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Anonymous wrote:I am very confused why so many people are in her corner when the White House affair was NOT the first time she was the other woman.

She is savvy, that one.

Agree! It was a setup from the beginning. Who saves a dress with semen on it? No Both parties were wrong in the affair but she’s the one who profits from it. And what great work has she done?

Oh come on! Like YOU send your clothes to the dry cleaner every time there is an unexpected ricochet & you get a little on a garment?

Anonymous wrote:Monica Lewinsky and Candace Cameron are two women that look so much better now than when they were younger.

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that she was under 25 with both of these affairs really does excuse her from most of the blame

The married men were at fault. They took advantage

Agree, combined with the fact that one was a teacher and the other was both the president and her boss. Severe power imbalance. Even if she was the "aggressor" as some of you say, what does that mean in that situation?

She had huge daddy issues and mental health issues. She sought out older, powerful men who she believed could fill that role, and she used what she had (knowing that some of these men would go for a young woman with big boobs who acted a certain way) to tray and get them. She was severely misguided in this and obviously she's grown a lot as a person and is no longer looking for a father figure to replace the one she didn't have as a child. It's not uncommon for it to take until someone's 30s or 40s to work through deep childhood wounds like that. In doing so, she has to contend with WHY she went for these men, and that is where her accountability is -- it lies in unraveling the childhood issues that made this something she did at that age.

The men involved have no such explanation for their behavior. They were much older, in positions of authority over her, and unlike Monica, had made commitments to the people that their relationships with her violated. THEY are responsible for that, not her. She was a confused young woman working through childhood trauma in a self-destructive way. They were full grown married adults in positions of power and authority. I give none of the blame for the cheating (she did not cheat) and none of the blame for the inappropriateness of the relationships in terms of power.

She is accountable for the self-destructive nature of pursuing these relationships and how it reflects on her mental health. She's not responsible for their impact on marriages or workplaces or political structures -- unlike the men involved, she never had any power in those arenas anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:She looks fantastic…but she’s had significant plastic surgery over the years. Google it.

If true, that was some good plastic surgery.

Anonymous wrote:I clicked wanting to happy for her. But that is a lot of plastic surgery. If you didn’t tell me it was her, I would not have recognized her.

I guess I should have grace for her, bc maybe the surgery is from self-rejection.

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Anonymous wrote:She looks terrific!

But it’s interesting how she turned her victimhood into a career.

As a feminist, I recognized the power differential in the affair/scandal…but I saw her as a woman who made a choice, not a victim. Her name was dragged through the mud because of it, so she was a victim of bullying…but not sexual harassment in the traditional sense.

I don’t think she really wanted a husband and white picket fence. If she did, she could have gone that route (after all, she’s rich and beautiful). I think she has the life she wanted.

I wonder if the very public ad campaign was her final screw you to the Clintons? I mean, she looks gorgeous and is garnering positive attention.

Sure "feminist". Like you would not consider her a victim if sex predator Bill (several well documented instances) was a Republican. You would in 2 seconds and you know it. Your hypocrisy says it all.

I’m a Dem, fwiw.

But I’m also an older Gen X woman who doesn’t think infantilizing women or not acknowledging their actions and choices is particularly feminist.

Monica wasn’t a child.

Most women—even young women—at that time had sufficient agency to avoid a situation that made them uncomfortable.

Im not condoning what he did, but I also don’t believe she was an unwilling party.

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Anonymous wrote:I've always been so impressed by how she turned this horrible situation around into anti-bullying, anti-harassment awareness and has had such a great combo of humor and humility in all of her press appearances. Love her.

+100, I find it so inspiring. When I have gone through some very hard times in my life that involved other people treating me extremely disrespectfully and unkindly, I will sometimes think of her and how she has retained her sense of self worth through everything that happened and it helps me persevere. She was manipulated and abused by the president and then manipulated and used by the people who wanted to destroy him. And she is the one who comes out of it looking good while almost everyone else involved looks craven and bad.

I consider her a role model, which is amazing when I think about being 12/13 years old when the whole scandal came out and the things I heard the adults around me saying about her. She proved them all wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:I've always been so impressed by how she turned this horrible situation around into anti-bullying, anti-harassment awareness and has had such a great combo of humor and humility in all of her press appearances. Love her.

I really agree. I think she's become a fantastic public figure. And I really like this campaign. (Though I can't actually imagine wearing Reformation clothes.)

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that she was under 25 with both of these affairs really does excuse her from most of the blame

The married men were at fault. They took advantage

Agree, combined with the fact that one was a teacher and the other was both the president and her boss. Severe power imbalance. Even if she was the "aggressor" as some of you say, what does that mean in that situation?

She had huge daddy issues and mental health issues. She sought out older, powerful men who she believed could fill that role, and she used what she had (knowing that some of these men would go for a young woman with big boobs who acted a certain way) to tray and get them. She was severely misguided in this and obviously she's grown a lot as a person and is no longer looking for a father figure to replace the one she didn't have as a child. It's not uncommon for it to take until someone's 30s or 40s to work through deep childhood wounds like that. In doing so, she has to contend with WHY she went for these men, and that is where her accountability is -- it lies in unraveling the childhood issues that made this something she did at that age.

The men involved have no such explanation for their behavior. They were much older, in positions of authority over her, and unlike Monica, had made commitments to the people that their relationships with her violated. THEY are responsible for that, not her. She was a confused young woman working through childhood trauma in a self-destructive way. They were full grown married adults in positions of power and authority. I give none of the blame for the cheating (she did not cheat) and none of the blame for the inappropriateness of the relationships in terms of power.

She is accountable for the self-destructive nature of pursuing these relationships and how it reflects on her mental health. She's not responsible for their impact on marriages or workplaces or political structures -- unlike the men involved, she never had any power in those arenas anyway.

Anonymous wrote:The fact that she was under 25 with both of these affairs really does excuse her from most of the blame

The married men were at fault. They took advantage

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Anonymous wrote:She looks terrific!

But it’s interesting how she turned her victimhood into a career.

As a feminist, I recognized the power differential in the affair/scandal…but I saw her as a woman who made a choice, not a victim. Her name was dragged through the mud because of it, so she was a victim of bullying…but not sexual harassment in the traditional sense.

I don’t think she really wanted a husband and white picket fence. If she did, she could have gone that route (after all, she’s rich and beautiful). I think she has the life she wanted.

I wonder if the very public ad campaign was her final screw you to the Clintons? I mean, she looks gorgeous and is garnering positive attention.

Sure "feminist". Like you would not consider her a victim if sex predator Bill (several well documented instances) was a Republican. You would in 2 seconds and you know it. Your hypocrisy says it all.

I’m a Dem, fwiw.

But I’m also an older Gen X woman who doesn’t think infantilizing women or not acknowledging their actions and choices is particularly feminist.

Monica wasn’t a child.

Most women—even young women—at that time had sufficient agency to avoid a situation that made them uncomfortable.

Im not condoning what he did, but I also don’t believe she was an unwilling party.

She was a young intern of VASTLY disproportionate power and experience.
It is likely she also did not know of Bill's previous incidents with other women.
Many young women are " willing parties" of abuse.
Its still abuse.

The affair partner she had previously, her teacher, had a wife who was absolutely devastated by the affair. That woman was abused. That woman was victimized. Monica was the co-conspirator. The wife wasn't some savvy political opportunist, like some might say about Hillary. She was a regular person who loved her husband. Monica did not care about her. And then she went on to do this with another married man. You don't want to blame her for all of this repugnant behavior? Cool, I guess. But then to take it further, and cry abuse? Give me a break.

Anonymous wrote:She definitely had a nose job and looks to be on Ozempic.