Anonymous
Post 04/03/2024 07:03     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:People are dying of cancer at earlier ages. Average lifespan is actually decreasing. If you are on any medications you should plan for a shorter, not longer life. Enjoy what you have now.


I keep hearing of 60 year olds dying, which seems younger the closer that I get to it.
Anonymous
Post 04/03/2024 06:58     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
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Anonymous wrote:US life expectancy is going down. Don't worry about past 90.


It’s going down because we’re importing hordes of third world immigrants and lots of people are ODing on fentanyl. This won’t affect your lifespan.


No. Cancer.


No, cancer rates are going up because we are detecting more cancers earlier but overall cancer mortality has decreased significantly, attributable to reductions in occupational exposure to hazardous chemicals and less smoking… so, cancer isn’t driving the (recent) decrease in life expectancy. It’s obesity, drugs, guns, car accidents, and undiagnosed mental health. And, Covid actually had a temporary impact.


It's decreased overall but the deadly ones persist (glioblastoma, pancreatic) and there are actual higher prevalences happening too not just a higher detection issue, see colorectal in young people under 45 and lung in non smoking women.


My mother's mother and grandmother lived to their 90s and she was just diagnosed with lung cancer in her late 60s. Non-smoker, healthy etc. It's sad and scary how quickly it can take down a healthy person. So I don't know what to think about what to expect for myself.


I'm so sorry, wishing your mom well. I think there are a lot of us with varying family histories with both streaks of high longevity and streaks of cancer. It's difficult to know which cancers have genetic underpinnings, doctors can be helpful in sorting out whether genetic testing coukd be helpful.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 14:19     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:US life expectancy is going down. Don't worry about past 90.


It’s going down because we’re importing hordes of third world immigrants and lots of people are ODing on fentanyl. This won’t affect your lifespan.


No. Cancer.


No, cancer rates are going up because we are detecting more cancers earlier but overall cancer mortality has decreased significantly, attributable to reductions in occupational exposure to hazardous chemicals and less smoking… so, cancer isn’t driving the (recent) decrease in life expectancy. It’s obesity, drugs, guns, car accidents, and undiagnosed mental health. And, Covid actually had a temporary impact.


It's decreased overall but the deadly ones persist (glioblastoma, pancreatic) and there are actual higher prevalences happening too not just a higher detection issue, see colorectal in young people under 45 and lung in non smoking women.


My mother's mother and grandmother lived to their 90s and she was just diagnosed with lung cancer in her late 60s. Non-smoker, healthy etc. It's sad and scary how quickly it can take down a healthy person. So I don't know what to think about what to expect for myself.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 14:17     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
I feel like so many people in my circle have cancer now and I'm only in my mid fifties. And they're scary cancers, not talking basal cell carcinoma, you know what I mean? More like myeloma, leukemia, neck. It makes me grateful every day. And has made me not assume I'll make 90 like both of my still living parents. They lived in a different world.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 14:13     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:US life expectancy is going down. Don't worry about past 90.


It’s going down because we’re importing hordes of third world immigrants and lots of people are ODing on fentanyl. This won’t affect your lifespan.


No. Cancer.


No, cancer rates are going up because we are detecting more cancers earlier but overall cancer mortality has decreased significantly, attributable to reductions in occupational exposure to hazardous chemicals and less smoking… so, cancer isn’t driving the (recent) decrease in life expectancy. It’s obesity, drugs, guns, car accidents, and undiagnosed mental health. And, Covid actually had a temporary impact.


It's decreased overall but the deadly ones persist (glioblastoma, pancreatic) and there are actual higher prevalences happening too not just a higher detection issue, see colorectal in young people under 45 and lung in non smoking women.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 14:08     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
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Anonymous wrote:OP —you’re in your 30s, you said. When you’re in your 50s, and some friends have died and others are dealing with health conditions, and your own body starts failing in various ways, you will no longer feel that you need to plan for living past 100. You’ll be hoping to make it to 80 in relatively good health.


Most of the people I know in their 50s and 60s are pretty healthy with no real concerns. I don't know anyone who has died (except by a car accident or whatever) and I'm in my 50s and don't really feel any aging effects yet. I think of what you're talking about as how you might feel in your 70s and 80s. My parents are in their 80s and still going strong--though they have a couple of health concerns. My grandparents passed away in their late 90s. So I think this really varies person to person/social circle to social circle. My parents are definitely planning to live to 100--and given that their parents all made it well into their 90s it doesn't seem too unlikely.


Well you do start to see some deadly cancers popping up in friends or family in the 50's...it's no longer rare. Consider yourself very fortunate.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 13:52     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:US life expectancy is going down. Don't worry about past 90.


It’s going down because we’re importing hordes of third world immigrants and lots of people are ODing on fentanyl. This won’t affect your lifespan.


No. Cancer.


No, cancer rates are going up because we are detecting more cancers earlier but overall cancer mortality has decreased significantly, attributable to reductions in occupational exposure to hazardous chemicals and less smoking… so, cancer isn’t driving the (recent) decrease in life expectancy. It’s obesity, drugs, guns, car accidents, and undiagnosed mental health. And, Covid actually had a temporary impact.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 09:15     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:US life expectancy is going down. Don't worry about past 90.


It’s going down because we’re importing hordes of third world immigrants and lots of people are ODing on fentanyl. This won’t affect your lifespan.


No. Cancer.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 09:13     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:Look at your family.

My parents and grandparents died around age 85 so that’s what I’m planning for.


This.

Don’t exclude death before age 90 for lifestyle factors, either. A healthy lifestyle doesn’t override genetics.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 09:11     Subject: Re:What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
For me, 70. I am planning to 90-100 because I want to leave a legacy to my children.

I got my life expectancy from a geneticist but genetics aren’t always destiny so I plan for both.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 08:55     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
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Anonymous wrote:Good question, I count in steps of 30. Planning 30-60-90. Money really only has to last from 70-90. If you make it to 120 - not sure how a society would be able to absorb all these old people. 50 years retirement is long.


That will blow up social security even more than it has been blown up. Can you imagine a society where all of these old people need a ton of care for 50 years each? Why would you want that? Maybe a pig heart can be transplanted into your body but your brain will definitely be fried. If you live past 100 it will be a few years. And your quality of life will probably not be great.


Retirement age will go up by 10y.
Can start receiving SS at age 72 and full benefits at 77.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 08:24     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Fascinating. My number is 95!

I have done some genealogical research and on my maternal side, relatives were living into their 80s well over 150 years ago.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 08:20     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
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Anonymous wrote:Lifespans are going down. People are much fatter than they used to be


This is only relevant to people like you who are fat. The rest of us are fine. You should try to stop being fat.


If only you could try being less stupid.


It's not healthy to be fat. You also don't see very many fat elderly people over 75.
Anonymous
Post 04/02/2024 08:17     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lifespans are going down. People are much fatter than they used to be


This is only relevant to people like you who are fat. The rest of us are fine. You should try to stop being fat.


If only you could try being less stupid.
Anonymous
Post 03/30/2024 19:35     Subject: What is a realistic life expectancy assumption. 90, 120, or more?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:US life expectancy is going down. Don't worry about past 90.


Not among the typical DCUM demographic, though. It’s going up if you’re UMC white.


I’d be interested to see a breakdown of life expectancy by social class and race.


http://www.equality-of-opportunity.org/health/#:~:text=Income%20in%20the%20United%20States,are%20growing%20rapidly%20over%20time.



A 1 year gap between men and women in the top 1% versus six years in the bottom 1%. Impressive.