Anonymous
Post 04/28/2024 18:38     Subject: Government clearance and marijuana
A lot of my fed colleagues lied on their sf-85 (or whatever number that form is)

They smoked weed nonstop until the day of their application submission. Who is really gonna check for the truth as long as your drug test comes out clean
Anonymous
Post 04/27/2024 13:47     Subject: Re:Government clearance and marijuana
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Any role which requires, or which may require in the future, a polygraph will reveal dissembling on the application, which will be disqualifying even if the nature of the prior drug use would not have been in itself. It doesn't matter that some people lack faith in polygraph results; the government uses the tool and relies on the results, which is all that matters.

With respect to the field component of the background investigation, investigators are often retired professional federal law enforcement officers pursuing a little extra income in retirement. They know what they are doing. And, listing only "reliable" friendly references won't save you from so-called developed (as opposed to listed) references - people you did not list but who were interviewed after being independently identified by the background investigator as potentially having relevant information to share. Those can include current/former neighbors, classmates, employers, co-workers, social acquaintances, and others.

Background investigations are not infallible, but it would be a mistake to dismiss them as superficial and ineffective.


Polygraphs are extremely easy to beat.

Retired officers are (even) dumb(er than they used to be at their peak).


Good discussion here on polys:
https://www.reddit.com/r/SecurityClearance/s/mN9vIRXCmk

As others stated in that Reddit, it’s a form of gate keeping. People who are shady don’t want to sit for it, which is exactly the point of the poly.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2024 22:09     Subject: Government clearance and marijuana
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does taking gummies count?


Technically yes, as do all CBD products (including topical). Seems extreme, but those are the rules


If you're a service member, this stuff is flat-out banned. And even if you're not, if you test positive, "but it was the legal kind" is not a fun path you want to go down. But if have done federally legal CBD products, you do not need to report them because they are federally legal.
Anonymous
Post 04/25/2024 22:08     Subject: Re:Government clearance and marijuana
Can we all agree that policing adult marijuana use is a massive waste of time and energy? This needs to end already. It’s ridiculous. Find some real problems to fix, federal government. They’re everywhere!