Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:TJ works only for the top 10%. For all the others its a struggle and schools like UVa and VT are out of reach.
Colleges look first at GPA. If it is not over 4.3 or so - you chances are hard
Getting a 4.3 at TJ is VERY HARD!
I don't know where my kid ended up in his TJ graduating class, but he finished with a 4.4 wGPA at TJ (albeit class of 2020). He got into UVa and W&M, but was shut out of most of the top tier SLACs he applied to (Williams, Amherst, Swarthmore, Carlton). He did get into Grinnell (with good merit), but ultimately picked W&M. He's about to graduate with degrees in CS and Mathematics. I'll echo earlier posters and say that I don't think TJ is particularly helpful from a college-admissions perspective, but it does (did?) provide a really good education. He has not found W&M to be very hard, and has done really well there.
I have another kid who turned down TJ and stayed at his base school to do the full IB program (in Arlington). He also seems to have gotten a really good education. His grades, scores, and EC's were all excellent, and he shot really high with his college apps. He did not get in to many places, but did get into Northeastern with excellent merit aid. He is very happy there and is doing well. He also reports that his HS education really prepared him well for college.
Anonymous wrote:TJ works only for the top 10%. For all the others its a struggle and schools like UVa and VT are out of reach.
Colleges look first at GPA. If it is not over 4.3 or so - you chances are hard
Getting a 4.3 at TJ is VERY HARD!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if 6OO TJ grads and reads general agreement that if under top 10 at TJ, more likely to not get into UVA and Tech, where are the other 500 TJ students going? And do the top 10 at TJ go to UVA or where do they go?
For SLHS, where do the top 10 there go? Is it the same as if at Chantilly or Oakton or Langley?
FCPS does not publish class rank so I don't know how you'd know who the top 10 were.
There were 129 posts to the instagram 2024 acceptances page - about 550 kids in the class so nowhere near all of them.
Still, out of the 129, there were grads who went to MIT, Princeton, Yale, and UCLA. Doubtless if there were a top ten they'd be in it.
Another 16 went to UVA and 15 to Virginia Tech. Perhaps you could say 3% of the class went to UVA and 3% to VT?
2024 kids are still deciding - most colleges pushed the deadlines to May 15, at least. Instagram is far from complete, so the conclusions you are drawing are premature at best.
Also, please remember these are real high school students, many of whom are minors still, and did not asked to be called out on such a widely read, public message board.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if 6OO TJ grads and reads general agreement that if under top 10 at TJ, more likely to not get into UVA and Tech, where are the other 500 TJ students going? And do the top 10 at TJ go to UVA or where do they go?
For SLHS, where do the top 10 there go? Is it the same as if at Chantilly or Oakton or Langley?
FCPS does not publish class rank so I don't know how you'd know who the top 10 were.
There were 129 posts to the instagram 2024 acceptances page - about 550 kids in the class so nowhere near all of them.
Still, out of the 129, there were grads who went to MIT, Princeton, Yale, and UCLA. Doubtless if there were a top ten they'd be in it.
Another 16 went to UVA and 15 to Virginia Tech. Perhaps you could say 3% of the class went to UVA and 3% to VT?
2024 kids are still deciding - most colleges pushed the deadlines to May 15, at least. Instagram is far from complete, so the conclusions you are drawing are premature at best.
Also, please remember these are real high school students, many of whom are minors still, and did not asked to be called out on such a widely read, public message board.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if 6OO TJ grads and reads general agreement that if under top 10 at TJ, more likely to not get into UVA and Tech, where are the other 500 TJ students going? And do the top 10 at TJ go to UVA or where do they go?
For SLHS, where do the top 10 there go? Is it the same as if at Chantilly or Oakton or Langley?
FCPS does not publish class rank so I don't know how you'd know who the top 10 were.
There were 129 posts to the instagram 2024 acceptances page - about 550 kids in the class so nowhere near all of them.
Still, out of the 129, there were grads who went to MIT, Princeton, Yale, and UCLA. Doubtless if there were a top ten they'd be in it.
Another 16 went to UVA and 15 to Virginia Tech. Perhaps you could say 3% of the class went to UVA and 3% to VT?
Anonymous wrote:Correct that Ivys looking at ending legacy admission consideration. Doesn’t mean they will do, but discussions have begun. Example from Crimson this fall: https://www.thecrimson.com/article/2023/10/18/hoekstra-legacy-admissions/
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Legacy bump is gone for Virginia public colleges -- by recent bi-partisan legislation which was signed by the governor.
Legacy consideration remains at many other states' public colleges. Remains at most private colleges, including most Ivys.
True, but this thread was about UVa. But if want to look OOS and private, more stopping the practice and my guess is more will follow. Below list from a Wash Post article last fall and before VA made the switch.
Legacy not considered at:
MIT
Johns Hopkins
Cal Tech
UC-Berkeley
UCLA
Carnegie Mellon
Michigan
UC-Santa Barbara
UC-Irvine
UT Austin
UC-Davis
University of Wisconsin at Madison
Georgia Tech
Georgia
Ohio State
University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign
Purdue
Florida State
Maryland
Rutgers
University of Washington
University of Pittsburgh
Amherst College (eliminated for fall 2023)
Texas A&M
University of Connecticut
U Mass Amherst
Indiana
UC- Santa Cruz
UC-Riverside
Auburn
University of Illinois Chicago
Anonymous wrote:Legacy bump is gone for Virginia public colleges -- by recent bi-partisan legislation which was signed by the governor.
Legacy consideration remains at many other states' public colleges. Remains at most private colleges, including most Ivys.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Is South lakes IB a good program? Is it a comparable school to Chantilly or Oakton for STEM oriented kids?
How do the college outcomes compare? My kid is hardworking and quite smart.
We are torn between moving to a different high school area vs staying put in SLHS. Thanks!
I have a kid at SLHS doing a full IB degree. Our experience has been positive and we are pleased with the IB program. One thing I’ve been super happy about is that the IB program has been excellent for writing. DS can push out a well written paper and is not at all phased when assigned a 1200 word essay.
I agree with the PP who said to choose what is best for your child now. I just want to let you know that staying at the base school is not such a horrible option.
Thanks for this information. We were dissuaded from pursuing the full IB because it was supposed to be a lot harder than AP schools to get a high GPA. Is this true in your experience?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So if 6OO TJ grads and reads general agreement that if under top 10 at TJ, more likely to not get into UVA and Tech, where are the other 500 TJ students going? And do the top 10 at TJ go to UVA or where do they go?
For SLHS, where do the top 10 there go? Is it the same as if at Chantilly or Oakton or Langley?
The top 10 go to MIT, Caltech, Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Carnegie Mellon for tech, Duke, some to UVA for sure. But not a ton. Not if they can get aid or afford the others.
Actually, that's not true. Just because you're in the top 10% at TJ, you're not a shoe-in for those schools. It seems to have a lot to do with legacy or winning national-level academic competitions or something else extraordinary like that.
Anonymous wrote:So if 6OO TJ grads and reads general agreement that if under top 10 at TJ, more likely to not get into UVA and Tech, where are the other 500 TJ students going? And do the top 10 at TJ go to UVA or where do they go?
For SLHS, where do the top 10 there go? Is it the same as if at Chantilly or Oakton or Langley?