If you're an ambitious woman who makes good money, why on earth do you want or need a man? It's like an anchor.

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Anonymous wrote:Ignore everyone on this thread.

Ambitious men seek LOW DRAMA, easy going, and low maintenance women from desirable socioeconomic backgrounds.

Some people would consider these women formats, but women who fit the personality type don’t find it difficult to just go with the flow and function as supportive accessories who require little to no maintenance.

So ... just allow that objectification and smile sweetly while making that sandwich.

Lol. F$#& the patriarchy, and your little post too.

I never said I supported it. Just calling it like I see it.

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Anonymous wrote:Like attracts like most of the time, especially in DC.

The vast majority of married men I know who are ambitious and successful are married to women who are well educated and successful.

If you're a waitress with just a couple semesters of community college under your belt or just a GED, you're not gonna land some super successful man.

This is OP. I am Ivy educated and have a good career in communications. I am slim and love to workout and am obsessed with self improvement. I also love the arts; classic literature, theatre, museums, music hence why I get along with the cultured but the unambiguous men I’ve met.

Yes, I’d like to discuss Hemingway or Proust but I also like to have a 5 year plan, a 401k and goals and ambitions.

Have you read Proust? Not many people have. The only (three) people I know who have were professors. They were definitely ambitious people, because academia is cutthroat. I think you mean a rich man?

Anyone who has gone to Catholic high school has read that and Faust twice before college. And if liberal arts had to read it a third time.

lol, no one reads Proust, even when you are assigned Proust. It’s like its own joke.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Like attracts like most of the time, especially in DC.

The vast majority of married men I know who are ambitious and successful are married to women who are well educated and successful.

If you're a waitress with just a couple semesters of community college under your belt or just a GED, you're not gonna land some super successful man.

This is OP. I am Ivy educated and have a good career in communications. I am slim and love to workout and am obsessed with self improvement. I also love the arts; classic literature, theatre, museums, music hence why I get along with the cultured but the unambiguous men I’ve met.

Yes, I’d like to discuss Hemingway or Proust but I also like to have a 5 year plan, a 401k and goals and ambitions.

Have you read Proust? Not many people have. The only (three) people I know who have were professors. They were definitely ambitious people, because academia is cutthroat. I think you mean a rich man?

Anyone who has gone to Catholic high school has read that and Faust twice before college. And if liberal arts had to read it a third time.

Really? All seven volumes of In Search of Lost Time (or Rembrance of Things Past, as you might have read an older edition at your Catholic school), or perhaps in the original French?

Yeah ... they haven't read Proust.

Anonymous wrote:Ignore everyone on this thread.

Ambitious men seek LOW DRAMA, easy going, and low maintenance women from desirable socioeconomic backgrounds.

Some people would consider these women formats, but women who fit the personality type don’t find it difficult to just go with the flow and function as supportive accessories who require little to no maintenance.

So ... just allow that objectification and smile sweetly while making that sandwich.

Lol. F$#& the patriarchy, and your little post too.

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Anonymous wrote:The problem with attracting an ambitious man is that, while they want an ambitious woman, you have to be willing to cast those ambitions aside for the sake of the relationship. So be prepared to get a grad degree but not use it, go to med school then quit when you have kids, etc. As an ambitious woman myself, I've never understood this paradox. If I have the drive to accomplish these things, I have no interest in throwing in the towel when I meet a guy. Seems antithetical.

Some women are academic wonders or professionally gifted but prefer family life over professional and social race. Just because they can, doesn't mean they want to run rat race. To each its own.

Obviously. My point is that it's rare to have the skills to be accomplished professionally and then actually have a desire to bow out. And I'm not talking at 45-50 when you figure out that it almost always is just a grind, no matter how noble or prestigious the job seems, but in your early to mid 30's, when you've finally got momentum. I'm not suggesting that there isn't a spectrum of justfiable choice, but that it often isn't a choice at all. Men often don't step up, and someone has to. Hence my original point, that attracting an ambitious man as an ambitious woman can be bittersweet. You often can have the partner/family or a career, but it's very difficult to have both.

Anonymous wrote:The most successful and ambitious men I know married similarly ambitious women or men, usually from college.

Same in my circle. Ones who didn't, many of them fell for gold diggers or difficult personalities with years of baggage.

There are different kinds of ambition. Of what you mean is "greedy" , well, don't expect that greed toalw room for your desires.

Anonymous wrote:The problem with attracting an ambitious man is that, while they want an ambitious woman, you have to be willing to cast those ambitions aside for the sake of the relationship. So be prepared to get a grad degree but not use it, go to med school then quit when you have kids, etc. As an ambitious woman myself, I've never understood this paradox. If I have the drive to accomplish these things, I have no interest in throwing in the towel when I meet a guy. Seems antithetical.

Some women are academic wonders or professionally gifted but prefer family life over professional and social race. Just because they can, doesn't mean they want to run rat race. To each its own.

what do you have to offer, besides tits and ass?

The most successful and ambitious men I know married similarly ambitious women or men, usually from college.

Anonymous wrote:The problem with attracting an ambitious man is that, while they want an ambitious woman, you have to be willing to cast those ambitions aside for the sake of the relationship. So be prepared to get a grad degree but not use it, go to med school then quit when you have kids, etc. As an ambitious woman myself, I've never understood this paradox. If I have the drive to accomplish these things, I have no interest in throwing in the towel when I meet a guy. Seems antithetical.

It’s not a paradox, you’ll just be another one of their trophies- look whom I got! Look what she gave up for me! It’s a flex.

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Anonymous wrote:Like attracts like most of the time, especially in DC.

The vast majority of married men I know who are ambitious and successful are married to women who are well educated and successful.

If you're a waitress with just a couple semesters of community college under your belt or just a GED, you're not gonna land some super successful man.

This is OP. I am Ivy educated and have a good career in communications. I am slim and love to workout and am obsessed with self improvement. I also love the arts; classic literature, theatre, museums, music hence why I get along with the cultured but the unambiguous men I’ve met.

Yes, I’d like to discuss Hemingway or Proust but I also like to have a 5 year plan, a 401k and goals and ambitions.

The thing is, lots of ambitious men in the early stages of their careers are working very demanding jobs and might not have the bandwidth for the arts, etc. I am not saying that there is a dichotomy of intellectual/ambitious, lots of them will get back to Hemingway and Proust once the things get more sane, but at this stage, if they have some free time, they are more likely to do something physical to clear the head and keep their body healthy.

Anonymous wrote:Ignore everyone on this thread.

Ambitious men seek LOW DRAMA, easy going, and low maintenance women from desirable socioeconomic backgrounds.

Some people would consider these women formats, but women who fit the personality type don’t find it difficult to just go with the flow and function as supportive accessories who require little to no maintenance.

*doormats not formats

Ignore everyone on this thread.

Ambitious men seek LOW DRAMA, easy going, and low maintenance women from desirable socioeconomic backgrounds.

Some people would consider these women formats, but women who fit the personality type don’t find it difficult to just go with the flow and function as supportive accessories who require little to no maintenance.