Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 10:02     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ you are just wrong. Without access to legal, safe, abortion care, women die.

It was the doctors who first pushed for abortion to become legal because they saw so many hemorrhaging women end up dead. Women in emergency rooms from back alley abortions.

Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. It's just a matter of how many more women will end up dead


The abortion rate is about 10 or less per 1000 women. I'm sorry, but an issue that impacts less than 1% of women is simply not a high priority for me.

Do I think you should have accessible abortion, sure. But they single issue is so far down on the list in terms of importance because of how few people it impacts. It's be like getting hyped over a single issue if a candidate had a questionable plan for replacing laws for making things wheel chair accessible yet had great anti-crime and economic ideas. Sure, I think you should make things wheel chair accessible, but if you relaxed those laws, I probably wouldn't care since it impacts so few people while crime and economic policy impacts millions of people everyday.

Sorry, abortion just isn't anywhere near as important as taxation, the economy, jobs, crime, and school quality.

I really don't care about Hogan's stance on abortion at all. All of these side issues are minor compared to bigger picture stuff. Issues like abortion are tiresome topics designed to divide people and trick candidates into gotcha games. I care 100000000x more about the economy.


^^^PP has never talked to a woman.


Exactly.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 10:00     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:^^ you are just wrong. Without access to legal, safe, abortion care, women die.

It was the doctors who first pushed for abortion to become legal because they saw so many hemorrhaging women end up dead. Women in emergency rooms from back alley abortions.

Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. It's just a matter of how many more women will end up dead


PP DGAF about women. Selfish prick.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 09:16     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


It doesn't matter what he says, even if he's telling the truth. He is running in a Party whose platform is committed not only to banning abortion nationally, but also to lying about it up until the minute they do.

Yup.

“Behind the scenes, specific anti-abortion plans being proposed by Mr. Trump’s allies are sweeping and legally sophisticated. Some of their proposals would rely on enforcing the Comstock Act, a long-dormant law from 1873, to criminalize the shipping of any materials used in an abortion — including abortion pills, which account for the majority of abortions in America.

“We don’t need a federal ban when we have Comstock on the books,” said Jonathan F. Mitchell, the legal force behind a 2021 Texas law that found a way to effectively ban abortion in the state before Roe v. Wade was overturned. “There’s a smorgasbord of options.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/17/us/politics/trump-allies-abortion-restrictions.html
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 09:10     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:Don’t care. Abortion is probably item #36 in terms of importance on my list.

Can’t believe people care about it more than crime, taxes, schools, roads, jobs, etc…….you know, the stuff that impacts far more people’s lives than abortion.

Hogan isn’t running for governor.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 09:05     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ you are just wrong. Without access to legal, safe, abortion care, women die.

It was the doctors who first pushed for abortion to become legal because they saw so many hemorrhaging women end up dead. Women in emergency rooms from back alley abortions.

Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. It's just a matter of how many more women will end up dead


The abortion rate is about 10 or less per 1000 women. I'm sorry, but an issue that impacts less than 1% of women is simply not a high priority for me.

Do I think you should have accessible abortion, sure. But they single issue is so far down on the list in terms of importance because of how few people it impacts. It's be like getting hyped over a single issue if a candidate had a questionable plan for replacing laws for making things wheel chair accessible yet had great anti-crime and economic ideas. Sure, I think you should make things wheel chair accessible, but if you relaxed those laws, I probably wouldn't care since it impacts so few people while crime and economic policy impacts millions of people everyday.

Sorry, abortion just isn't anywhere near as important as taxation, the economy, jobs, crime, and school quality.

I really don't care about Hogan's stance on abortion at all. All of these side issues are minor compared to bigger picture stuff. Issues like abortion are tiresome topics designed to divide people and trick candidates into gotcha games. I care 100000000x more about the economy.


^^^PP has never talked to a woman.


Sorry, we use tangible things like statistics:

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/state-indicator/abortion-rate/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D

Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:49     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ you are just wrong. Without access to legal, safe, abortion care, women die.

It was the doctors who first pushed for abortion to become legal because they saw so many hemorrhaging women end up dead. Women in emergency rooms from back alley abortions.

Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. It's just a matter of how many more women will end up dead


The abortion rate is about 10 or less per 1000 women. I'm sorry, but an issue that impacts less than 1% of women is simply not a high priority for me.

Do I think you should have accessible abortion, sure. But they single issue is so far down on the list in terms of importance because of how few people it impacts. It's be like getting hyped over a single issue if a candidate had a questionable plan for replacing laws for making things wheel chair accessible yet had great anti-crime and economic ideas. Sure, I think you should make things wheel chair accessible, but if you relaxed those laws, I probably wouldn't care since it impacts so few people while crime and economic policy impacts millions of people everyday.

Sorry, abortion just isn't anywhere near as important as taxation, the economy, jobs, crime, and school quality.

I really don't care about Hogan's stance on abortion at all. All of these side issues are minor compared to bigger picture stuff. Issues like abortion are tiresome topics designed to divide people and trick candidates into gotcha games. I care 100000000x more about the economy.


^^^PP has never talked to a woman.


Sorry, we use tangible things like statistics:

https://www.kff.org/womens-health-policy/state-indicator/abortion-rate/?currentTimeframe=0&sortModel=%7B%22colId%22:%22Location%22,%22sort%22:%22asc%22%7D
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:39     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


No, it is not just a medical issue, it is a values and morality issue regarding what counts as life worth protecting.


Then you should focus on creating a society where (1) people with unplanned pregnancies have the resources they need to continue the pregnancy, have the baby, and raise the child (2) people have the education and resources they need to help prevent unplanned pregnancies.

Unless the values and morality you're talking about are the values and morality of controlling women's bodies and lives, instead of allowing women to make their own decisions? Which they might be.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:35     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.


It used to be that 43% of abortions happened in the first 6 weeks (i.e., within 2 weeks of the first missed period), when the conceptus is an embryo, not a fetus. So no, that's not a fact.

But as the PP said - you get to make the decisions about your uterus, other people get to make the decisions about their uteruses.



Like I can make decisions about my child and other people make decisions about their child?


No, a child is not a body part.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:34     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^^ you are just wrong. Without access to legal, safe, abortion care, women die.

It was the doctors who first pushed for abortion to become legal because they saw so many hemorrhaging women end up dead. Women in emergency rooms from back alley abortions.

Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. It's just a matter of how many more women will end up dead


The abortion rate is about 10 or less per 1000 women. I'm sorry, but an issue that impacts less than 1% of women is simply not a high priority for me.

Do I think you should have accessible abortion, sure. But they single issue is so far down on the list in terms of importance because of how few people it impacts. It's be like getting hyped over a single issue if a candidate had a questionable plan for replacing laws for making things wheel chair accessible yet had great anti-crime and economic ideas. Sure, I think you should make things wheel chair accessible, but if you relaxed those laws, I probably wouldn't care since it impacts so few people while crime and economic policy impacts millions of people everyday.

Sorry, abortion just isn't anywhere near as important as taxation, the economy, jobs, crime, and school quality.

I really don't care about Hogan's stance on abortion at all. All of these side issues are minor compared to bigger picture stuff. Issues like abortion are tiresome topics designed to divide people and trick candidates into gotcha games. I care 100000000x more about the economy.


^^^PP has never talked to a woman.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:20     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:^^ you are just wrong. Without access to legal, safe, abortion care, women die.

It was the doctors who first pushed for abortion to become legal because they saw so many hemorrhaging women end up dead. Women in emergency rooms from back alley abortions.

Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. It's just a matter of how many more women will end up dead


The abortion rate is about 10 or less per 1000 women. I'm sorry, but an issue that impacts less than 1% of women is simply not a high priority for me.

Do I think you should have accessible abortion, sure. But they single issue is so far down on the list in terms of importance because of how few people it impacts. It's be like getting hyped over a single issue if a candidate had a questionable plan for replacing laws for making things wheel chair accessible yet had great anti-crime and economic ideas. Sure, I think you should make things wheel chair accessible, but if you relaxed those laws, I probably wouldn't care since it impacts so few people while crime and economic policy impacts millions of people everyday.

Sorry, abortion just isn't anywhere near as important as taxation, the economy, jobs, crime, and school quality.

I really don't care about Hogan's stance on abortion at all. All of these side issues are minor compared to bigger picture stuff. Issues like abortion are tiresome topics designed to divide people and trick candidates into gotcha games. I care 100000000x more about the economy.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:03     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


Except that 90% of the time it is not a medical issue. It’s a personal preference issue


Either way, if it isn't your womb, it isn't your business.


It’s society’s business to protect the weakest and most vulnerable among us.


Which isn't an unviable fetus. Meanwhile, the GOP is all about pushing wealth to the 1% and shunning the poor and needy, so you can STFU with your noise.


We’re not talking about unviable fetuses. We’re talking about the fact that 90+% of abortions are perfectly on fetuses that are completely viable.


It used to be that 43% of abortions happened in the first 6 weeks (i.e., within 2 weeks of the first missed period), when the conceptus is an embryo, not a fetus. So no, that's not a fact.

But as the PP said - you get to make the decisions about your uterus, other people get to make the decisions about their uteruses.



Like I can make decisions about my child and other people make decisions about their child?
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:02     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Narrator:

He will vote for a national abortion ban. He is very much pro-life and has been always.


This. He absolutely will vote for a national abortion ban. This man is the Susan Collins of the South.


I’m fine with a ban at 16 weeks. That’s a reasonable compromise.


This is not a both-sides issue to compromise with Republican politicians on. Is Larry Hogan my gynecologist? No? He and all the other Republicans can STFO. It’s a medical issue, not a political issue. End of story.


No, it is not just a medical issue, it is a values and morality issue regarding what counts as life worth protecting.
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 08:00     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

^^ you are just wrong. Without access to legal, safe, abortion care, women die.

It was the doctors who first pushed for abortion to become legal because they saw so many hemorrhaging women end up dead. Women in emergency rooms from back alley abortions.

Abortions will happen whether they are legal or not. It's just a matter of how many more women will end up dead
Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 07:56     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Anonymous wrote:Don’t care. Abortion is probably item #36 in terms of importance on my list.

Can’t believe people care about it more than crime, taxes, schools, roads, jobs, etc…….you know, the stuff that impacts far more people’s lives than abortion.


Anonymous
Post 02/21/2024 00:19     Subject: Larry Hogan and abortion

Don’t care. Abortion is probably item #36 in terms of importance on my list.

Can’t believe people care about it more than crime, taxes, schools, roads, jobs, etc…….you know, the stuff that impacts far more people’s lives than abortion.