Anonymous
03/19/2024 23:26
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beat the Russians politically and in tech.
According to JFK: "We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." Imagine the United States, but every guy has way higher testosterone. That was literally the case.
You know what’s hard is feeding everybody healthy food let’s do that.
PP. It's available. People won't eat it. My depression-era grandparents were poor as fck and ate healthy food. Same for my impoverished great-grandparents in rural Italy. The food thing is not a money problem; hasn't been for over 100 years.
The so-called food deserts claim about blighted America is unhelpful posturing.
No it’s not. Where can I get fresh fruits and vegetables for free? I’d love to get some this afternoon.
The ground or a tree. Go grow them.
This really makes me crazy, almost everyone has a yard, a roof, a balcony or something to grow at least some vegetables and fruits but no that's too much trouble, everything must come on delivery trucks.
You have a cow on your balcony?
Anonymous
03/19/2024 21:50
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is so depressing. Americans really have lost any sense of exploration and curiosity.
OP, do you like using your cell phone? Do you like knowing when a hurricane is going to hit? Do you like mamograms? How about camera phones? GPS? Tang?
Thank the space program.
Landing on the moon gave us a target through which all sorts or rocket science and space operations developed.
Which of those technologies could have been developed without landing on the moon? (Hint: All of them)
Why do you think there's only one way to show curiosity?
And to the loon who is comparing the space program with European exploration: You look back at that and think "Wow, really worked out great for most of the planet!"?
None, because you wouldn’t have gotten any public support or funding if we had just tried to launch some weather satellites or develop launch vehicles capable of reaching geosynchronous orbit absent a lofty goal.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 20:05
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:This thread is so depressing. Americans really have lost any sense of exploration and curiosity.
OP, do you like using your cell phone? Do you like knowing when a hurricane is going to hit? Do you like mamograms? How about camera phones? GPS? Tang?
Thank the space program.
Landing on the moon gave us a target through which all sorts or rocket science and space operations developed.
Which of those technologies could have been developed without landing on the moon? (Hint: All of them)
Why do you think there's only one way to show curiosity?
And to the loon who is comparing the space program with European exploration: You look back at that and think "Wow, really worked out great for most of the planet!"?
Landing on the moon was somewhat pointless. We already had satellites which would have driven the technologies mentioned. Robotic landers would have been a better choice as far as safety, but less interesting to the general public. It is generally claimed that humans as expert systems were necessary to find the interesting material on the moon. But we sent test pilots, not geologists.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 19:45
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Because we prefer to funnel money to the military industrial complex (the same contractors service NASA and the Pentagon) rather than domestic infrastructure or healthcare or education
Yes, the U.S. needs to retreat from the world stage /s
Anonymous
03/19/2024 19:43
Subject: Re:What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Beating the Russians.
I think many were against it for a variety of reasons. The space program was enormously expensive, and began when the US was legally a racially segregated country, with all that that implied. Many resented tax dollars and effort being used by white men to score points with no clear benefits— while inequalities that were built into this country’s founding and development persisted.
Some of us look longingly at countries with universal healthcare and low cost college tuition— often countries that benefitted from US dollars and expertise post-WWll. Imagine if, instead, the money and minds focused on showing up the Russians had been focused on domestic issues. That said, there have been many technological benefits from the program, but the point seems to have been a dick waving contest between white men — which was better than another war.
Who told you that black people resented the space program?
Anonymous
03/19/2024 19:10
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:This thread is so depressing. Americans really have lost any sense of exploration and curiosity.
OP, do you like using your cell phone? Do you like knowing when a hurricane is going to hit? Do you like mamograms? How about camera phones? GPS? Tang?
Thank the space program.
Landing on the moon gave us a target through which all sorts or rocket science and space operations developed.
Which of those technologies could have been developed without landing on the moon? (Hint: All of them)
Why do you think there's only one way to show curiosity?
And to the loon who is comparing the space program with European exploration: You look back at that and think "Wow, really worked out great for most of the planet!"?
Anonymous
03/19/2024 16:08
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beat the Russians politically and in tech.
According to JFK: "We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." Imagine the United States, but every guy has way higher testosterone. That was literally the case.
You know what’s hard is feeding everybody healthy food let’s do that.
PP. It's available. People won't eat it. My depression-era grandparents were poor as fck and ate healthy food. Same for my impoverished great-grandparents in rural Italy. The food thing is not a money problem; hasn't been for over 100 years.
The so-called food deserts claim about blighted America is unhelpful posturing.
No it’s not. Where can I get fresh fruits and vegetables for free? I’d love to get some this afternoon.
The ground or a tree. Go grow them.
This really makes me crazy, almost everyone has a yard, a roof, a balcony or something to grow at least some vegetables and fruits but no that's too much trouble, everything must come on delivery trucks.
Then they want the food cooked in their mouths.
So sick of you right-wing trolls.
Good food, cooked well, and placed gently into my waiting mouth is a human right! Do Better!!
Anonymous
03/19/2024 16:02
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beat the Russians politically and in tech.
According to JFK: "We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." Imagine the United States, but every guy has way higher testosterone. That was literally the case.
You know what’s hard is feeding everybody healthy food let’s do that.
PP. It's available. People won't eat it. My depression-era grandparents were poor as fck and ate healthy food. Same for my impoverished great-grandparents in rural Italy. The food thing is not a money problem; hasn't been for over 100 years.
The so-called food deserts claim about blighted America is unhelpful posturing.
No it’s not. Where can I get fresh fruits and vegetables for free? I’d love to get some this afternoon.
The ground or a tree. Go grow them.
This really makes me crazy, almost everyone has a yard, a roof, a balcony or something to grow at least some vegetables and fruits but no that's too much trouble, everything must come on delivery trucks.
Then they want the food cooked in their mouths.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 15:58
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:People are so impatient today. We are ironically victims of our own technology I guess.
After Columbus made it to the Americas for the Europeans, It took the first european settlers 100 years later to try to make a go of it in North America and another hundred years to actually establish a colony.
We first made it to the moon just 80 years ago. The effort and technology it spawned spurred so much technological development that we have cell phones, satellites and, ironically, the very internet which you are now using to complain about its futility. Of course there will be more progress and exploration as time goes on.
Here's a list of technology that came from Apollo 11
https://www.theceomagazine.com/business/innovation-technology/nasa-moon-landing-items/
Anonymous
03/19/2024 13:59
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What was the point of going to the moon?
Was anyone against it ?
for some reason the more I learn about it the more I am against it
Scientific exploration in every field is the only reason humans are surviving and thriving better than all other species.
I agree with that. But as far as I can tell, we did little to no "scientific exploration" when we went there. We planted a flag and left...and haven't been back in 50 years.
In retrospect, it does seem like *that* effort was a huge waste of resources. Which isn't to say that we should not conduct space exploration now.
There have been 6 Apollo missions to the moon which have brought back various lunar samples. The chemical composition of these samples led to the theory that the moon was formed when Earth was struck by a planetary body. Also, radiation analysis of core samples show a record of solar activity.
How much of that work required an astronaut to land on the moon first?
Rovers (like the ones used on Mars) were developed later. We did not have that technology at the time. It was an astronaut drilling a core and raking up sand.
But your question is valid. We prioritized sending people instead of developing the technology to not send people.
There was a lot of analysis within the space program and the white house to identify a target that would be spectacular and that we would be able to do first, with near certainty. A space station wasn't a good option, because there was a good chance the Russians would beat us if they wanted to. The basic satellites had already been done.
The moon let us use our head start (thanks to the Germans) for heavy lift rockets to be able to get there first.
It also allowed us to say to the rest of the world, that we come in peace for all mankind.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 13:55
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
This thread is so depressing. Americans really have lost any sense of exploration and curiosity.
OP, do you like using your cell phone? Do you like knowing when a hurricane is going to hit? Do you like mamograms? How about camera phones? GPS? Tang?
Thank the space program.
Landing on the moon gave us a target through which all sorts or rocket science and space operations developed.
OP, do you like using your cell phone? Do you like knowing when a hurricane is going to hit? Do you like mamograms? How about camera phones? GPS? Tang?
Thank the space program.
Landing on the moon gave us a target through which all sorts or rocket science and space operations developed.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 13:29
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:People are so impatient today. We are ironically victims of our own technology I guess.
After Columbus made it to the Americas for the Europeans, It took the first european settlers 100 years later to try to make a go of it in North America and another hundred years to actually establish a colony.
We first made it to the moon just 80 years ago. The effort and technology it spawned spurred so much technological development that we have cell phones, satellites and, ironically, the very internet which you are now using to complain about its futility. Of course there will be more progress and exploration as time goes on.
80 years ago?? 1969 was 55 years ago.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 13:25
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beat the Russians politically and in tech.
According to JFK: "We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." Imagine the United States, but every guy has way higher testosterone. That was literally the case.
You know what’s hard is feeding everybody healthy food let’s do that.
PP. It's available. People won't eat it. My depression-era grandparents were poor as fck and ate healthy food. Same for my impoverished great-grandparents in rural Italy. The food thing is not a money problem; hasn't been for over 100 years.
The so-called food deserts claim about blighted America is unhelpful posturing.
No it’s not. Where can I get fresh fruits and vegetables for free? I’d love to get some this afternoon.
The ground or a tree. Go grow them.
This really makes me crazy, almost everyone has a yard, a roof, a balcony or something to grow at least some vegetables and fruits but no that's too much trouble, everything must come on delivery trucks.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 13:22
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:The space program inspired people in the US and encouraged science minded people in other countries to work in the US. Humans benefit from discovery, not stagnation. Some of you sound like commies saying we would have domestic bliss without the space program.
While all commies are tripping over each other to claim space and its resources.
Anonymous
03/19/2024 13:21
Subject: What was the point of going to the moon?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Beat the Russians politically and in tech.
According to JFK: "We do these things not because they are easy, but because they are hard." Imagine the United States, but every guy has way higher testosterone. That was literally the case.
You know what’s hard is feeding everybody healthy food let’s do that.
PP. It's available. People won't eat it. My depression-era grandparents were poor as fck and ate healthy food. Same for my impoverished great-grandparents in rural Italy. The food thing is not a money problem; hasn't been for over 100 years.
The so-called food deserts claim about blighted America is unhelpful posturing.
One day we might have a bulk of our crops planted on moon or mars.
So that Elon Musk can control our food supply?
Insanity. We have a perfectly adapted greenhouse right here called planet Earth and it is already designed to supply food efficiently.
What's agriculture land with aqueducts today, might be a barren desert tomorrow. Forward thinking helps human survive.