Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:37     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP here

Kid goes to a non deal, school because we moved IB when they were in middle school and they didn't want to switch. Def not fraud, just don't like government officials snooping around my home. I'm happy to provide lots of support, and even do this if it's required by law, but not going to have a school official snoop in my house due to an overly zelous school administrator, I like my privacy.

While folks have shared that OSSE can investigate and do a home visit, I am still unclear if schools can require it when proper documentation has been provided.


Legally, the provision for home visits is if the paperwork wasn't provided: "If the person seeking to enroll the student is unable to produce documents complying with this section, the principal, or the principal’s designated employee, at his or her option and with the agreement of the person seeking to enroll the student, may conduct a home visit to determine residency. "

But also...you could just let them in...


I'm "not the OP" again--we provided all our documents! We were just told that "new" students would need a home visit. I assumed that meant non-Deal rising 9th graders since we've lived IB for JR for 5 years, but my kid has been enrolled in a public charter school rather than Deal.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:26     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:OP here

Kid goes to a non deal, school because we moved IB when they were in middle school and they didn't want to switch. Def not fraud, just don't like government officials snooping around my home. I'm happy to provide lots of support, and even do this if it's required by law, but not going to have a school official snoop in my house due to an overly zelous school administrator, I like my privacy.

While folks have shared that OSSE can investigate and do a home visit, I am still unclear if schools can require it when proper documentation has been provided.


Legally, the provision for home visits is if the paperwork wasn't provided: "If the person seeking to enroll the student is unable to produce documents complying with this section, the principal, or the principal’s designated employee, at his or her option and with the agreement of the person seeking to enroll the student, may conduct a home visit to determine residency. "

But also...you could just let them in...
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:26     Subject: Re:Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:I guess I get it for the free pre-K, but why on earth would anyone from MD or VA want to fraud themselves into DCPS for high school? I can't think of any DMV-area MD and VA high schools that I hold in so much less regard than JR that I would even contemplate this.

In the city . . . I get it. If DC cares about boundary fraud, they should try offering the same advanced programming at every school, rather than hoarding it for the very rich.



You really think there aren't any HS in PGCo that are worse than JR? Really?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:23     Subject: Re:Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
I guess I get it for the free pre-K, but why on earth would anyone from MD or VA want to fraud themselves into DCPS for high school? I can't think of any DMV-area MD and VA high schools that I hold in so much less regard than JR that I would even contemplate this.

In the city . . . I get it. If DC cares about boundary fraud, they should try offering the same advanced programming at every school, rather than hoarding it for the very rich.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:08     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
OP here

Kid goes to a non deal, school because we moved IB when they were in middle school and they didn't want to switch. Def not fraud, just don't like government officials snooping around my home. I'm happy to provide lots of support, and even do this if it's required by law, but not going to have a school official snoop in my house due to an overly zelous school administrator, I like my privacy.

While folks have shared that OSSE can investigate and do a home visit, I am still unclear if schools can require it when proper documentation has been provided.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:06     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have always done our residency stuff with our car registration and a drivers license. Boringly easy. I wonder if certain support documents make schools suspect you.


They may be using a third party verification service that looks for other evidence of domicile. So if you recently moved or have other addresses under your name, you’d get flagged.


I'd love to think they're paying that much attention, but there's such blatant residency fraud happening that I doubt it.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:03     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:We have always done our residency stuff with our car registration and a drivers license. Boringly easy. I wonder if certain support documents make schools suspect you.


They may be using a third party verification service that looks for other evidence of domicile. So if you recently moved or have other addresses under your name, you’d get flagged.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 13:01     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not OP but I also was told we’d need a home visit. My kid is at a charter school, not Deal, and I figured that was why. Our house is so messy and so filled with kid stuff that I have no concerns about passing this test!


They aren't the police or even OSSE. You can always just tell them to do what they want, but that documents required by law have been submitted and if they want to knock on a door that won't be answered, that's their business.


The "Home Visitation Consent & Verification Form" is an OSSE form. I don't think they do visits if you haven't signed it. The LEA (DCPS) can conduct the investigation, but it is part of that process. If you don't sign it, IDK what happens.

This is interesting: "For parent, guardian, and custodian, it is not a requirement that the student also reside at the DC residence, just that the enrolling person has the legal authority to enroll." So if you're a parent and you live there, the kid doesn't need to live there?


I don’t see that on the current form but maybe I missed it? It does seem to differentiate between adult and student though.

https://osse.dc.gov/publication/home-visitation-consent-and-verification-form
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 12:43     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:We have always done our residency stuff with our car registration and a drivers license. Boringly easy. I wonder if certain support documents make schools suspect you.


Or a change in address from an OOB single family home to an IB apartment between 8th and 9th grade….
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 12:37     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not OP but I also was told we’d need a home visit. My kid is at a charter school, not Deal, and I figured that was why. Our house is so messy and so filled with kid stuff that I have no concerns about passing this test!


They aren't the police or even OSSE. You can always just tell them to do what they want, but that documents required by law have been submitted and if they want to knock on a door that won't be answered, that's their business.


The "Home Visitation Consent & Verification Form" is an OSSE form. I don't think they do visits if you haven't signed it. The LEA (DCPS) can conduct the investigation, but it is part of that process. If you don't sign it, IDK what happens.

This is interesting: "For parent, guardian, and custodian, it is not a requirement that the student also reside at the DC residence, just that the enrolling person has the legal authority to enroll." So if you're a parent and you live there, the kid doesn't need to live there?


Maybe for divorced parents with one parent having custody while other parent who lives in the boundary may have weekend visitation, etc….which includes a room for the kid

The pint is 1 parent needs to physically live in the school boundary.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 12:36     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
We have always done our residency stuff with our car registration and a drivers license. Boringly easy. I wonder if certain support documents make schools suspect you.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 12:31     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not OP but I also was told we’d need a home visit. My kid is at a charter school, not Deal, and I figured that was why. Our house is so messy and so filled with kid stuff that I have no concerns about passing this test!


They aren't the police or even OSSE. You can always just tell them to do what they want, but that documents required by law have been submitted and if they want to knock on a door that won't be answered, that's their business.


They likely contacted OP to make an appointmet for a home visit. Therefore you should be home on the agreed date and time.
Sounds like you have something to hide or have nefarious reasons for not answering the door then.

Good luck with that and getting your child enrolled. Here’s an idea. Go to you actual IB school or move.
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 11:40     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m not OP but I also was told we’d need a home visit. My kid is at a charter school, not Deal, and I figured that was why. Our house is so messy and so filled with kid stuff that I have no concerns about passing this test!


They aren't the police or even OSSE. You can always just tell them to do what they want, but that documents required by law have been submitted and if they want to knock on a door that won't be answered, that's their business.


The "Home Visitation Consent & Verification Form" is an OSSE form. I don't think they do visits if you haven't signed it. The LEA (DCPS) can conduct the investigation, but it is part of that process. If you don't sign it, IDK what happens.

This is interesting: "For parent, guardian, and custodian, it is not a requirement that the student also reside at the DC residence, just that the enrolling person has the legal authority to enroll." So if you're a parent and you live there, the kid doesn't need to live there?
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 11:39     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Except you need your child enrolled and this response overlooks the headache of a registrar who refuses to do it without a home visit. Push back within reason. But it is at some point a lot easier to just do the visit (or wait until you are fully established at IB address)..
Anonymous
Post 04/08/2024 11:33     Subject: Jackson-Reed home visits for eligibility verification
Anonymous wrote:I’m not OP but I also was told we’d need a home visit. My kid is at a charter school, not Deal, and I figured that was why. Our house is so messy and so filled with kid stuff that I have no concerns about passing this test!


They aren't the police or even OSSE. You can always just tell them to do what they want, but that documents required by law have been submitted and if they want to knock on a door that won't be answered, that's their business.