Anonymous wrote:Maryland, Wisconsin, and even Boulder are not safeties for anyone. Unless perhaps if you are applying to a less popular, less competitive specialty school (ag, nursing). I know of kids with good stats who were rejected from all of these schools

Boulder has an 80% acceptance rate and over a 90% ED acceptance rate. Even for OOS, they accept something like 2 out of 3 applicants, and you have to figure the school gets some pretty weak applicants (potheads, ski bums and the like).

Wisco and UMD might be borderline safeties for in-staters, but not for OOS.

Anonymous wrote:Kids routinely get rejected from schools where they are above the median, even 75th, so there are some wild misunderstandings about what a safety is here.

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Kids routinely get rejected from schools where they are above the median, even 75th, so there are some wild misunderstandings about what a safety is here.

Anonymous wrote:Maryland, Wisconsin, and even Boulder are not safeties for anyone. Unless perhaps if you are applying to a less popular, less competitive specialty school (ag, nursing). I know of kids with good stats who were rejected from all of these schools

It was a safety for their brilliant unique special snowflake!

Maryland, Wisconsin, and even Boulder are not safeties for anyone. Unless perhaps if you are applying to a less popular, less competitive specialty school (ag, nursing). I know of kids with good stats who were rejected from all of these schools

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Anonymous wrote:Pitt, Wisconsin, Rutgers, Delaware, UMD

Wisco is not a safety for anyone from out of state.

Fetch

Well, it was for my kid, and she got in, don't know what to tell you. Naviance for our large NJ public was clear she would with her stats and she didn't sweat it.

Perhaps you were looking at the scattergrams, but I know some people use Naviance's literal statements of whether a particular schools is a safety, match, or reach for that particular student. Upcoming applicants should know that this is a dangerous approach. A top student I know was rejected from a sought-after out-of-state university that accepts less than 15% of out-of-state applicants.

Naviance had said it was a safety. But here's their definition of safety: "Your academic qualifications (GPA & test scores) are above the academic profile of students nationally who are typically enrolled at this institution." Obviously, in this environment, it's not enough to have higher stats than "typical" to be guaranteed admission. In their labeling, Naviance is not accounting for increasingly more difficult admissions, and it's unclear whether they are comparing in-state and out-of-state selectivity rates. All around, I think Naviance can be a good tool, but it probably burns a lot of student who look at those labels.

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Anonymous wrote:Pitt, Wisconsin, Rutgers, Delaware, UMD

Wisco is not a safety for anyone from out of state.

Fetch

Well, it was for my kid, and she got in, don't know what to tell you. Naviance for our large NJ public was clear she would with her stats and she didn't sweat it.

DP
Holy fückballs her getting in still doesn’t make it a safety. There are thousands of other kids with her stats who didn’t get in. Wisconsin is not a safety for ANYONE out of state.

We are in NC. Our safeties (humanity major) are:

NCSU
App State
UNCG

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Anonymous wrote:Pitt, Wisconsin, Rutgers, Delaware, UMD

Wisco is not a safety for anyone from out of state.

Wisconsin is a safety for the entire top25% —VA private

2 safeties:
Uva in state EA
Wake RD

Accepted to both and to 6 more higher ranked/T10s, including ivy where DC committed. Uva and wake both great but are backups/likelies for the top kids at the school

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Anonymous wrote:Pitt, Wisconsin, Rutgers, Delaware, UMD

Wisco is not a safety for anyone from out of state.

Fetch

Well, it was for my kid, and she got in, don't know what to tell you. Naviance for our large NJ public was clear she would with her stats and she didn't sweat it.

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Anonymous wrote:Pitt, Wisconsin, Rutgers, Delaware, UMD

Wisco is not a safety for anyone from out of state.

Fetch

Anonymous wrote:For those rejected in-state for UMD, what safeties or other targets did you like and ultimately choose?

We didn’t consider UMD in-state a safety. The likely schools were Michigan State, Delaware, and Towson. They also considered Ohio State but preferred Michigan State and didn’t want to apply to both.

For those rejected in-state for UMD, what safeties or other targets did you like and ultimately choose?

Can I list up?