Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:42
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
You did so, hopefully, knowing where the Church stands on IVF, right?
The Church was totally cool with child molestation for a couple centuries until the Boston Globe spilled the beans. The Church still tries to weasel out of compensation for victims.
Are you really telling me that the Church's views on IVF matter? Come back to reality.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:40
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
You did so, hopefully, knowing where the Church stands on IVF, right?
If you have a direct message from the lord, I would listen to it. Eventually, the Catholic church will evolve on this issue. They move at a glacial place but they will come around.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:33
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
You did so, hopefully, knowing where the Church stands on IVF, right?
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:31
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
So you also touch kids?
That is uncalled for and does not help your argument.
My point is that maybe you should reconsider whether looking to such a fallible institution that has clearly been under the sway of corruptible men for centuries when trying to how a government should be run for both Catholic and non-Catholic citizens.
Not great judgment on your part.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:31
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
We are all sinners but God cannot ordain that which is sin.
You are not to sit in judgement either. That is between PP and her God. You don't get to decide for everyone what God, if a god even exists - which many dispute, would make the law of Alabama. God is not a legislator nor a Justice. The law of this land is meant to be a compromise of all of our people, and we don't all agree. You cannot make something a crime when others believe it to be a God given right. Ironic, no?
Actually if the action violates natural law and the doctrine of the Church I have an obligation as a Catholic to oppose it. So I will, and vote accordingly.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:27
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
Good thing we are not governed by the Catholic Church.
We will be if republicans get full control of the federal government.
Uh, there are more Democratic Catholics in government. It's the evangelicals you should be worried about.
Indeed. Our parish prays at every Mass during the Prayer of the Faithful for God to intercede with our government leaders so that they support policies in line with the doctrine of the Church.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:27
Subject: IVF embryos are people too
It doesn't matter what God wants when creating law..... You can do whatever you're God tells you to do in your personal life. But you do not get your legislate it to demand everyone else follows your beliefs...
It is boggers to me that we are allowing religion to seek into our political atmosphere..
. We literally thought he war over this
It is boggers to me that we are allowing religion to seek into our political atmosphere..
. We literally thought he war over this
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:25
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
We are all sinners but God cannot ordain that which is sin.
God gave us the ability to help treat infertility with IVF. An amazing gift from god and you are disrespecting the gift.
Not according to the Catholic Church. I’ll put my trust there and not in you. Although I will pray for you for your conversion.
DP: You are welcome to do that. You are not welcome to impose your personal beliefs on others who just as strongly hold opposite beliefs. Do you understand that part of our nation's founding principles?
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:24
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
We are all sinners but God cannot ordain that which is sin.
You are not to sit in judgement either. That is between PP and her God. You don't get to decide for everyone what God, if a god even exists - which many dispute, would make the law of Alabama. God is not a legislator nor a Justice. The law of this land is meant to be a compromise of all of our people, and we don't all agree. You cannot make something a crime when others believe it to be a God given right. Ironic, no?
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:23
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
We are all sinners but God cannot ordain that which is sin.
God gave us the ability to help treat infertility with IVF. An amazing gift from god and you are disrespecting the gift.
Not according to the Catholic Church. I’ll put my trust there and not in you. Although I will pray for you for your conversion.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:12
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
Good thing we are not governed by the Catholic Church.
We will be if republicans get full control of the federal government.
Uh, there are more Democratic Catholics in government. It's the evangelicals you should be worried about.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 11:09
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
We are all sinners but God cannot ordain that which is sin.
God gave us the ability to help treat infertility with IVF. An amazing gift from god and you are disrespecting the gift.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 10:58
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.
We are all sinners but God cannot ordain that which is sin.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 10:54
Subject: IVF embryos are people too
It is terrible if this treatment is denied to patients in Alabama. So cruel.
Anonymous
02/20/2024 10:43
Subject: Re:IVF embryos are people too
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I wish I could post this in the thread about Rob Reiner’s documentary on Christian Nationalism but it got locked. This is language in a real court ruling in America.
The Catholic Church strongly opposes IVF.
The Catholic Church? I lost all respect for the CC during the HIV/AIDS epidemic when they opposed condom use (because they oppose contraception except for the rhythm method) and promoted "chastity." Never mind, how they protected pedophile priests...
The twin cruelties of denying birth control and their child raping road show is why I despise the Catholic Church, add to that their worsening the HIV/AIDS crisis and their political action and they’re even worse.
I guess denying IVF is why they need to have more White babies for the pipeline or whatever the Handmaiden said.
The Church’s teaching on the immorality of IVF is based upon God ordained natural law. Chastity outside of marriage between a man and a woman has always been part of the Catechism. The Catholic Church is furthermore growing fastest in Subsaharan Africa so it has nothing to do with white babies (the Church is shrinking fastest in Western Europe and North America. The next Pope may very well be a black African.
Oh, and there’s a very special place in Hell for child raping priests.
Folks that do not believe in IVF should not get IVF treatment. Other people were given an amazing IVF treatment by their God to allow them to have a family and it does nto concern you in any way.
I have one vote just like you do. My vote is determined by my conscience formed by the doctrine of the Catholic Church.
I am catholic and I have a children conceived by IVF. God told me to do it and was right.