Anonymous
01/28/2024 19:26
Subject: If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Interestingly Barack Obama's Irish immigrant ancestor was an Irish Protestant.
An Irish Protestant from Kenya?
Anonymous
01/28/2024 19:23
Subject: If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:At one point does it become statistically meaningless? Hypothetically let's say some white Southerner is 1/256 Swiss-German or something and 90% of their lineage is English.
Is that person an English-German-American or basically an English American. I'd say the latter.
Ameri-mutt
Anonymous
01/28/2024 19:05
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
Not PP, but it’s not a “tiny island”. Have you ever been to a tiny island?
It is not a big country.
The question is whether it’s a tiny island or not. It is not.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 19:03
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
I don’t really know people who do this but I do know Greeks and Italians who identify as Greek or Italian despite being born here. Poles too. And Indians. And Koreans. I don’t think this is a distinctively Irish thing and IME less common with Irish because at this point most Irish are pretty well intermarried. So I might say “my mom’s side is Irish” but I wouldn’t say I’m Irish.
+1 also some pps seem to not realize that some families maintain closer cultural and family ties with Ireland(or germany/italy/poland etc than others.) I can’t imagine caring how other people describe their family background!
Anonymous
01/28/2024 18:58
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
I don’t really know people who do this but I do know Greeks and Italians who identify as Greek or Italian despite being born here. Poles too. And Indians. And Koreans. I don’t think this is a distinctively Irish thing and IME less common with Irish because at this point most Irish are pretty well intermarried. So I might say “my mom’s side is Irish” but I wouldn’t say I’m Irish.
+100
Anonymous
01/28/2024 18:46
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
I don’t really know people who do this but I do know Greeks and Italians who identify as Greek or Italian despite being born here. Poles too. And Indians. And Koreans. I don’t think this is a distinctively Irish thing and IME less common with Irish because at this point most Irish are pretty well intermarried. So I might say “my mom’s side is Irish” but I wouldn’t say I’m Irish.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 18:34
Subject: If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
If you want to look for more official sources you can, but here’s the current take from Wikipedia on Americans:
Americans are the citizens and nationals of the United States. The United States is home to people of many racial and ethnic origins; consequently, American law does not equate nationality with race or ethnicity, but with citizenship and an oath of permanent allegiance.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Americans are the citizens and nationals of the United States. The United States is home to people of many racial and ethnic origins; consequently, American law does not equate nationality with race or ethnicity, but with citizenship and an oath of permanent allegiance.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org › wiki
Anonymous
01/28/2024 18:05
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
Are you saying an American whose great grandparents were born in Ireland and who says they are Irish is actually ethnically Irish?
African-Americans are racially different. They have African genes. I doubt they claim to be ethnically African though.
Yes, they are ethnically Irish but not by nationality. American really isn’t an ethnicity but if you’d like you could say whatever-American.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 18:00
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
Are you saying an American whose great grandparents were born in Ireland and who says they are Irish is actually ethnically Irish?
African-Americans are racially different. They have African genes. I doubt they claim to be ethnically African though.
NP. That’s…what ethnicity is.
Exactly. Race is not synonymous with ethnicity, and neither are synonymous with nationality — though some people will use the terms interchangeably so context as always is key.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 17:57
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
No, it’s understood in context when someone means __-American. You are a fool.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 17:57
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
Not PP, but it’s not a “tiny island”. Have you ever been to a tiny island?
It is not a big country.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 16:37
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
Not PP, but it’s not a “tiny island”. Have you ever been to a tiny island?
Anonymous
01/28/2024 16:33
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
This seems to be a you problem. I'm not aware of this phenomenon.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 16:31
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
These annoying people don’t claim to be “of Irish descent.” They claim to be Irish. If you don’t have a passport proving same, GTFO. I don’t know any other group that does this so emphatically. And why? It’s a tiny island with bad food and bad weather.
Anonymous
01/28/2024 16:31
Subject: Re:If you're of Irish Protestant ancestry, do you consider yourself Irish American?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Oh god, people who are hung up on their Irish ancestry are the most annoying ethnic group in America. A typical conversation with them:
Them: “I’m Irish.”
Me: “oh, cool. You don’t have an accent. When did you come over?”
Them: “I was born here.”
Me: “oh. When did your parents emigrate?”
Them: “well, actually they were born here, too.”
Me: “oh. So, your grandparents came over from Ireland?”
Them: “….no.”
Me: “ah.”
You’re an idiot. There is a difference between Irish ethnicity and nationality. I suppose you only consider Kurds as either Turks or Iraqis. The US is full of different from different ethnicities. Do you deny descendants of American slaves claims to Africa? How about Poles who retained their Polish identity when the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth was wiped off the map of Europe for 125 years?
Are you saying an American whose great grandparents were born in Ireland and who says they are Irish is actually ethnically Irish?
African-Americans are racially different. They have African genes. I doubt they claim to be ethnically African though.
NP. That’s…what ethnicity is.