Anonymous wrote:Question: for those top schools with a high proportion of TO that people keep talking about, how many of those TO kids are first gen, athletes, or otherwise hooked kids? I’m trying to figure out whether unhooked kids from the DMV really have a shot at these schools without submitting…

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Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

This is a good list to keep handy.

Except it is incorrect. Cornell is test required for all colleges for current high school class of 2026.

Anonymous wrote:Unhooked TO at Cornell.

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Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

This is a good list to keep handy.

Except it is incorrect. Cornell is test required for all colleges for current high school class of 2026.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

This is a good list to keep handy.

Except it is incorrect. Cornell is test required for all colleges for current high school class of 2026.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

This is a good list to keep handy.

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Anonymous wrote:I’m the OP. Thanks for the responses and PPs list. Any TO success at state schools? DS has average grades so we are not looking for T25 schools. Probably more in the T50-100 range.

My DS got into every state school ranked 50-100 in EA except Purdue, where he was waitlisted. TO from JR. Hardly any EC’s but works a lot, 9 APs, A/B student, great writer, not stem. Got major aid from one. Your DS will be fine!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

false. Every day another college announces it is dropping TO

This is a really small list. Not these ones.

Agree with you that every day others def are.

But these schools appear to have very different institutional priorities and have used test scores very differently.

It’s 26 schools. 10 of whom (maybe more) were TO before 2020…….
Reading this list, almost all will stay TO for next year….

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

Anonymous wrote:I’m the OP. Thanks for the responses and PPs list. Any TO success at state schools? DS has average grades so we are not looking for T25 schools. Probably more in the T50-100 range.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

false. Every day another college announces it is dropping TO

This is a really small list. Not these ones.

Agree with you that every day others def are.

But these schools appear to have very different institutional priorities and have used test scores very differently.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think they are going to start trending down...the TO success stories.

I think for the selective schools they are looking and test aware going forward. It is the bump over other similar candidates that are TO.

TO is not going away at these schools - for some, probably ever. For others for at least a year (or more)…
Hope my research is helpful to others!

UChicago (historical)
WashU (44% of admitted students TO)
Vanderbilt (47% TO of admitted students)
USC (Cali)
Cornell (certain colleges)
Claremont McKenna (Cali)
NYU
BU
UMiami (historically TO)
Northeastern
Villanova
Middlebury (close to 50%)
Wesleyan (historical)
BC
Lehigh
Pomona (Cali)
Wake (historically TO)
Tufts (40%)
Tulane (50% of the admitted students for our Class of 2027 did not submit test scores.)

Historical Test-optional schools - for more than a decade, include the University of Chicago, Brandeis University, the University of Rochester, Wake Forest University and Wesleyan University. Bates, Bowdoin, Colorado, Dickinson, Emerson and Pitzer colleges.

false. Every day another college announces it is dropping TO