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Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

The link says, "The 76 members of the Class of 2023 applied to 164 different colleges and received a total of 290 acceptances; 40 schools were represented among their final matriculation plans," yet it only lists 20 great schools. What about the other 20 schools the class of 2023 is attending? I'm curious as to why they also didn't post the other 20 schools. These so-called elite independent schools have kids who attend everything from an Ivy to a local school, yet they tend only to post the top schools.

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Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

yes, they have about a 100% admissions rate to Dartmouth for boys over a certain (extremely high) GPA.
They have similar results with a number of other top schools (not all but some).

This is not unique to STA--it's similar at all the top privates. They're not like publics where there are a large number of kids who have 4.0s or close to it. At the top privates there may be 1 or 2 kids with a 3.95+.
A's are very hard to get--some classes only give 1 or 2 between all students. If you can manage to be that kid in all your classes you can pretty much pick your college or at least be assured that you'll get into one of your top 2 choices. However, the problem is that it's really hard to be this kid. You have to be super smart, diligent (no quiz you just blow off and of course no late work ever) and also lucky. There are teachers that don't give As.

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Anonymous wrote:What are some Feeder schools into Dartmouth?

None in the DMV.

St. Albans has sent 17 to Dartmouth over the last five years, the same number as they have sent to Yale over the last five years, but less than Chicago (37)

https://www.stalbansschool.org/about/at-a-glance

^^^ Bleh, as soon as post it I catch a glaring mistake. Should be "Let's assume two unhooked, academically advanced students from a UMC family. Student A attends private, student B attends public."

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Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

Then why are there only about 8 or 9 students going to Ivies from JR this year? Out of a class of over 500.

Grades must not be the most important factor…especially at a high school with rampant grade inflation and assignment retakes.

Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools. The quality of the student at J-R is also far more variable than an elite private, so the competition is easier. My point is that for a very accomplished student, the J-R applicant pool is much easier to stand out in. If you go to NCS, you will be competing with girls that have nationally-recognized researchers or writers, legacies, athletes, or VIP.

It's just so much easier for an academically-strong student to stand out at J-R than at NCS.

Facts show top students percentage wise are less likely to go to an IVY or top 20 school than at top privates. Percentage wise they send a very very low number. They have 500 plus kids per grade. Many kids with high GPAs.

My understanding of the data is a bit different, depending who you are. Let's assume two unhooked, academically advanced student from a UMC family. Student A attends private, student B attends private. Their respective HS both have ~50 students in their class who are aiming for a T20 college/uni. These students are competing for admission against other students across the country who are also well-qualified, and also competing directly against their peers at their HS (a 2nd or 3rd offer of admission at a given HS is a lower bar than the 7th or 8th... the college/unis avoid admitting too many from the same HS).

Student A is competing against a greater proportion of kids with hooks at their HS, and therefore their odds of admission are diminished within this cohort. The distribution of academic ability of students at their private HS is skewed in the "average and above" academic range, so their HS has a comparatively high cohort of T20-competitive kids, primarily because there is a lower denominator (few academically below-average kids).

Student B has a similar-sized cohort of local competition at their HS, but fewer of their peers have hooks. As such, his prospects amongst his peers are comparatively better than Student A, due to the more even playing field. The public HS has a much higher percentage of kids in the "average and below" academic range, which brings the HS's percentage of T20-admits way down, but that's immaterial for the ~50 students in the T20-competitive cohort. You could add another 200 non-T20-competitive kids to the school and bring that T20-admit percentage down even lower, but that has no impact on the prospects of T20-competitive cohort, as they are just competing amongst themselves (and nationally).

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Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

Then why are there only about 8 or 9 students going to Ivies from JR this year? Out of a class of over 500.

Grades must not be the most important factor…especially at a high school with rampant grade inflation and assignment retakes.

Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools. The quality of the student at J-R is also far more variable than an elite private, so the competition is easier. My point is that for a very accomplished student, the J-R applicant pool is much easier to stand out in. If you go to NCS, you will be competing with girls that have nationally-recognized researchers or writers, legacies, athletes, or VIP.

It's just so much easier for an academically-strong student to stand out at J-R than at NCS.

Facts show top students percentage wise are less likely to go to an IVY or top 20 school than at top privates. Percentage wise they send a very very low number. They have 500 plus kids per grade. Many kids with high GPAs.

I think that's the thing--there is a very large number of kids with high grades as grades are based mostly on completion than any objection critique of the work.
Also, many of the highest achievers leave DCPS for private school in 9th. Not all but many. I have 3 kids who were at Deal and each time I'd say that 90% of the smartest, most driven kids we know left for private and others for Walls.

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Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

Then why are there only about 8 or 9 students going to Ivies from JR this year? Out of a class of over 500.

Grades must not be the most important factor…especially at a high school with rampant grade inflation and assignment retakes.

Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools. The quality of the student at J-R is also far more variable than an elite private, so the competition is easier. My point is that for a very accomplished student, the J-R applicant pool is much easier to stand out in. If you go to NCS, you will be competing with girls that have nationally-recognized researchers or writers, legacies, athletes, or VIP.

It's just so much easier for an academically-strong student to stand out at J-R than at NCS.

Facts show top students percentage wise are less likely to go to an IVY or top 20 school than at top privates. Percentage wise they send a very very low number. They have 500 plus kids per grade. Many kids with high GPAs.

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Anonymous wrote:Not NCS, unless you are 3.8+ and 1550+ w/ legacy

NCS has a great number of Ivy admits this year, including one Dartmouth. 2 Yale. 2 Princeton. Harvard, Columbia, Cornell, Penn. and one MIT. Not all are posted. That’s 10/71. Amazing numbers. And a very small minority of them are legacy.

Those universities have about an 8% admit rate ... that the admit rate for NCS students is a bit higher is hardly "amazing." Most NCS students still have only a poor chance of getting in.

By contrast, Colligiate in NY and St. Ann's in Brooklyn have a 50+% admit rate. That is "amazing."

They do not have a 50 percent admit rate. False.

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Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

Then why are there only about 8 or 9 students going to Ivies from JR this year? Out of a class of over 500.

Grades must not be the most important factor…especially at a high school with rampant grade inflation and assignment retakes.

Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools. The quality of the student at J-R is also far more variable than an elite private, so the competition is easier. My point is that for a very accomplished student, the J-R applicant pool is much easier to stand out in. If you go to NCS, you will be competing with girls that have nationally-recognized researchers or writers, legacies, athletes, or VIP.

It's just so much easier for an academically-strong student to stand out at J-R than at NCS.

Untrue. JR students are just less successful at Ivy admissions than their DC independent school counterparts.

Anonymous wrote:Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools.

Yeah, that's just not true. As a percentage, absolutely lower. But it has 4 to 5 times the number of students of the DC privates. It's also drawing from the city's most affluent neighborhoods (i.e., lots of Ivy legacy parents).

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Anonymous wrote:If your goal is simply Ivy, then save your cash, send your kid to a regular high school where they can be the superstar of their class.

You are way underestimating how hard it is to be "the superstar" at a public high school, especially in the DC area.

Enroll in Jackson-Reed. It's not hard at all to get a 4.5 GPA and carve a nice extracurricular niche in time for college admissions.

Then why are there only about 8 or 9 students going to Ivies from JR this year? Out of a class of over 500.

Grades must not be the most important factor…especially at a high school with rampant grade inflation and assignment retakes.

Jackson-Reed has far fewer students gunning for Ivies than the elite private schools. The quality of the student at J-R is also far more variable than an elite private, so the competition is easier. My point is that for a very accomplished student, the J-R applicant pool is much easier to stand out in. If you go to NCS, you will be competing with girls that have nationally-recognized researchers or writers, legacies, athletes, or VIP.

It's just so much easier for an academically-strong student to stand out at J-R than at NCS.

PP claimed that "NCS is...way more of a pressure cooker than the top local publics."

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Anonymous wrote:NCS is way more expensive and way more of a pressure cooker than the top local publics too.

You clearly haven't read the MCPS forums here. Whitman, Wootton, RMIB, et al. are quite frequently described as big pressure cookers.

Who cares?

Anonymous wrote:NCS is way more expensive and way more of a pressure cooker than the top local publics too.

You clearly haven't read the MCPS forums here. Whitman, Wootton, RMIB, et al. are quite frequently described as big pressure cookers.

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Anonymous wrote:There's a town in Vermont where everyone gets free tuition to Dartmouth because of an old land grant arrangement.

Only 8 kids have gone to Dartmouth from this town in over 175 years.

It's just a fun fact. It's a town of less than 1000 people total, so I wouldn't expect this to happen very often.