Anonymous
03/28/2024 22:11
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Geeds love to publicize these isolated and extreme cases, but 99% of what people call hazing in frats is just good natured fun designed to break down walls and bring the pledge class together. Scavenger hunts, harmless pranks, and the like. You'll probably be subjected to a bit of embarrassment during pledgeship, but honestly, if you can't laugh at yourself, you probably don't belong in a frat.
No I am sorry you are wrong! Jane you been reading the news this year alone?! Countless stories. These are not isolated incidents. Many many incidents mostly fraternities and male sports teams. These accounts are real. Just this week multiple new incidents. Torture? Burned with cigarettes? Not one college. Across the country. I just can’t believe it.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 21:20
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Geeds love to publicize these isolated and extreme cases, but 99% of what people call hazing in frats is just good natured fun designed to break down walls and bring the pledge class together. Scavenger hunts, harmless pranks, and the like. You'll probably be subjected to a bit of embarrassment during pledgeship, but honestly, if you can't laugh at yourself, you probably don't belong in a frat.
While I agree that a lot is just "good natured fun", it is not 99%. There is far too much hazing in the greek system (and sports). Kids are harmed, kids are dying. It's stupid and really needs to stop. Kids are not able to stop it themselves, as those going thru it obviously feel the need to be accepted in a "top organization" so much that they are willing to put themselves thru this stupid shit
Anonymous
03/28/2024 20:32
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are painting the entire system with a broad brush. No I was not hazed in my sorority 30 years ago and my DD was not hazed in her sorority of which she is still a part of.
My DS was not hazed in any real way other then being asked to memorize facts or the words to a song or clean the house. He is not a typical “frat boy” and straight up said going into pledging that he’d drop the minute he was asked to do something he wasn’t ok with. He stayed in. Everyone knows which houses haze and which do not. Your kid just has to be aware. My DS had a great pledging experience. His friend at another chapter dropped after very inappropriate hazing at a “more popular” chapter.
So yes you can find houses that haze but the vast majority of sororities do not, especially nationally recognizes ones, and some frats actually really do take their anti hazing commitment to heart.
You can’t paint the whole system with this broad brush. The offenders need to be punished yes but some are just fine places to
Be and enjoy the best of Greek life.
Relax. I was also in a sorority and I didn’t experience hazing. we’re talking about fraternities and I think you should know that. Fraternities and some of the sports teams even this year we’re having rampant violent violent disgusting acts of hazing. Wake up
+1
This social construct is for the weak followers. Parents need to stop thinking that they are buying their way into high society - they are not. This is not 1850 USA. Just stop the madness. For real.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 20:29
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Geeds love to publicize these isolated and extreme cases, but 99% of what people call hazing in frats is just good natured fun designed to break down walls and bring the pledge class together. Scavenger hunts, harmless pranks, and the like. You'll probably be subjected to a bit of embarrassment during pledgeship, but honestly, if you can't laugh at yourself, you probably don't belong in a frat.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 19:30
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Is this for real!?
UVA has had multiple issues too with fraternities. Why are parents not publicly raising hell about this?
It is crazy. Hazing concerns have come up a few times in the parent facebook group of my dc's school but then immediately another parent will pipe up and say not to talk about it because they are only putting their ds at risk. It is bizarre.
Parents put up with it the same reasons the kids do - social acceptance and future connections.
So disturbing.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 19:15
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Wow! Not OK. If anyone does that to my son, they better watch their backs for the next several decades. Don't care who they become or who their parents are.
Legal action needs to happen against perpetrators - beyond school criminal acts
Anonymous
03/28/2024 19:05
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Is this for real!?
UVA has had multiple issues too with fraternities. Why are parents not publicly raising hell about this?
It is crazy. Hazing concerns have come up a few times in the parent facebook group of my dc's school but then immediately another parent will pipe up and say not to talk about it because they are only putting their ds at risk. It is bizarre.
Parents put up with it the same reasons the kids do - social acceptance and future connections.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 19:01
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Wow! Not OK. If anyone does that to my son, they better watch their backs for the next several decades. Don't care who they become or who their parents are.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 18:49
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Is this for real!?
UVA has had multiple issues too with fraternities. Why are parents not publicly raising hell about this?
Anonymous
03/28/2024 18:43
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Personal experience - hazing is alive and well at. Michigan.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 18:02
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Michigan fraternities:
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Hospitalizations buried this winter.
Including sexual abuse, torture (involving rear and inanimate objects) and extreme cold conditions while intoxicated - chugging entire bottles of vodka and dropping kids 10 miles from campus with no cell phone or money and requiring them to make their way back. Several hospitalized in January.
Michigan tolerates it openly.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 17:35
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are painting the entire system with a broad brush. No I was not hazed in my sorority 30 years ago and my DD was not hazed in her sorority of which she is still a part of.
My DS was not hazed in any real way other then being asked to memorize facts or the words to a song or clean the house. He is not a typical “frat boy” and straight up said going into pledging that he’d drop the minute he was asked to do something he wasn’t ok with. He stayed in. Everyone knows which houses haze and which do not. Your kid just has to be aware. My DS had a great pledging experience. His friend at another chapter dropped after very inappropriate hazing at a “more popular” chapter.
So yes you can find houses that haze but the vast majority of sororities do not, especially nationally recognizes ones, and some frats actually really do take their anti hazing commitment to heart.
You can’t paint the whole system with this broad brush. The offenders need to be punished yes but some are just fine places to
Be and enjoy the best of Greek life.
Relax. I was also in a sorority and I didn’t experience hazing. we’re talking about fraternities and I think you should know that. Fraternities and some of the sports teams even this year we’re having rampant violent violent disgusting acts of hazing. Wake up
why are you telling me to wake up? Yes I know sport teams, clubs and frats that do haze. I am not disagreeing with you, I'm saying to those who say the entire system is awful or the person who tells me that I should not believe what my own kid tells me... there are alot of people out there having a perfectly fine existence and their are many tho that absolutely need to be punished.
Anonymous
03/28/2024 17:28
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You all are painting the entire system with a broad brush. No I was not hazed in my sorority 30 years ago and my DD was not hazed in her sorority of which she is still a part of.
My DS was not hazed in any real way other then being asked to memorize facts or the words to a song or clean the house. He is not a typical “frat boy” and straight up said going into pledging that he’d drop the minute he was asked to do something he wasn’t ok with. He stayed in. Everyone knows which houses haze and which do not. Your kid just has to be aware. My DS had a great pledging experience. His friend at another chapter dropped after very inappropriate hazing at a “more popular” chapter.
So yes you can find houses that haze but the vast majority of sororities do not, especially nationally recognizes ones, and some frats actually really do take their anti hazing commitment to heart.
You can’t paint the whole system with this broad brush. The offenders need to be punished yes but some are just fine places to
Be and enjoy the best of Greek life.
Relax. I was also in a sorority and I didn’t experience hazing. we’re talking about fraternities and I think you should know that. Fraternities and some of the sports teams even this year we’re having rampant violent violent disgusting acts of hazing. Wake up
+1
Anonymous
03/28/2024 17:21
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
Anonymous wrote:You all are painting the entire system with a broad brush. No I was not hazed in my sorority 30 years ago and my DD was not hazed in her sorority of which she is still a part of.
My DS was not hazed in any real way other then being asked to memorize facts or the words to a song or clean the house. He is not a typical “frat boy” and straight up said going into pledging that he’d drop the minute he was asked to do something he wasn’t ok with. He stayed in. Everyone knows which houses haze and which do not. Your kid just has to be aware. My DS had a great pledging experience. His friend at another chapter dropped after very inappropriate hazing at a “more popular” chapter.
So yes you can find houses that haze but the vast majority of sororities do not, especially nationally recognizes ones, and some frats actually really do take their anti hazing commitment to heart.
You can’t paint the whole system with this broad brush. The offenders need to be punished yes but some are just fine places to
Be and enjoy the best of Greek life.
Relax. I was also in a sorority and I didn’t experience hazing. we’re talking about fraternities and I think you should know that. Fraternities and some of the sports teams even this year we’re having rampant violent violent disgusting acts of hazing. Wake up
Anonymous
03/28/2024 16:12
Subject: Hazing at U-M Frats
You all are painting the entire system with a broad brush. No I was not hazed in my sorority 30 years ago and my DD was not hazed in her sorority of which she is still a part of.
My DS was not hazed in any real way other then being asked to memorize facts or the words to a song or clean the house. He is not a typical “frat boy” and straight up said going into pledging that he’d drop the minute he was asked to do something he wasn’t ok with. He stayed in. Everyone knows which houses haze and which do not. Your kid just has to be aware. My DS had a great pledging experience. His friend at another chapter dropped after very inappropriate hazing at a “more popular” chapter.
So yes you can find houses that haze but the vast majority of sororities do not, especially nationally recognizes ones, and some frats actually really do take their anti hazing commitment to heart.
You can’t paint the whole system with this broad brush. The offenders need to be punished yes but some are just fine places to
Be and enjoy the best of Greek life.
My DS was not hazed in any real way other then being asked to memorize facts or the words to a song or clean the house. He is not a typical “frat boy” and straight up said going into pledging that he’d drop the minute he was asked to do something he wasn’t ok with. He stayed in. Everyone knows which houses haze and which do not. Your kid just has to be aware. My DS had a great pledging experience. His friend at another chapter dropped after very inappropriate hazing at a “more popular” chapter.
So yes you can find houses that haze but the vast majority of sororities do not, especially nationally recognizes ones, and some frats actually really do take their anti hazing commitment to heart.
You can’t paint the whole system with this broad brush. The offenders need to be punished yes but some are just fine places to
Be and enjoy the best of Greek life.