Same price for everyone no booze. Everyone threw down some money and fled. I was the lowest ranking GS-7 so I was supposed to stay and pay. It was $100 short counting tax and tip. I had to use my credit card, get a copy of the bill and go around asking for money.
I learned to calculate my fair share from then on and always have cash of various denominations to throw and run.

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Anonymous wrote:I went to brunch with a large group. They didn't ask for separate checks, just passed the little black book with the bill around the table after the meal and everyone put in cash.

I was one of the last people to contribute, and I noticed there was already more than enough cash in the book to cover the meal and a decent tip. But I still put in my share, including tip, as did the guy next to me.

Then I watched as the last guy in the group -- known for being a cheapskate -- counted the cash in the book, TOOK several bills out and put them in his pocket, closed the book and set it on the table.

Not only did he not contribute, he actually stole money from the group -- and possibly the server. Unbelievable. I never went out to eat with him again.

Why don’t you call him out then and there? Instead of seething and raising it online years later?

I was 20. It was a work thing. I was an admin and he was a senior manager. I barely knew him, but I had heard people call him cheap.

Seriously -- "seething"? I was disgusted. But I was in no position to call him out. Possibly a situation OP's DC might encounter.

What's the point of this thread if we're not supposed to share stories???

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Anonymous wrote:When I was a broke student I attended a multi-course, preset menu baby shower at an expensive restaurant, and all of the invited guests were presented with a bill at the end of the meal. There went my grocery budget for the week! Still mad at myself for not speaking up.

Thats awful! You don’t invite someone to an event like a baby shower and then present them with a bill. Who raised these people?

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Anonymous wrote:Teach her that it’s easiest to just split down the middle than try to do the math and if she can’t afford to do that, don’t go out.

Here’s the moocher!!

Easier for you, but not for those are actually on a budget and don’t want to fund your expensive tastes and insensitivity.

agree -- I remember the days when I was first starting out and I made a lot less than my friends. When they split the bill evenly it really hurt my budget. But I never said anything.

This depends on your friends. I make a lot of money now (as do my friends, generally speaking), but I didn’t always and have always been in the split the bill camp. But no one engages in egregious behavior. Sometimes somebody has one more drink than the rest, or someone orders food while the rest of us just have drinks, but it generally evens out over time. But I agree people should be sensitive to that if you’re a group that splits evenly. Or someone else speaks up for the person who just got ice cream (or whatever) and everyone else splits.

OP, you have the right idea teaching your DD to remember to add tax and tip. On the rare occasion that I pay someone else for my proportional share of a bill I always round up/add a few extra dollars after tax and 20% tip just to be careful and thank the person who put it on their card. I really can’t stand people who are cheap at the expense of their friends.

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Anonymous wrote:One person at a large table who states she will not tip on the tax. Which is like a small amount but still will not pay the same amount as everyone else so others have to make up for it to have a full tip. And for those of you who don't tip on the tax, you're cheap.

You don't tip on the tax.

You're a brainwashed American idiot.

There shouldn't even be tips for starters.

Anonymous wrote:People always say "oh, it all comes out in the wash" but that hasn't been my experience. The light eaters/non-drinkers/vegetarians always dine that way, as do the big eaters and boozers.

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Anonymous wrote:Teach her that it’s easiest to just split down the middle than try to do the math and if she can’t afford to do that, don’t go out.

Here’s the moocher!!

Easier for you, but not for those are actually on a budget and don’t want to fund your expensive tastes and insensitivity.

agree -- I remember the days when I was first starting out and I made a lot less than my friends. When they split the bill evenly it really hurt my budget. But I never said anything.

This depends on your friends. I make a lot of money now (as do my friends, generally speaking), but I didn’t always and have always been in the split the bill camp. But no one engages in egregious behavior. Sometimes somebody has one more drink than the rest, or someone orders food while the rest of us just have drinks, but it generally evens out over time. But I agree people should be sensitive to that if you’re a group that splits evenly. Or someone else speaks up for the person who just got ice cream (or whatever) and everyone else splits.

OP, you have the right idea teaching your DD to remember to add tax and tip. On the rare occasion that I pay someone else for my proportional share of a bill I always round up/add a few extra dollars after tax and 20% tip just to be careful and thank the person who put it on their card. I really can’t stand people who are cheap at the expense of their friends.

The people who expect others to foot their bill are the cheap ones. Pay your own bill and stop expecting others to pay.

Anonymous wrote:The problem with not splitting evenly is that 100000% if you're the schmuck who gets the bill last you're going to get screwed because so many idiots at the table never add in taxes and tip.

Done this so many times where the entire table is like $120 short and no one wants to budge at adding in more even though they're shorting on tax and tip.

Anonymous wrote:One person at a large table who states she will not tip on the tax. Which is like a small amount but still will not pay the same amount as everyone else so others have to make up for it to have a full tip. And for those of you who don't tip on the tax, you're cheap.