Anonymous wrote:What if you have a flight booked - expensive, whole family, summer, Eurioe. What would you do? Cancel? Or still take the flight? It’s not refundable…

^^ it’s the 777-300ER

What if you have a flight booked - expensive, whole family, summer, Eurioe. What would you do? Cancel? Or still take the flight? It’s not refundable…

Anonymous wrote:I'm staying off those 787 Dreamliners.

I have my first Dreamliner flight this weekend. All of my wide body flights have always been on 777, 767 and 747. Interestingly, have never been on an Airbus wide body.

Anonymous wrote:I just checked our spring break plane 737-800. Is that similar to the Max?

No, that’s an earlier, pre-Max version of the 737. Also, not sure if it’s true, but I read somewhere that airlines weren’t going to identify Max planes and would instead just go with 737.

I just checked our spring break plane 737-800. Is that similar to the Max?

Anonymous wrote:I picked a random date in April to fly to LAX. Across all 4 carriers (Alaska, United, Delta, American) and the 8 direct flights, 6 are on Boeing and 2 are on Airbus. I guess that's some choice, but not a lot.

And you could book the Airbus and then they swap it for a Boeing. Happens all the time.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m consciously not flying United now, due to this and their stated DEI hiring policy for pilots and all crews including maintenance.

Other than that, no changes in flight plans.

Sorry the world is too woke for you, snowflake. Glad you’ve created a safe space for yourself from the big, bad anti-racist folks out there. I know it’s hard.

It’s actually not hard at all. United announces new “standards” in pilot hiring. I don’t fly them anymore. What could be simpler?

Hardly. All candidates must still meet the FAA mandated minimums and pass all of the same tests, regardless or race or gender.

Meeting minimum standards and passing a test doesn't mean that you're the most qualified candidate.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m consciously not flying United now, due to this and their stated DEI hiring policy for pilots and all crews including maintenance.

Other than that, no changes in flight plans.

Sorry the world is too woke for you, snowflake. Glad you’ve created a safe space for yourself from the big, bad anti-racist folks out there. I know it’s hard.

It’s actually not hard at all. United announces new “standards” in pilot hiring. I don’t fly them anymore. What could be simpler?

Hardly. All candidates must still meet the FAA mandated minimums and pass all of the same tests, regardless or race or gender.

Yeah but some of them are gonna be black, let's be honest that is PP's real issue.

I picked a random date in April to fly to LAX. Across all 4 carriers (Alaska, United, Delta, American) and the 8 direct flights, 6 are on Boeing and 2 are on Airbus. I guess that's some choice, but not a lot.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m consciously not flying United now, due to this and their stated DEI hiring policy for pilots and all crews including maintenance.

Other than that, no changes in flight plans.

Sorry the world is too woke for you, snowflake. Glad you’ve created a safe space for yourself from the big, bad anti-racist folks out there. I know it’s hard.

It’s actually not hard at all. United announces new “standards” in pilot hiring. I don’t fly them anymore. What could be simpler?

Hardly. All candidates must still meet the FAA mandated minimums and pass all of the same tests, regardless or race or gender.

Within the US, I fly on whatever airline/plane gets me where I'm going.

There's so many other things way more likely to happen than being in a plane crash. And even with the string of recent United freak incidents, the planes all landed safely.

Anonymous wrote:I'm not sure that it's possible to avoid flying Boeing airplanes. For those that think Airbus is going to save you, you should be aware that Boeing and Airbus have a lot of the same subcontractors and suppliers. Maybe Airbus is doing better quality control of its subcontractors and suppliers, but an Airbus plane isn't designed all that differently from a Boeing plane. Moreover, Airbus doesn't even have the capacity to build all the planes that airlines are requesting. The bigger underlying problem is that we have allowed mergers and consolidation to the point where there are no meaningful alternatives.

This is a long winded way of saying that more aggressive antitrust enforcement is warranted so that we don't end up in this situation where there is no real choice.

I generally agree with most of what you post. I will say that the bolded is complex- because of how big the investments are required for commercial planes, it is natural that only a few companies would have the capital necessary to take on the risk in developing/building planes. Airbus only exists because of the concerted effort of the EU governments to create it and finance it. Some place, like the A220, have become too expensive for non-Big 2 companies to develop, so the only option to get them built (and the A220 is considered an excellent plane) is to have one of the Big 2 take them over. Look at how much money Airbus lost on the A380. Every other plane manufacturer would have gone bankrupt from that.

All this is to say that the nature of the business (incredibly high capital investments, huge risk, huge barriers to entry) means it will naturally go towards monopoly/oligopoly. The best option may be to stand up a US equivalent to Airbus to offer more competition- but only the US government would likely be able to do that. And the odds of getting Congressional support for that are lower than a snowball's chance in hell.

Things are so bad United doesn’t even want them anymore: https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/companies/united-ceo-tells-boeing-to-stop-making-its-long-delayed-max-10s/ar-BB1jLmZT

Aircraft can (and do) change at the last minute all the time. Just because you don’t book an aircraft doesn’t mean that it won’t be swapped in. Unless you choose not to fly, it’s pretty difficult to avoid entirely.

I would not fly a Max or a Dreamliner.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13185555/amp/Boeing-whistleblower-warning-josh-barnett.html