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Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of bashing on this thread. We had a great experience with Dr. B, and wish her well. I sure wish we had someone like her at my daughter’s middle school.

There is bashing on EVERY thread. I am just getting my popcorn out because the Lafayette parents will complain about anything, anyone. There's no such thing as a unicorn principal when it comes to the parents. So much revisionist history, like being outraged when the teachers who parents demanded to have reprimanded/fired a few years earlier left.

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Anonymous wrote:Lafayette is the only elementary school in the city that is the same size as the proposed Miner/Maury cluster. I wonder if this move is to position her to take charge of the cluster.

This is the most interesting comment on this thread and the only reason I can see where she would agree to move.

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You mean because she has ambitions to oversee a transition to the cluster, and eventually lead it? Would that be an appealing job (seriously asking)?

+2 Also Maury has a principal. They told us that they basically will start talking about it again in 2026-27. Meaning earliest is 2027 or 2028… So she’s willing to wait 3-4 years? Or perhaps it’s a test to see how well she does with Miner first.

Anonymous wrote:There is a lot of bashing on this thread. We had a great experience with Dr. B, and wish her well. I sure wish we had someone like her at my daughter’s middle school.

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Anonymous wrote:Lafayette is the only elementary school in the city that is the same size as the proposed Miner/Maury cluster. I wonder if this move is to position her to take charge of the cluster.

This is the most interesting comment on this thread and the only reason I can see where she would agree to move.

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You mean because she has ambitions to oversee a transition to the cluster, and eventually lead it? Would that be an appealing job (seriously asking)?

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Anonymous wrote:You couldn’t pay me enough to be an elementary school principal. They have to be a business manager. Politician. Fundraiser. Cheerleader. Counselor. Pedagogical leader. Facilities manager. They have to manage really creative folks who may have vested a lot of time and energy into special units and activities that from year to year may not fit into the curriculum, and deal with those teachers when they get upset. Newer teachers are often more willing to go with the curriculum of the month, but fewer of them want to work the 60 hours a week that teachers used to, And they’re often not as excited about carrying on unpaid extra traditions. And in DC, the number of personnel evaluations that Principals have to write is crazy. Unless it’s changed, I think they have to do written evaluations of multiple paragraphs for every staff member multiple times a year. It’s a ridiculous amount— order of magnitude more human resources paperwork than managers of other similarly sized organizations.

First of all which principal is a counselor, pedagogical leader, or facilities manager?

That is the actual counselors, social workers, and teachers. Pedagogical leader? Yes I’m sure all of them have experience in special education, ELL, and the range of grades at one school.
Facilities? They all have a manger of operations.

Evaluations? They write a few sentences based off a rubric.

I will say managing adults is hard. But a good leader knows how to do these things and if you worked in DCPS you’d know there is no set curriculum, only set standards and tests. So no, they don’t have to ‘make’ teachers get on board with a curriculum unless they are a poor leader mandating everyone to do the exact same thing, thinking that means the same results will be produced.

I could go on about the other things mentioned, it’s true being a principal is difficult but let’s not act like they are the end all be all.

There actually is a DCPS curriculum in elementary school and it sucks.

There is not a mandated one.

I teach 4th grade, I don’t think it sucks.

You have a DCPS mandated curriculum?
There is no dcps curriculum for ELA, math there is Eureka but schools don’t have to use it.
ECE they make you do heggerty and building blocks.

But there’s no set curriculum for everything. And I do think if you’re not getting results with at risk kids as well it sucks.

I'm sorry, are you a DCPS school teacher or leader? If you are, please share your school because this is not my experience as a teacher and DCPS parent at all. There is absolutely a curriculum for ELA at DCPS, one that has been developed internally (as opposed to something like Eurkea for math). https://dcps.dc.gov/page/english-language-arts-01

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Anonymous wrote:Lafayette is the only elementary school in the city that is the same size as the proposed Miner/Maury cluster. I wonder if this move is to position her to take charge of the cluster.

This is the most interesting comment on this thread and the only reason I can see where she would agree to move.

Same

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:You couldn’t pay me enough to be an elementary school principal. They have to be a business manager. Politician. Fundraiser. Cheerleader. Counselor. Pedagogical leader. Facilities manager. They have to manage really creative folks who may have vested a lot of time and energy into special units and activities that from year to year may not fit into the curriculum, and deal with those teachers when they get upset. Newer teachers are often more willing to go with the curriculum of the month, but fewer of them want to work the 60 hours a week that teachers used to, And they’re often not as excited about carrying on unpaid extra traditions. And in DC, the number of personnel evaluations that Principals have to write is crazy. Unless it’s changed, I think they have to do written evaluations of multiple paragraphs for every staff member multiple times a year. It’s a ridiculous amount— order of magnitude more human resources paperwork than managers of other similarly sized organizations.

First of all which principal is a counselor, pedagogical leader, or facilities manager?

That is the actual counselors, social workers, and teachers. Pedagogical leader? Yes I’m sure all of them have experience in special education, ELL, and the range of grades at one school.
Facilities? They all have a manger of operations.

Evaluations? They write a few sentences based off a rubric.

I will say managing adults is hard. But a good leader knows how to do these things and if you worked in DCPS you’d know there is no set curriculum, only set standards and tests. So no, they don’t have to ‘make’ teachers get on board with a curriculum unless they are a poor leader mandating everyone to do the exact same thing, thinking that means the same results will be produced.

I could go on about the other things mentioned, it’s true being a principal is difficult but let’s not act like they are the end all be all.

There actually is a DCPS curriculum in elementary school and it sucks.

There is not a mandated one.

I teach 4th grade, I don’t think it sucks.

You have a DCPS mandated curriculum?
There is no dcps curriculum for ELA, math there is Eureka but schools don’t have to use it.
ECE they make you do heggerty and building blocks.

But there’s no set curriculum for everything. And I do think if you’re not getting results with at risk kids as well it sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You couldn’t pay me enough to be an elementary school principal. They have to be a business manager. Politician. Fundraiser. Cheerleader. Counselor. Pedagogical leader. Facilities manager. They have to manage really creative folks who may have vested a lot of time and energy into special units and activities that from year to year may not fit into the curriculum, and deal with those teachers when they get upset. Newer teachers are often more willing to go with the curriculum of the month, but fewer of them want to work the 60 hours a week that teachers used to, And they’re often not as excited about carrying on unpaid extra traditions. And in DC, the number of personnel evaluations that Principals have to write is crazy. Unless it’s changed, I think they have to do written evaluations of multiple paragraphs for every staff member multiple times a year. It’s a ridiculous amount— order of magnitude more human resources paperwork than managers of other similarly sized organizations.

First of all which principal is a counselor, pedagogical leader, or facilities manager?

That is the actual counselors, social workers, and teachers. Pedagogical leader? Yes I’m sure all of them have experience in special education, ELL, and the range of grades at one school.
Facilities? They all have a manger of operations.

Evaluations? They write a few sentences based off a rubric.

I will say managing adults is hard. But a good leader knows how to do these things and if you worked in DCPS you’d know there is no set curriculum, only set standards and tests. So no, they don’t have to ‘make’ teachers get on board with a curriculum unless they are a poor leader mandating everyone to do the exact same thing, thinking that means the same results will be produced.

I could go on about the other things mentioned, it’s true being a principal is difficult but let’s not act like they are the end all be all.

There actually is a DCPS curriculum in elementary school and it sucks.

There is not a mandated one.

I teach 4th grade, I don’t think it sucks.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You couldn’t pay me enough to be an elementary school principal. They have to be a business manager. Politician. Fundraiser. Cheerleader. Counselor. Pedagogical leader. Facilities manager. They have to manage really creative folks who may have vested a lot of time and energy into special units and activities that from year to year may not fit into the curriculum, and deal with those teachers when they get upset. Newer teachers are often more willing to go with the curriculum of the month, but fewer of them want to work the 60 hours a week that teachers used to, And they’re often not as excited about carrying on unpaid extra traditions. And in DC, the number of personnel evaluations that Principals have to write is crazy. Unless it’s changed, I think they have to do written evaluations of multiple paragraphs for every staff member multiple times a year. It’s a ridiculous amount— order of magnitude more human resources paperwork than managers of other similarly sized organizations.

First of all which principal is a counselor, pedagogical leader, or facilities manager?

That is the actual counselors, social workers, and teachers. Pedagogical leader? Yes I’m sure all of them have experience in special education, ELL, and the range of grades at one school.
Facilities? They all have a manger of operations.

Evaluations? They write a few sentences based off a rubric.

I will say managing adults is hard. But a good leader knows how to do these things and if you worked in DCPS you’d know there is no set curriculum, only set standards and tests. So no, they don’t have to ‘make’ teachers get on board with a curriculum unless they are a poor leader mandating everyone to do the exact same thing, thinking that means the same results will be produced.

I could go on about the other things mentioned, it’s true being a principal is difficult but let’s not act like they are the end all be all.

There actually is a DCPS curriculum in elementary school and it sucks.

There is not a mandated one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You couldn’t pay me enough to be an elementary school principal. They have to be a business manager. Politician. Fundraiser. Cheerleader. Counselor. Pedagogical leader. Facilities manager. They have to manage really creative folks who may have vested a lot of time and energy into special units and activities that from year to year may not fit into the curriculum, and deal with those teachers when they get upset. Newer teachers are often more willing to go with the curriculum of the month, but fewer of them want to work the 60 hours a week that teachers used to, And they’re often not as excited about carrying on unpaid extra traditions. And in DC, the number of personnel evaluations that Principals have to write is crazy. Unless it’s changed, I think they have to do written evaluations of multiple paragraphs for every staff member multiple times a year. It’s a ridiculous amount— order of magnitude more human resources paperwork than managers of other similarly sized organizations.

First of all which principal is a counselor, pedagogical leader, or facilities manager?

That is the actual counselors, social workers, and teachers. Pedagogical leader? Yes I’m sure all of them have experience in special education, ELL, and the range of grades at one school.
Facilities? They all have a manger of operations.

Evaluations? They write a few sentences based off a rubric.

I will say managing adults is hard. But a good leader knows how to do these things and if you worked in DCPS you’d know there is no set curriculum, only set standards and tests. So no, they don’t have to ‘make’ teachers get on board with a curriculum unless they are a poor leader mandating everyone to do the exact same thing, thinking that means the same results will be produced.

I could go on about the other things mentioned, it’s true being a principal is difficult but let’s not act like they are the end all be all.

There actually is a DCPS curriculum in elementary school and it sucks.

There is not a mandated one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You couldn’t pay me enough to be an elementary school principal. They have to be a business manager. Politician. Fundraiser. Cheerleader. Counselor. Pedagogical leader. Facilities manager. They have to manage really creative folks who may have vested a lot of time and energy into special units and activities that from year to year may not fit into the curriculum, and deal with those teachers when they get upset. Newer teachers are often more willing to go with the curriculum of the month, but fewer of them want to work the 60 hours a week that teachers used to, And they’re often not as excited about carrying on unpaid extra traditions. And in DC, the number of personnel evaluations that Principals have to write is crazy. Unless it’s changed, I think they have to do written evaluations of multiple paragraphs for every staff member multiple times a year. It’s a ridiculous amount— order of magnitude more human resources paperwork than managers of other similarly sized organizations.

First of all which principal is a counselor, pedagogical leader, or facilities manager?

That is the actual counselors, social workers, and teachers. Pedagogical leader? Yes I’m sure all of them have experience in special education, ELL, and the range of grades at one school.
Facilities? They all have a manger of operations.

Evaluations? They write a few sentences based off a rubric.

I will say managing adults is hard. But a good leader knows how to do these things and if you worked in DCPS you’d know there is no set curriculum, only set standards and tests. So no, they don’t have to ‘make’ teachers get on board with a curriculum unless they are a poor leader mandating everyone to do the exact same thing, thinking that means the same results will be produced.

I could go on about the other things mentioned, it’s true being a principal is difficult but let’s not act like they are the end all be all.

There actually is a DCPS curriculum in elementary school and it sucks.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette is the only elementary school in the city that is the same size as the proposed Miner/Maury cluster. I wonder if this move is to position her to take charge of the cluster.

This is the most interesting comment on this thread and the only reason I can see where she would agree to move.

Same

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You couldn’t pay me enough to be an elementary school principal. They have to be a business manager. Politician. Fundraiser. Cheerleader. Counselor. Pedagogical leader. Facilities manager. They have to manage really creative folks who may have vested a lot of time and energy into special units and activities that from year to year may not fit into the curriculum, and deal with those teachers when they get upset. Newer teachers are often more willing to go with the curriculum of the month, but fewer of them want to work the 60 hours a week that teachers used to, And they’re often not as excited about carrying on unpaid extra traditions. And in DC, the number of personnel evaluations that Principals have to write is crazy. Unless it’s changed, I think they have to do written evaluations of multiple paragraphs for every staff member multiple times a year. It’s a ridiculous amount— order of magnitude more human resources paperwork than managers of other similarly sized organizations.

First of all which principal is a counselor, pedagogical leader, or facilities manager?

That is the actual counselors, social workers, and teachers. Pedagogical leader? Yes I’m sure all of them have experience in special education, ELL, and the range of grades at one school.
Facilities? They all have a manger of operations.

Evaluations? They write a few sentences based off a rubric.

I will say managing adults is hard. But a good leader knows how to do these things and if you worked in DCPS you’d know there is no set curriculum, only set standards and tests. So no, they don’t have to ‘make’ teachers get on board with a curriculum unless they are a poor leader mandating everyone to do the exact same thing, thinking that means the same results will be produced.

I could go on about the other things mentioned, it’s true being a principal is difficult but let’s not act like they are the end all be all.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Lafayette is the only elementary school in the city that is the same size as the proposed Miner/Maury cluster. I wonder if this move is to position her to take charge of the cluster.

This is the most interesting comment on this thread and the only reason I can see where she would agree to move.