Anonymous
Post 03/18/2024 16:39     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
do we think the RF got in touch with backgrid/ the sun?
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2024 16:27     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:Honestly, I have always given a lot more thought about how in the world Nicole Kidman walked away from her children. I get that Tom Cruise brainwashed them, but had that been me, I would not have stopped at anything to get my children back. She could have raised hell in the legal system and in the press, and she chose not to. That honestly says a lot about her.

Obviously, I think the same about Tom Cruise and Suri, but Katie Holmes probably has a lot of dirt on Tom Cruise - enough to scare him into silence. A terrible father, though, no doubt.


From my understanding, Katie had resources, most importantly, her attorney father, to help her and Suri escape. Nicole was largely on her own against Tom and the Scientologist machine. Maybe getting herself clear was the best Nicole could do and when she tried to get the kids out, also, that was completely shut down.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2024 15:55     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Honestly, I have always given a lot more thought about how in the world Nicole Kidman walked away from her children. I get that Tom Cruise brainwashed them, but had that been me, I would not have stopped at anything to get my children back. She could have raised hell in the legal system and in the press, and she chose not to. That honestly says a lot about her.

Obviously, I think the same about Tom Cruise and Suri, but Katie Holmes probably has a lot of dirt on Tom Cruise - enough to scare him into silence. A terrible father, though, no doubt.
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2024 15:54     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Isn’t Tom a Scientologist nutter??
Anonymous
Post 03/18/2024 15:52     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t think Tom has ASD but he does have that personality type you often see in addicts. Very charismatic but takes things to extremes — often when an addict gets off the booze, they go full in on something like religion, exercise, diet, etc. some people just like living in an extreme version. He seems to be that way with both work and Scientology.

But I think everyone realizes he didn’t abandon Suri— Katie rescued her. And I would bet that the divorce decree traded an iron clad NDA for Katie for her getting 100% control over Suri with very limited access for him. After what he did to Nicole w/r/t the kid, she knew there was no such thing as shared custody. Suri just turned 18, I think, so I’m wondering if/when either she or Katie will speak out about all this. Eventually one or the other will likely say something. It’s always been a little weird to me that Nicole doesn’t say more.


Nicole has never said more so she could leave the door open to have a relationship with her children.


She basically abandoned them though, right? Haven’t the kids spoken out and said something to that effect? I understand her needing to get away from Tom, but I don’t ever think I’ll understand how she just left her kids with him and then created a new family with Keith Urban.


Didn’t Tom serve her with divorce papers? She was blindsided, right?

But what kind of mother would have abandoned her children? Up until they were adults she could have raised holy hell about this - in the courts, in the press - and she did not. Why?

And don’t you think she tried to see the kids but Tom and Scientology forbade it?

That’s my recollection/assumption.


One of the Scientology people who left talked about this in Going Clear. The kids were basically brainwashed against Nicole.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 18:02     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bella has repeated said they have a relationship with Nicole and uses her name everyone once in awhile. Nicole flat out said they have chosen to scientologists and she loves them unconditional. I don't think they're close but do check in everyone in awhile.


I think she says that to avoid scrutiny of the matter and Nicole knows the drill.
She will
Keep her mouth shut and not say anything against the CoS if they agree not to drag her name through the mud in return. She has lost them to the cult and there is nothing she can do but she always tells them the door is open and she wants to be in their lives however they see to make it work.
Plus she knows she can’t fight what she helped introduce them into and there is no point.
Katie wised up and got out early enough before Suri was old enough to have started auditing and she wanted no part of that for her daughter.


I don't think she's lying they have some type of relationship but it's definitely nothing meaningful. I do agree with you that accepted the consequences of getting the kids involved in that cult. They will always see her separately from them. it is what it is.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 17:41     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:I think he's not being held accountable because Katie clearly wanted to get away from him and get Suri away from him. Her dad is a divorce attorney. The news coverage made it seem like a planned escape that was kept secret from Tom.

The dude has had two wives dump him under odd circumstances. I think reporters don't bring it up because it's clear to the public that he's not a good guy. Leaving Katie and Suri alone is probably happier for them.


Only one, Katie. He dumped his first wife for Mimi Rogers to be with Nicole Kidman. He subsequently dumped his second wife, Nicole Kidman to be with Katie Holmes. Katie is the one who dumped him. He also dated Penelope Cruz and ghosted, dumped her. It seems that Holmes is the only one that got the best of him, by dumping him before he could do the dumping.


No he didn’t dump Nicole to be with Katie. Are you batsh#t?[/quote]

No, but perhaps you are. Get a grip.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 17:41     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:Bella has repeated said they have a relationship with Nicole and uses her name everyone once in awhile. Nicole flat out said they have chosen to scientologists and she loves them unconditional. I don't think they're close but do check in everyone in awhile.


I think she says that to avoid scrutiny of the matter and Nicole knows the drill.
She will
Keep her mouth shut and not say anything against the CoS if they agree not to drag her name through the mud in return. She has lost them to the cult and there is nothing she can do but she always tells them the door is open and she wants to be in their lives however they see to make it work.
Plus she knows she can’t fight what she helped introduce them into and there is no point.
Katie wised up and got out early enough before Suri was old enough to have started auditing and she wanted no part of that for her daughter.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 17:34     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:How do you know he abandoned her?

+1
It was prob part of settlement and he didn’t fight it bc he isn’t supposed to have contact with anyone who has contact with an SP
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 17:01     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
How do you know he abandoned her?
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 16:59     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:How is it that Tim Cruise has managed to avoid the stink of being a father that abandoned his child? It doesn’t seem like any other major celebrity could not see their child for a decade, through that kid’s entire childhood, and still do interviews where no one asks about it and do hit movie after movie. No one ever asks him about it and it is just so weird that he walked away from a 5 yr old kid forever.


Couple of reasons:
1–Because Katie Holmes dare not complain about it for (completely founded) concerns of retribution. Scientologists are ruthless when it comes to doxing and making one’s life miserable. She knows full well that it’s better to strike a deal and stay quiet than to have her whole life blow up in her face. He is well connected in Hollywood (bc he’s a rainmaker for people in power…even if they are annoyed by his antics and his “religion”He still pulls audiences to the box office!) but you dont cross Scientology without repercussions. This is known by politicians and journalists alike so no one says a word.
It’s a machine.
2–And Tom is like the number two guy in the organization so he doesn’t even have to get his hands dirty. They would do all the work for him. And they will defend him as though he were a god.
3. The issue of “abandonment” is complicated. In his “religion” he can’t stay “connected” to someone (Suri) who is still “connected to” a “suppressive Person” (Katie)—or this puts his own eternity at risk. He has no option but to sever ties with Scientology OR sever ties with Suri bc she is still connected to Katie. An “SP” is someone who is anti-Scientology and is thought to bring negative influence into your life that prevents you from moving up the bridge to Total Freedom. As a practicing Scientologist, Tom had to either “handle” the potential SP (meaning you bring them back into the fold and convince them they were wrong and need to go into therapy sessions/auditing to figure out what was making them be anti-Scientology and “fix” that engram/trouble spot in their thinking) OR cut off any connection to that person and any of those influences that could be responsible for holding you back. Tom could not “handle” Katie back into Scientology and she refused to give up Suri to him—so that left him with no option but to cut them both out if he is going to remain in Scientology.
If media were to run with that story as a “negative” message against Scientology then they would be accused of “religious bigotry”—and no one wants to touch it.
Plus—they won’t get verification from Katie on it bc her silence on the subject is the price she is paying for his agreement to walk away and allow her to leave in peace.

***allegedly….to all of the above***
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 16:48     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:oh Jesus you people. who honestly cares?

Do you like Tom Cruise movies? Yes, I do.
Do you think Katie Holmes can act? No I really don't.
Do you think Nicole Kidman is amazing? No, her fake us accent grates on my very soul.



OMG finally the one other person on the planet besides me who doesn't think she is the most beautiful, best actress who ever lived. I have never understood the fascination with Nicole Kidman. I do not think she is beautiful, and when I watch her acting the only thing I can think of is "that's Nicole Kidman pretending to be (insert role)."
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 16:44     Subject: Re:Tom Cruise’s free pass
Because the general consensus is Suri is better off without him and Scientology. She doesn't need to be around someone who thinks she's a suppressive person.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 16:39     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Bella has repeated said they have a relationship with Nicole and uses her name everyone once in awhile. Nicole flat out said they have chosen to scientologists and she loves them unconditional. I don't think they're close but do check in everyone in awhile.
Anonymous
Post 03/17/2024 15:57     Subject: Tom Cruise’s free pass
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I think he's not being held accountable because Katie clearly wanted to get away from him and get Suri away from him. Her dad is a divorce attorney. The news coverage made it seem like a planned escape that was kept secret from Tom.

The dude has had two wives dump him under odd circumstances. I think reporters don't bring it up because it's clear to the public that he's not a good guy. Leaving Katie and Suri alone is probably happier for them.


Only one, Katie. He dumped his first wife for Mimi Rogers to be with Nicole Kidman. He subsequently dumped his second wife, Nicole Kidman to be with Katie Holmes. Katie is the one who dumped him. He also dated Penelope Cruz and ghosted, dumped her. It seems that Holmes is the only one that got the best of him, by dumping him before he could do the dumping.


No he didn’t dump Nicole to be with Katie. Are you batsh#t?