Anonymous wrote:This need to rank order colleges must be some visceral need among some sets. I truly do not understand it.

It’s the STEM crowd…they think just because things are ranked with a number next to them, the ranking is automatically accurate & meaningful. When in fact colleges are too complicated & have too many variables to rank with the precision these people want.

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Anonymous wrote:None. Ivy carries prestige that sticks with you for life. "He went to an Ivy League school." People are impressed, forever.

Who are these people? Because I am not impressed one bit. It's not what I value.

Yes you are and yes you do. Why did you click on this post containing the word "Ivies?" You're interested and you care. It carries clout; it's exceedingly difficult to get in and anyone who does is exceptional in some way.

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Anonymous wrote:None. Ivy carries prestige that sticks with you for life. "He went to an Ivy League school." People are impressed, forever.

Nothing impressive about this. What they have done after college is what matters.

Tell yourself this but you know it's impressive. Just look at this board; everyone is obsessed with Ivys. You hear someone's kid is at an Ivy you think, wow. You hear a colleague went to an Ivy you think, hmm, must be smart. It makes an impression and a difference.

This need to rank order colleges must be some visceral need among some sets. I truly do not understand it.

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Anonymous wrote:CMU for engineering, cs, drama and undergrad business

I wouldn't put it above Yale for drama, but I'd prefer it to all of the other Ivies.

Yale drama is graduate only. CMU actually has a ton of successful, famous working actors, writers and producers for stage, screen and TV.

If you google famous CMU grads working in all creative capacities, it is fairly impressive.

Don't need to Google this, lol.

Sorry...other than two or three writers/actors, most of us aren't a repository of CMU grads working in entertainment.

Yale drama is more well-known because in nearly every article about somebody like Paul Giamatti or Sigourney Weaver or another famous actor, they mention they attended Yale drama.

I have never seen it mentioned in an article that Ethan Hawke or Ted Danson went to CMU.

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Anonymous wrote:CMU for engineering, cs, drama and undergrad business

I wouldn't put it above Yale for drama, but I'd prefer it to all of the other Ivies.

Yale drama is graduate only. CMU actually has a ton of successful, famous working actors, writers and producers for stage, screen and TV.

If you google famous CMU grads working in all creative capacities, it is fairly impressive.

Don't need to Google this, lol.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid, or you, are choosing a college based on how impressed other people will be with your child for the rest of their life, you need to take a really hard look at how you've raised your child.

+1 and if your child underdelivers in the workplace and people know where they graduated from, it will go worse for them.

Worst attorney I've ever worked with -- Harvard Law. And this isn't just me not liking them; there was literally at least one court order admonishing themf for their sloppy work. I've given side-eye to HLS grads ever since.

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Anonymous wrote:CMU for engineering, cs, drama and undergrad business

I wouldn't put it above Yale for drama, but I'd prefer it to all of the other Ivies.

Yale drama is graduate only. CMU actually has a ton of successful, famous working actors, writers and producers for stage, screen and TV.

If you google famous CMU grads working in all creative capacities, it is fairly impressive.

Anonymous wrote:CMU for engineering, cs, drama and undergrad business

I wouldn't put it above Yale for drama, but I'd prefer it to all of the other Ivies.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid, or you, are choosing a college based on how impressed other people will be with your child for the rest of their life, you need to take a really hard look at how you've raised your child.

To be fair, most 17-18 year olds can't predict how their college experience is going to be so going to schools with large endowments and high achieving peers isn't a bad strategy. You get good resources and competitive environment.

A large state school is a better strategy if this is what you're worried about.

How is that? I don't have a problem with large state schools...but they aren't the answer to what PP described.

They aren't the asnwer to a student changing majors and needing an just-as-quality program? Ok.

Those with kids attending HS in Upper Caucasia love ❤️ lower Ivies!

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid, or you, are choosing a college based on how impressed other people will be with your child for the rest of their life, you need to take a really hard look at how you've raised your child.

To be fair, most 17-18 year olds can't predict how their college experience is going to be so going to schools with large endowments and high achieving peers isn't a bad strategy. You get good resources and competitive environment.

A large state school is a better strategy if this is what you're worried about.

How is that? I don't have a problem with large state schools...but they aren't the answer to what PP described.

Most people don’t even know that Brown is in the Ivy League.

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Anonymous wrote:Some of the SLACs.

Is that a joke? I hope so.

If we are talking about undergraduate education, then nearly all of the LACs are better than the Ivies.

I don't think I would say that for e.g. Princeton, but since the 1970s, Harvard as an institution hasn't particularly cared whether its undergraduates actually learned anything from their classes, preferring to just skate by on its old rep and a very selective admissions process.

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Anonymous wrote:If your kid, or you, are choosing a college based on how impressed other people will be with your child for the rest of their life, you need to take a really hard look at how you've raised your child.

To be fair, most 17-18 year olds can't predict how their college experience is going to be so going to schools with large endowments and high achieving peers isn't a bad strategy. You get good resources and competitive environment.

A large state school is a better strategy if this is what you're worried about.