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Anonymous wrote:Pro Tip: Don’t trust the education of your children to an institution that can’t manage to unlock doors on time.

Great. So stop whinging and send your kids to private.

It's a win for everyone.

I would happily go to private school if you stop taxing the $hit out of me.

VA has a very low tax rate. ??

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Our property taxes, which fund the schools, are not high.

Speak for yourself. I pay 21k in property tax a year.

Your rate is the same as everyone else’s. If you pay $21k a year your house has a proportionately high value.

Anonymous wrote:This happens quite frequently at various FCPS schools. I empathize. It’s apparently very difficult to show up somewhere on time and unlock a door.

This is correct. I lead a Saturday morning activity that meets at various fcps schools throughout the year. On any given day there's a 50% chance the school will be unlocked on time. And it's not a rare occurrence for no one to show up for several hours after we were supposed to start. The problem is lack of competent leadership from the top all the way down to the maintenance person who didn't get the memo they were supposed to work, or who said they weren't available but were scheduled anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro Tip: Don’t trust the education of your children to an institution that can’t manage to unlock doors on time.

Great. So stop whinging and send your kids to private.

It's a win for everyone.

I would happily go to private school if you stop taxing the $hit out of me.

VA has a very low tax rate. ??

+1
Our property taxes, which fund the schools, are not high.

Speak for yourself. I pay 21k in property tax a year.

I pay almost $25k and realize that I’d pay much more in an area that had high tax rates.

If you don’t want to pay taxes move to a red state. And you’ll get what you pay for.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread may be the ultimate in terms of Karens and Kens demanding to talk to the manager.

I just spit out my drink....LOLOLOL

Spit out your drink because the comment was so moronic, I take it?

Please never sign your child up for any recreational sports or activities, as you have no respect or appreciation for the effort out in by volunteers.

DP. I respect the volunteers who aren’t entitled a-holes.

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Anonymous wrote:This thread may be the ultimate in terms of Karens and Kens demanding to talk to the manager.

I just spit out my drink....LOLOLOL

Spit out your drink because the comment was so moronic, I take it?

Please never sign your child up for any recreational sports or activities, as you have no respect or appreciation for the effort out in by volunteers.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro Tip: Don’t trust the education of your children to an institution that can’t manage to unlock doors on time.

Great. So stop whinging and send your kids to private.

It's a win for everyone.

I would happily go to private school if you stop taxing the $hit out of me.

VA has a very low tax rate. ??

+1
Our property taxes, which fund the schools, are not high.

Speak for yourself. I pay 21k in property tax a year.

That's because you bought a stupid-expensive house, not because the tax rate is high.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro Tip: Don’t trust the education of your children to an institution that can’t manage to unlock doors on time.

Great. So stop whinging and send your kids to private.

It's a win for everyone.

I would happily go to private school if you stop taxing the $hit out of me.

VA has a very low tax rate. ??

+1
Our property taxes, which fund the schools, are not high.

Speak for yourself. I pay 21k in property tax a year.

Anonymous wrote:This thread may be the ultimate in terms of Karens and Kens demanding to talk to the manager.

I just spit out my drink....LOLOLOL

ETA, our org is also out the extra money we paid for the custodian *even if he doesn't show up*. There is no mechanism for a refund.

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Anonymous wrote:The custodians are paid extra on the weekend BY the community leagues who use the schools. They are paid to show up on time, unlock the door, sit around, and then lock up after the permit and go home.

Despite that, our org has recurring issues with custodians not unlocking the doors for our scheduled practices and games. If we don't show up in the first hour of permit use, the custodians lock up and go home (despite being paid for the whole day. We are supposed to get a four hour grace period per county rules, but no one is wiling to enforce it. The schools also frequently cancel community use during the week and don't tell the county, then we show up and our teams can't practice.

An hour late? I’d have given you 30mins tops and then I’m locking up and putting in for my time, and going out for lunch or a quick 9 holes. You are welcome to use the outdoor black top. Otherwise if something is important to you show up on time.

Plus if this has happened to you more than once and you failed to adjust your behavior accordingly (ie get there on time or at least before he locks up an hour after his arrival) that means you have a hard time with pattern recognition and the janitor, who is obviously a master of pattern recognition is quicker on the uptake than you, that’s all.

Oh. You don't understand the program. A group gets a permit for a set amount of time, for instance 8 am -8 pm. They aren't required to be there when the permit starts at 8 am. They have four hours to start using the space. Since gym space is so scarce, most groups begin right at the start time, but they are not required to. The groups pay whether they are using the space, or not. The custodian is being paid extra to be there on the weekend, by the group with the permit. The door is supposed to be unlocked when the permited time begins, whether or not anyone has shown up yet. If no one shows up after 4 hours, the custodian can go home and keeps the extra pay. These are regulations set out by NCS that custodians are supposed to follow.

The issue groups have is: custodians not unlocking doors when permits begin (or, at all) and custodians leaving for the day before the four hour deadline.

OK, and if they don’t show up, how is your overall life affected? Not at all.

Welll, the people who volunteer to run the leagues have to scramble and beg for more gym space--often there is no more available so the game or practice is just not rescheduled, pay the refs anyway, try and reschedule, and deal with angry parents who showed up for a game or practice but were locked out of the gym. We have a problem school that we get permits for and the weekend custodian often leaves the building and can't be found by the county off-hours supervisors. So, our org can't get into the building at the scheduled time.

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Anonymous wrote:Pro Tip: Don’t trust the education of your children to an institution that can’t manage to unlock doors on time.

Do you understand that the people who teach the kids aren’t the ones who- you know what nm

The people who manage and administer this dumpster fire are the same people who manage/administer the “teaching.”

My kid had a summer camp at Bullis and the doors were opened a couple of minutes late one day. Clearly an indication that the school is a dumpster fire incapable of providing an education

Glad you having the low standard

FCPS supposed to be excellence

Just to add to this debate. There is not a lot of gym space for community groups. I headed a local non-profit basketball league. Saturdays are game days. We stack games (as do most local orgs) from 9a until the end of our permitted hours. (Permitted hours usually start at 8a.) We pay referees to officiate games. If a custodian doesn't open on time, that game doesn't get played on that day. But we still have to pay the referees. We then have to ask for additional space from NCS to find a spot for the makeup game.

We do not use Sandburg for games, but we do serve a nearby community. It is expensive to run the basketball program (uniforms, equipment, referees, gyms, etc.). For an organization that serves low-income communities, it can be a lot when custodians do not show up or show up late on the weekends. My experience with the custodians and schools has generally been good, but the impact on a late or no-show custodian is more than "awww poor Larlo doesn't get to play his game."

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:The custodians are paid extra on the weekend BY the community leagues who use the schools. They are paid to show up on time, unlock the door, sit around, and then lock up after the permit and go home.

Despite that, our org has recurring issues with custodians not unlocking the doors for our scheduled practices and games. If we don't show up in the first hour of permit use, the custodians lock up and go home (despite being paid for the whole day. We are supposed to get a four hour grace period per county rules, but no one is wiling to enforce it. The schools also frequently cancel community use during the week and don't tell the county, then we show up and our teams can't practice.

An hour late? I’d have given you 30mins tops and then I’m locking up and putting in for my time, and going out for lunch or a quick 9 holes. You are welcome to use the outdoor black top. Otherwise if something is important to you show up on time.

Plus if this has happened to you more than once and you failed to adjust your behavior accordingly (ie get there on time or at least before he locks up an hour after his arrival) that means you have a hard time with pattern recognition and the janitor, who is obviously a master of pattern recognition is quicker on the uptake than you, that’s all.

Oh. You don't understand the program. A group gets a permit for a set amount of time, for instance 8 am -8 pm. They aren't required to be there when the permit starts at 8 am. They have four hours to start using the space. Since gym space is so scarce, most groups begin right at the start time, but they are not required to. The groups pay whether they are using the space, or not. The custodian is being paid extra to be there on the weekend, by the group with the permit. The door is supposed to be unlocked when the permited time begins, whether or not anyone has shown up yet. If no one shows up after 4 hours, the custodian can go home and keeps the extra pay. These are regulations set out by NCS that custodians are supposed to follow.

The issue groups have is: custodians not unlocking doors when permits begin (or, at all) and custodians leaving for the day before the four hour deadline.

OK, and if they don’t show up, how is your overall life affected? Not at all.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The custodians are paid extra on the weekend BY the community leagues who use the schools. They are paid to show up on time, unlock the door, sit around, and then lock up after the permit and go home.

Despite that, our org has recurring issues with custodians not unlocking the doors for our scheduled practices and games. If we don't show up in the first hour of permit use, the custodians lock up and go home (despite being paid for the whole day. We are supposed to get a four hour grace period per county rules, but no one is wiling to enforce it. The schools also frequently cancel community use during the week and don't tell the county, then we show up and our teams can't practice.

An hour late? I’d have given you 30mins tops and then I’m locking up and putting in for my time, and going out for lunch or a quick 9 holes. You are welcome to use the outdoor black top. Otherwise if something is important to you show up on time.

Plus if this has happened to you more than once and you failed to adjust your behavior accordingly (ie get there on time or at least before he locks up an hour after his arrival) that means you have a hard time with pattern recognition and the janitor, who is obviously a master of pattern recognition is quicker on the uptake than you, that’s all.

Oh. You don't understand the program. A group gets a permit for a set amount of time, for instance 8 am -8 pm. They aren't required to be there when the permit starts at 8 am. They have four hours to start using the space. Since gym space is so scarce, most groups begin right at the start time, but they are not required to. The groups pay whether they are using the space, or not. The custodian is being paid extra to be there on the weekend, by the group with the permit. The door is supposed to be unlocked when the permited time begins, whether or not anyone has shown up yet. If no one shows up after 4 hours, the custodian can go home and keeps the extra pay. These are regulations set out by NCS that custodians are supposed to follow.

The issue groups have is: custodians not unlocking doors when permits begin (or, at all) and custodians leaving for the day before the four hour deadline.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Pro Tip: Don’t trust the education of your children to an institution that can’t manage to unlock doors on time.

Great. So stop whinging and send your kids to private.

It's a win for everyone.

I would happily go to private school if you stop taxing the $hit out of me.

VA has a very low tax rate. ??

+1
Our property taxes, which fund the schools, are not high.