Anonymous
02/10/2024 08:55
Subject: Re:Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Sorry you don't like progressive politics. Hogan had 8 years as governor and the economy stopped growing under his watch. Purple Line stalled which probably didn't help. He was also very divisive at times. I don't get people who are like "Oh he's a nice moderate". GTFOOH. Very partisan. Just not as bad as Trump which is not a high standard.
Purple Line was stalled when Hogan started office. He got it going again.
He also got dedicated funding for Metro. And he got traffic improvements to 270 (added lanes) despite opposition. And he got MoCo private schools reopened during Covid after the MoCo health officer arbitrarily closed them without reviewing their reopening plans.
Meanwhile Moore (who I like) is proposing a massive budget and thereby tax increase, due to Kirwan, and will cut transpo funding. We don't need to spend billions a year on Kirwan. We can already see from DC that blindly throwing more money at schools does not improve outcomes.
Hogan will have my vote.
He killed the red line in Baltimore, he was fine with the delays of the puple line, which cost MD taxpayers $6B dollars. He pushed the stupid toll road through and that has been a waste. and the lane expansions on 270 did nothing to "solve" traffic, because there has never been a time that adding lanes "solves" traffic. The more egregious was the selected state investments that benefited his properties and the properties of his cronies across the state.
He did not push the toll road through. He tried hard, but he failed. Time ran out on him. Fortunately. The general highway widening project isn't dead (unfortunately), but HIS highway widening project is dead.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 08:53
Subject: Re:Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Sorry you don't like progressive politics. Hogan had 8 years as governor and the economy stopped growing under his watch. Purple Line stalled which probably didn't help. He was also very divisive at times. I don't get people who are like "Oh he's a nice moderate". GTFOOH. Very partisan. Just not as bad as Trump which is not a high standard.
Purple Line was stalled when Hogan started office. He got it going again.
He also got dedicated funding for Metro. And he got traffic improvements to 270 (added lanes) despite opposition. And he got MoCo private schools reopened during Covid after the MoCo health officer arbitrarily closed them without reviewing their reopening plans.
Meanwhile Moore (who I like) is proposing a massive budget and thereby tax increase, due to Kirwan, and will cut transpo funding. We don't need to spend billions a year on Kirwan. We can already see from DC that blindly throwing more money at schools does not improve outcomes.
Hogan will have my vote.
The Purple Line was stalled when Hogan started office, because of a court case. The court case was then resolved. He had nothing to do with that.
What did he do with the Purple Line? Made the project worse by cutting things that made it nicer (for example, grass tracks and art) so there would be more money for road construction, and then botched the project altogether. Thanks to Hogan, the Purple Line will cost $1.4 billion more and open several years later.
https://washingtonmonthly.com/2022/06/20/larry-hogan-purple-line-fiasco/
Anonymous
02/10/2024 08:34
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:So interesting to read some of these threads. So many people who want to break the MAGA stronghold in Republican party, yet won’t vote to see that happen.
Because he won't do anything to stop them. Once in office, he will step in line with the GOP (ie MAGA) votes. Will be break a filibuster for DC sttehood? No. Will be vote to ensure a woman's right to choose? No. Will he support sensible gun safety laws? No.
So let's get real about what supporting "independent minded" Hogan will really mean.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 08:32
Subject: Re:Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Sorry you don't like progressive politics. Hogan had 8 years as governor and the economy stopped growing under his watch. Purple Line stalled which probably didn't help. He was also very divisive at times. I don't get people who are like "Oh he's a nice moderate". GTFOOH. Very partisan. Just not as bad as Trump which is not a high standard.
Purple Line was stalled when Hogan started office. He got it going again.
He also got dedicated funding for Metro. And he got traffic improvements to 270 (added lanes) despite opposition. And he got MoCo private schools reopened during Covid after the MoCo health officer arbitrarily closed them without reviewing their reopening plans.
Meanwhile Moore (who I like) is proposing a massive budget and thereby tax increase, due to Kirwan, and will cut transpo funding. We don't need to spend billions a year on Kirwan. We can already see from DC that blindly throwing more money at schools does not improve outcomes.
Hogan will have my vote.
He killed the red line in Baltimore, he was fine with the delays of the puple line, which cost MD taxpayers $6B dollars. He pushed the stupid toll road through and that has been a waste. and the lane expansions on 270 did nothing to "solve" traffic, because there has never been a time that adding lanes "solves" traffic. The more egregious was the selected state investments that benefited his properties and the properties of his cronies across the state.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 07:55
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Honestly, as a Democratic I am happy with Trone or Hogan
Seems like we'll have a reasonable senator!
If Trone gets the nomination, I’ll vote for Trone. If AlsoBowser is the nominee, I’ll vote for Hogan.
Trone is more progressive than Alsobrooks. How does that make ANY sense?
PP doesn’t want uppity Black women in power. That how it works.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 07:51
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.
But Hogan actually spoke up against Trump. We need to break up the MAGA stranglehold on the Republicans.
It’s about who holds the majority. Look at Jeff Flake, Mitch Mc Connel, heck, even uber conservative Langford just got railroaded. A vote for Hogen is a vote for Ted Cruz to be majority leader. McConnel will be ousted from leadership too.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 07:45
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
So interesting to read some of these threads. So many people who want to break the MAGA stronghold in Republican party, yet won’t vote to see that happen.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 07:44
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:too pro-life
not viable in 2024
Also too much lining of his own pockets at public expense while in office.
I voted for him as Gov because the dem candidate supported wealth transfer from moco schools to Baltimore to help pay for their sports arenas.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 07:12
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Hogan won twice in Democratic MD as Republican
Screaming "Republican!" Or "Democrat!" is not interesting commentary.
As an Independent, I trusted him to lead MD. I do not trust him to be powerful enough to impact MAGA Senators. That's why screaming Republican matters to Independents and Democrats.
This vote is bigger than Maryland.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 06:58
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Hogan won twice in Democratic MD as Republican
Screaming "Republican!" Or "Democrat!" is not interesting commentary.
Screaming "Republican!" Or "Democrat!" is not interesting commentary.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 06:51
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.
Ditto. Except I am a lifelong unaffiliated voter. But agree there is no way I will cast a vote for e Republican— in any race— in 2024.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 06:40
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Hogan is a power hungry snake and micromanager
I still remember how he withheld funds to expand abortion care even though the general assembly had approved the funds
I remember his ridiculous obsession with controlling school start/end dates, negating local control by school boards
I remember Hogan's hissy fit that he could force schools to close in a pandemic, but he couldn't force the schools to reopen
Just say "NO"
+1
Anonymous
02/10/2024 06:38
Subject: Re:Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:
Sorry you don't like progressive politics. Hogan had 8 years as governor and the economy stopped growing under his watch. Purple Line stalled which probably didn't help. He was also very divisive at times. I don't get people who are like "Oh he's a nice moderate". GTFOOH. Very partisan. Just not as bad as Trump which is not a high standard.
Purple Line was stalled when Hogan started office. He got it going again.
He also got dedicated funding for Metro. And he got traffic improvements to 270 (added lanes) despite opposition. And he got MoCo private schools reopened during Covid after the MoCo health officer arbitrarily closed them without reviewing their reopening plans.
Meanwhile Moore (who I like) is proposing a massive budget and thereby tax increase, due to Kirwan, and will cut transpo funding. We don't need to spend billions a year on Kirwan. We can already see from DC that blindly throwing more money at schools does not improve outcomes.
Hogan will have my vote.
Anonymous
02/10/2024 06:38
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.
+1
Anonymous
02/10/2024 06:34
Subject: Hogan running for Senate
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am a lifelong democrat, and voted for Larry Hogan twice for Governor. And there is absolutely no way I will vote for him for Senate. Not because I don't like him, o0r think he would do a bad job, but because if he wins, it gives increased power to Ted Cruz, Rand Paul, Ron Johnson, Josh Hawley, and the rest of the far right brigade of the Senate. My vote will not be used to support a potential GOP Senate Majority, and that is far, far more important than my personal feelings about an individual candidate.
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Same. The sucky part is now I Jane to vote for the Dem who has the best chance of beating him rather than my preferred candidate.