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Anonymous wrote:I was a radical feminist, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, TERF, all of it, until I became pregnant. Procreation and the cost of creating life to women is the reason men and women will never be equal.

I’m no longer feminist, I’m a realist.

So, you think gendered norms are okay, that it's okay to pay women less for equal work, that women must stay home with the kids, can be fired for being pregnant, must take her husband's last name and can be denied body autonomy? Wow.

Gendered norms exist for a simple reason, they are axiomatic to life because life is created and birthed by the female species. Every single thing regarding gender relations bows to this single fact.

Lol! You don't know the difference between biology and sociology. Having the capacity to gestate has nothing to do with gendered norms. If it did, post menopausal women and women without uteri would be treated differently than the fecund.

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Anonymous wrote:I was a radical feminist, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, TERF, all of it, until I became pregnant. Procreation and the cost of creating life to women is the reason men and women will never be equal.

I’m no longer feminist, I’m a realist.

So, you think gendered norms are okay, that it's okay to pay women less for equal work, that women must stay home with the kids, can be fired for being pregnant, must take her husband's last name and can be denied body autonomy? Wow.

Gendered norms exist for a simple reason, they are axiomatic to life because life is created and birthed by the female species. Every single thing regarding gender relations bows to this single fact.

Can we be friends irl? I’m so exhausted of being expected to be a smaller less hairy man.

Anonymous wrote:I was a radical feminist, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, TERF, all of it, until I became pregnant. Procreation and the cost of creating life to women is the reason men and women will never be equal.

I’m no longer feminist, I’m a realist.

^ precisely.

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Anonymous wrote:I was a radical feminist, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, TERF, all of it, until I became pregnant. Procreation and the cost of creating life to women is the reason men and women will never be equal.

I’m no longer feminist, I’m a realist.

So, you think gendered norms are okay, that it's okay to pay women less for equal work, that women must stay home with the kids, can be fired for being pregnant, must take her husband's last name and can be denied body autonomy? Wow.

Gendered norms exist for a simple reason, they are axiomatic to life because life is created and birthed by the female species. Every single thing regarding gender relations bows to this single fact.

Anonymous wrote:I was a radical feminist, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, TERF, all of it, until I became pregnant. Procreation and the cost of creating life to women is the reason men and women will never be equal.

I’m no longer feminist, I’m a realist.

So, you think gendered norms are okay, that it's okay to pay women less for equal work, that women must stay home with the kids, can be fired for being pregnant, must take her husband's last name and can be denied body autonomy? Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband would never call himself a feminist nor would I date any man who did. He lets me be me and is not controlling. We both work and split household and childcare equally. It works for us.

What the problem with being a 'feminist'?

Misogyny- women want to distance themselves from the strident “femi-nazi” who might be fat, hairy and have political opinions. They prefer a less direct, soft and pretty approach, straddling the feminist fence, doing none of the work and having it both ways.

There are plenty of ways to be a feminist in between these two extremes.

Most women are selective feminists and it sets back the sisterhood.

Or they are making decisions they want to make.

Yes, intersectional feminism be damned.

True feminist wouldn't fall for marriage, household duties and kids.

Anonymous wrote:I thought everyone was a feminist, except conservative religious people.

No, they are not. Go look at the 'walking date' and 'engagement ring' threads. My own family (from Indiana are not conservatives but still hold many beliefs that are gendered norms. They haven't really looked at it through the lens of feminism. They are what I would call 'traditionalists'.

I knew the term "feminist" was dead when I read a thread here telling everyone who enjoys wearing makeup, doing their hair, etc that they were only doing it because of internal misogyny because women don't actually like doing those things. Once we start telling women that their choices on how to live their lives are wrong, we've lost the whole plot of feminism.

Anonymous wrote:I was a radical feminist, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, TERF, all of it, until I became pregnant. Procreation and the cost of creating life to women is the reason men and women will never be equal.

I’m no longer feminist, I’m a realist.

I prefer the term “pragmatic feminist.”

I was a radical feminist, Andrea Dworkin, Simone de Beauvoir, TERF, all of it, until I became pregnant. Procreation and the cost of creating life to women is the reason men and women will never be equal.

I’m no longer feminist, I’m a realist.

Anonymous wrote:If you are a happily married feminist, and your spouse is a man, what is your husband like? Are there traits or green flags that men can exhibit that would suggest that they would romantically pair well with a feminist?

Yes, don’t slut-shame or inquire about body count, call older women “hags” or comment negatively on body size. Be gracious in your description of ex-girlfriends/wives.

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Anonymous wrote:My husband would never call himself a feminist nor would I date any man who did. He lets me be me and is not controlling. We both work and split household and childcare equally. It works for us.

What the problem with being a 'feminist'?

Misogyny- women want to distance themselves from the strident “femi-nazi” who might be fat, hairy and have political opinions. They prefer a less direct, soft and pretty approach, straddling the feminist fence, doing none of the work and having it both ways.

There are plenty of ways to be a feminist in between these two extremes.

Most women are selective feminists and it sets back the sisterhood.

Or they are making decisions they want to make.

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Anonymous wrote:I got told by my 23 year old coworker that I wasn't a feminist because I... 1. Took DH's last name and 2. Decided to stay at home for 2 years after DS was born.

I told her that I made those decisions because that's what I wanted to do she told me I made them because of deep rooted misogyny. At this point, I realized there was no point in discussing this with her. If feminism has warped into something like her views, we have problems.

Good grief. Now “feminism” means to totally deny the toll hatching another human being out of a small orifice takes . . . It’s nothing. We’re all the same. Not.

Have you no critical thinking skills? Have you never heard espouse a view contrary to what they claim they are? Have you not heard Christians who believe life believes at conception and, therefore, oppose the Alabama Supreme Court decision on IVF embryos? Have you not heard of the 'patriots' who participated in an insurrection?

When you encounter people like this, you state the facts and point out the hypocrisy. In the case of the 23 yo, I use it as an opportunity to educate her, the callow youth.

I thought everyone was a feminist, except conservative religious people.